Tourist Visa for Fiancee + 2 parents while K1 Pending

[Kaetaa 33]

I know getting a tourist visa for a fiancee when the K1 is pending is pretty rare, but I wanted to know if our chances increase when we throw in her parents? Her parents want to meet my parents in the USA and want to apply for a tourist visa - but they don't speak English and them coming without their daughter would be a waste of time. They have jobs/obligations/house/cars etc. in their home country so I don't see why they would get rejected.

 

We will be honest with the interviewer about the pending K1 and explain that the parents want to meet the parents BEFORE the future wedding. Has anyone been in this situation? I know most long time posters on this site will say "tourist visa during K1 is impossible, move on", but I don't think that's the case - it's just more difficult.

 

She is from China, if that helps.

[payxibka 10,044]

You will never know until you try

[Kaetaa 33]

I forgot to mention that the interviews aren't exactly solo when applying for a family in China. You sit together during the interviews, but do individually get asked questions. 

[Kaetaa 33]

2 minutes ago, payxibka said:

You will never know until you try

We fully intend to try, I'm just hoping other people have been in the same situation because it is pretty stressful. My fiancee doesn't have a job at the moment and lives with her parents. She most definitely would be denied if she was applying solo.

[payxibka 10,044]

Nobody can say yes or no to the result as it is all up to the CO and how you present the information that is being requested and respond to the questions asked.

 

Are her chances improved?  possibly.... Remember however, each visa applicant must qualify on there own merits 

Edited January 6, 2018 by payxibka

[Kaetaa 33]

Yep, I know. Is there a chance the parents get approved and she doesn't? That would suck but it'd be better than all 3 getting denied because the parents will visit USA eventually.

[Boiler 43,859]

Of course, individual applications.

[Kaetaa 33]

What if my fiancee doesn't tell them about me? Just says she is going to America with her parents to travel? Would they ever find out? 

[geowrian 22,336]

59 minutes ago, Kaetaa said:

What if my fiancee doesn't tell them about me? Just says she is going to America with her parents to travel? Would they ever find out? 

Most likely. But not telling them or trying to lie or deceive them about the trip's intent will not end well at all. They can see that you have a pending petition.  They will almost certainly ask what you will be doing in the US and where you will be going, and/or if you know anybody in the US (and who they are, if so).

 

Furthermore, if the visas were somehow granted anyway, what do you think would happen at K-1 interview when they see that she never even mentioned a US fiance during the previous interview (and/or that she didn't use the tourist visa for the reason stated in the interview)?

 

The penalty for material misrepresentation is a permanent (waivable) bar on any visa. Never lie to or try to deceive a CO.

It's not material misrepresentation to not disclose information unless asked, but 1) questions are likely to require disclosing the relationship and/or trip's intention, and 2) her credibility will be shot with the K-1 visa interview.

[payxibka 10,044]

3 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Most likely. But not telling them or trying to lie or deceive them about the trip's intent will not end well at all. They can see that you have a pending petition.  They will almost certainly ask what you will be doing in the US and where you will be going, and/or if you know anybody in the US (and who they are, if so).

 

Furthermore, if the visas were somehow granted anyway, what do you think would happen at K-1 interview when they see that she never even mentioned a US fiance during the previous interview (and/or that she didn't use the tourist visa for the reason stated in the interview)?

 

The penalty for material misrepresentation is a permanent (waivable) bar on any visa. Never lie to or try to deceive a CO.

It's not material misrepresentation to not disclose information unless asked, but 1) questions are likely to require disclosing the relationship and/or trip's intention, and 2) her credibility will be shot with the K-1 visa interview.

It is a believed fact that the petition can be seen.  Is this a known fact that the databases are linked?

[SusieQQQ 11,585]

57 minutes ago, payxibka said:

It is a believed fact that the petition can be seen.  Is this a known fact that the databases are linked?

Yes, I’ve seen this before personally, I applied via mail for B visas for my minor children (didn’t need to be interviewed at that age and both parents had existing unexpired visas), I got a call from the consulate to come for an interview for that application, which turned out to be because they picked up that the children's grandfather (my dad) had filed an F3 petition for me. The kids obviously weren’t even named in that petition yet but they still picked it up. This was about 7 or 8 years ago, and I’d assume if anything the databases are more rather than less efficient now.

Edited January 8, 2018 by SusieQQQ

[Unlockable 7,309]

Why even entertain the thought of lying? You don't have to volunteer the information but if asked directly she should tell the truth.

[TBoneTX 43,540]

Kaetaa, do not lie.  Ever.

[Kaetaa 33]

11 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Kaetaa, do not lie.  Ever.

I had no intention, don't worry. Was just curious.

 

Mostly it's the "if I don't bring it up, is it still considered lying?"

[Boiler 43,859]

It is on the application.