Other evidence of a bonifide marriage

[Gen_X 13]

I am going out on a limb here, but do have any money transfers (Western Union, Moneygram etc). How about greeting cards or presents mailed to each other. If so, you should only need the empty  envelopes, given they clearly show the sender/recipient  and the post marks by the postal/courier services. How about flowers you may have sent each other? A receipt from the flower shop/website showing purchaser/recipient names and addresses can help. Emails are also great way of showing proof of marriage.

 

 These may look feeble or far fetched ideas, but we used them successfully. My advice is simple.. the more solid your documents that establish a relationship, the more likely you won't be asked many interview questions as well as a speedy processing of the visa.

 

Of all countries, my spouse is from Pakistan.  Her interview was quick. In 15 mins she answered about 12 questions. However they were very simple and closely related to each other.

 

And was rold she w get her visa in 15 days but then n reality it waz ready in 2 days! 

I wish you all the best! 

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

16 hours ago, Journeyjbtla said:

Hi everyone,

I have read the list of evidence of bonifide marriage online. My concern is: is there any other evidence we can use aside from what is listed in the Visajourney website? We don't have joint ownership or property or tenancy or co-mingling of financial resources or children? 

 

If you dont live together ....you dont have to worry about co-mingling finances yet, but if you really want to expand your portfolio:
- Add each other to your respective life insurance, medical insurance and retirement accounts as beneficiaries.

The most important thing is face time. Since you live in Detroit, I am assuming you take either the tunnel or the bridge to Windsor.
I know they dont stamp your passport or enhance driver license so just give the USCIS log of your visits to your spouse.
Communication is also very important.
personally i take 3 screenshots(2 texts, 1 phone calls) from every month of whatap communication and paste it to word. Then i convert to a PDF format. Ready for upload when the time comes.
Pictures at family events is  REALLY important for the Dominican Republic embassy, so i have a whole photo album of My spouse and I at our baby shower and wedding parties. It cost me MUCHO DINERO but very fun and worth the trouble. 

Good luck in your journey.. from one Detroiter to the next.

[NikLR 13,234]

http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/EZGuideSpouse

 

Use this guide.  There is a big list at the end of it of evidence of a genuine relationship. 

[pushbrk 13,631]

18 hours ago, Journeyjbtla said:

Hi everyone,

I have read the list of evidence of bonifide marriage online. My concern is: is there any other evidence we can use aside from what is listed in the Visajourney website? We don't have joint ownership or property or tenancy or co-mingling of financial resources or children? 

 

It's not likely you'll need a lot of relationship evidence when the spouse is immigrating from Canada.  Concentrate on evidence of time spent together in person.  If it's a Detroit-Windsor type of thing, hard evidence might be difficult but also unnecessary.

[JFH 12,195]

The forms that are used by USCIS are multi-purpose forms used for a variety of situations and visa categories. The I-130, for example, is used for people who live overseas without their spouse (your case and my case), people who live overseas WITH their spouse (DCF and overseas filers), and people who live in the USA with their spouse (people filing adjustment of status from work and student visas). We all use the same form even though our circumstances are completely different.

 

Here's some of the things I included:

- cards addressed to both of us

- a birthday card from my favorite aunt to me that said "have a wonderful time in America with Frank for your birthday"

- photos (we didn't have photos of us with my family - in fact my family have never met my husband and we have been married almost three years. This was NOT a problem at all)

- we were each listed as the emergency contact for each other with our employers. We were able to get copies of that from our HR files

- wills. You are never to young to write a will. 

- a copy of my medical files, in particular a page where the surgeon wrote "I called her husband, Frank, and I explained the surgery to him..." and also "the patient was able to use the phone today to call her husband in the USA". 

- a copy of the police report from a minor car accident we were involved in that says "Mr H (driver) and his wife (passenger) were exiting the parking lot at xxxx (my husband's address)" It gives our full names in the report.

- my I-94 history (over 40 visits)

- a sample of messages between us - paying attention to not send 100 pages of "I love you" and kissing face emojis but messages that show we have a normal marriage except for the distance. So I showed where we discussed work, money, health, my dog, my parents, his room-mate, his father's cancer, what to buy someone for their birthday, how much it will cost to repair his car, my sister's pregnancy, what color curtains to buy for the living room, where to spend Thanksgiving, etc. 

- a hand-written receipt from a person on Craig's List that we purchased a dresser from when I was visiting. We had him write both names on the receipt. 

 

Now I'm not suggesting you should get the police involved or take yourself to hospital to get some things that I had, but think about your every day life and how you are involved in the same things. 

 

 

They are are not looking for msssive displays of affection. This is not a competition to see who spent the most money on gifts or who wrote the sappiest poems to each other. They are looking for evidence that you are with this person for love and with the intention of spending the rest of your life with them. They want evidence that you are just the same as any other couple but with a distance between you. 

[Journeyjbtla 0]

Hello Agripa,

thank you so much for the information it will help us a lot. 😊

[Journeyjbtla 0]

9 hours ago, JFH said:

The forms that are used by USCIS are multi-purpose forms used for a variety of situations and visa categories. The I-130, for example, is used for people who live overseas without their spouse (your case and my case), people who live overseas WITH their spouse (DCF and overseas filers), and people who live in the USA with their spouse (people filing adjustment of status from work and student visas). We all use the same form even though our circumstances are completely different.

 

Here's some of the things I included:

- cards addressed to both of us

- a birthday card from my favorite aunt to me that said "have a wonderful time in America with Frank for your birthday"

- photos (we didn't have photos of us with my family - in fact my family have never met my husband and we have been married almost three years. This was NOT a problem at all)

- we were each listed as the emergency contact for each other with our employers. We were able to get copies of that from our HR files

- wills. You are never to young to write a will. 

- a copy of my medical files, in particular a page where the surgeon wrote "I called her husband, Frank, and I explained the surgery to him..." and also "the patient was able to use the phone today to call her husband in the USA". 

- a copy of the police report from a minor car accident we were involved in that says "Mr H (driver) and his wife (passenger) were exiting the parking lot at xxxx (my husband's address)" It gives our full names in the report.

- my I-94 history (over 40 visits)

- a sample of messages between us - paying attention to not send 100 pages of "I love you" and kissing face emojis but messages that show we have a normal marriage except for the distance. So I showed where we discussed work, money, health, my dog, my parents, his room-mate, his father's cancer, what to buy someone for their birthday, how much it will cost to repair his car, my sister's pregnancy, what color curtains to buy for the living room, where to spend Thanksgiving, etc. 

- a hand-written receipt from a person on Craig's List that we purchased a dresser from when I was visiting. We had him write both names on the receipt. 

 

Now I'm not suggesting you should get the police involved or take yourself to hospital to get some things that I had, but think about your every day life and how you are involved in the same things. 

 

 

They are are not looking for msssive displays of affection. This is not a competition to see who spent the most money on gifts or who wrote the sappiest poems to each other. They are looking for evidence that you are with this person for love and with the intention of spending the rest of your life with them. They want evidence that you are just the same as any other couple but with a distance between you. 

Hello JFH,

im so grateful of getting help in this site. Thanks for the info.😊

[Journeyjbtla 0]

13 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

If you dont live together ....you dont have to worry about co-mingling finances yet, but if you really want to expand your portfolio:
- Add each other to your respective life insurance, medical insurance and retirement accounts as beneficiaries.

The most important thing is face time. Since you live in Detroit, I am assuming you take either the tunnel or the bridge to Windsor.
I know they dont stamp your passport or enhance driver license so just give the USCIS log of your visits to your spouse.
Communication is also very important.
personally i take 3 screenshots(2 texts, 1 phone calls) from every month of whatap communication and paste it to word. Then i convert to a PDF format. Ready for upload when the time comes.
Pictures at family events is  REALLY important for the Dominican Republic embassy, so i have a whole photo album of My spouse and I at our baby shower and wedding parties. It cost me MUCHO DINERO but very fun and worth the trouble. 

Good luck in your journey.. from one Detroiter to the next.

Hello Keith and Arileidi, 

that info is a massive help!😊

[Journeyjbtla 0]

11 hours ago, pushbrk said:

It's not likely you'll need a lot of relationship evidence when the spouse is immigrating from Canada.  Concentrate on evidence of time spent together in person.  If it's a Detroit-Windsor type of thing, hard evidence might be difficult but also unnecessary.

Hello pushbrk,

i see! Thanks!

[Journeyjbtla 0]

11 hours ago, NikLR said:

http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/EZGuideSpouse

 

Use this guide.  There is a big list at the end of it of evidence of a genuine relationship. 

Thanks NikLR

[Journeyjbtla 0]

14 hours ago, aghaaz0719 said:

I am going out on a limb here, but do have any money transfers (Western Union, Moneygram etc). How about greeting cards or presents mailed to each other. If so, you should only need the empty  envelopes, given they clearly show the sender/recipient  and the post marks by the postal/courier services. How about flowers you may have sent each other? A receipt from the flower shop/website showing purchaser/recipient names and addresses can help. Emails are also great way of showing proof of marriage.

 

 These may look feeble or far fetched ideas, but we used them successfully. My advice is simple.. the more solid your documents that establish a relationship, the more likely you won't be asked many interview questions as well as a speedy processing of the visa.

 

Of all countries, my spouse is from Pakistan.  Her interview was quick. In 15 mins she answered about 12 questions. However they were very simple and closely related to each other.

 

And was rold she w get her visa in 15 days but then n reality it waz ready in 2 days! 

I wish you all the best! 

Thanks a lot aghaazo719. More power to you and your wife.😚

[Journeyjbtla 0]

16 hours ago, bakphx1@aol.com said:

If you're not married, you can't be expected to have much. 

 

They only asked for photos in the interview (ours and everyone's we overheard). 

 

Passport stamps, if they do that each trip. A copy of that page will show that. Any receipts of travel to see each other. 

 

Bank statements (fiancé's)  with cash withdrawals or receipts of purchases in your city. 

 

Statements from people you know that have interacted with you as a couple. 

 

Emails/chats/texts.  As mentioned above, tons won't be looked at.  I spent a lot of money on printing and photocopying for no reason. 

 

 

 

 

-bakphx1aolcom thank you it's a big help.

[pushbrk 13,631]

15 hours ago, aghaaz0719 said:

I am going out on a limb here, but do have any money transfers (Western Union, Moneygram etc). How about greeting cards or presents mailed to each other. If so, you should only need the empty  envelopes, given they clearly show the sender/recipient  and the post marks by the postal/courier services. How about flowers you may have sent each other? A receipt from the flower shop/website showing purchaser/recipient names and addresses can help. Emails are also great way of showing proof of marriage.

 

 

Canada is not Pakistan.  In most cases, I would advise against using money transfers as relationship evidence, no matter which direction they are going.  That's not what they mean by co-mingling of finances.  Scammers also have money going one way or the other.  So, money transfers are as likely to give the impression the US Citizen is being scammed for money, or if in the other direction, that the foreigner is bribing the US Citizen as part of a fake marriage for immigration fraud.

 

If you have never lived in the same country together as a married couple, nobody expects you to have evidence of co-mingling of finances.

 

In addition, nobody is asking for, nor is it possible to provide "proof".  It's evidence.  The marriage certificate is evidence you are married.  The other evidence (again not proof) is of a genuine relationship, not simply that you are married.

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