25 House Democrats are trying to remove Trump from office under the 25th Amendment

[Dashinka 25,885]

2 minutes ago, ccneat said:

We know that impeachment is not in cards until Republicans collectively decide the down side of Trump outweighs the upside.

 

Are the tweets and outbursts "strategic" ?

I think that goes to far because Trump does not think strategic but though it be madness , there is a method to it.  When we are talking about bloody faces and body slams some folks are distracted from repeal and replace running off the rails.  

 

But you have to ask: is this behaviour normal? Adult? Presidential? Edifying? Representative of my values? Portraying my country as a leader who projects strength?  Mentally stable?

 

No. His petty childlike arguments make my country, that i love, look foolish and weak for putting  up with a leader that has more in common with a 2nd world dictator ; narcissist, selfish, greedy, cronyism, paranoid.

And you know this how?  Armchair psychology?  

 

 

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Enough with the "armchair psychology". Everyone can see it. When are you guys going to realize that the rest of the world sees him as a joke? They don't respect him. They see him as a joke and a threat to human rights and the planet. When are you guys going to wake up and see reality? And your only argument in this is "armchair psychology". Try something new. It's starting to become a hamster in a wheel situation. 

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24 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

And you know this how?  Armchair psychology?  

 

 

I am not making a clinical evaluation, I am not qualified to do that.  I am making an assessment based on comparing the words and behaviors of the President to my own values.  If someone pointed out I was doing or saying these things, I would say woh, I need to make some corrections  

Edited July 3, 2017 by ccneat

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14 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

Enough with the "armchair psychology". Everyone can see it. When are you guys going to realize that the rest of the world sees him as a joke? They don't respect him. They see him as a joke and a threat to human rights and the planet. When are you guys going to wake up and see reality? And your only argument in this is "armchair psychology". Try something new. It's starting to become a hamster in a wheel situation. 

Actually he is quite popular in Sunni Muslim nations.  They like the projection of strength.   Funny eh?

[CaliCat 3,957]

1 minute ago, ccneat said:

Actually he is quite popular in Sunni Muslim nations.  They like the projection of strength.   Funny eh?

 

And the third world too. He has friends in third world countries. The guy's a winner.

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Just now, CaliCat said:

 

And the third world too. He has friends in third world countries. The guy's a winner.

Maybe with the leaders..do you think that in India and African the common man looks up to Trump?

[CaliCat 3,957]

3 minutes ago, ccneat said:

Maybe with the leaders..do you think that in India and African the common man looks up to Trump?

 

I think the only time the common man looks up to Trump is when they do on anti-American demonstrations, and burn flags and effigies. 

 

Except for Kenya of course, because that's Obama's birthplace, and evil Muslims, because that's Obama's religion, in which case they just hate Trump, and love Obama, Hillary and Bernie. 

Edited July 3, 2017 by CaliCat

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3 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Have you read how the media has attacked him and his family including his 11 year old son?  Would we have tolerated the same treatment of Obama's daughters?

That would be Racist.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

15 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Having a free press does not mean they should not be held accountable and questioned even by elected officials.  The left wing press is full of bullies and so far have not been questioned.  I don't remember Trump ever saying the government needs to control the media.  This whole blow up is over a couple of serial cheaters that somehow have a show on cable news, they lack credibility as much as anyone else in the media.

Trump said the press is the enemy of the people. That is straight up dictator style to start reigning in the free press.
What do you mean by the press should be "questioned, held accountable, questioned by officials " ? Putin style ?
If that would happen then they wouldn't be free would they ?
Trump has several means to confront the press with a discussion to address anything he thinks needs addressing.
He can't talk right, can't articulate, can't focus, so all he can do is throw violent fits.
 

 

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

15 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

The press attacks would not stop even if Trump completely gave up tweeting.  The strategy of the Left and their press allies appears to be very clear in the narratives they are pushing.  While I might agree that twitter is a complete waste of time, and honestly, I don't follow it, but it is one way to get your message out and call out the biased media.

Maybe they would and maybe they wouldn't. I bet if he has laser sharp focus on policy then that would be reflected by the media.
If he doesn't tweet nonsense then the press can't report it. It is that easy. What would the press attack him on if  he does not give them fodder.
His tweets are not a wise method to call out biased media, they are a method to self destruct and get him laughed at.
A president has means to address the press point by point. Since he has issues with articulating these points all he can do is tweet like a
bird that lost it's feathers. He squawks on his perch.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

11 hours ago, CaliCat said:

Oh, snap.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/05/04/trump-malignant-narcissistic-disorder-psychiatry-column/101243584/

 

If you take President Trump’s words literally, you have no choice but to conclude that he is psychotic. A delusion is “a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact.” Despite all evidence to the contrary, Trump asserts that his New York office was bugged by President Obama, and that his inauguration had the biggest crowd size in history. Before the election, Right Wing Watch published a list of 58 conspiracies proclaimed by Trump.

Is it all for effect, to rile up his base, deflect blame and distract from his shortcomings, or does Trump really believe the insane things he says? It’s often hard to know, because as Harvard psychoanalyst Lance Dodes put it, Trump tells two kinds of lies: the ones he tells others to scam them, and those he tells himself. “He lies because of his sociopathic tendencies," Dodes said. "There's also the kind of lying he has that is in a way more serious, that he has a loose grip on reality." Is he crazy like a fox or just plain crazy? Not a question we want to be asking about our president.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-dangerous-mental-illness-yale-psychiatrist-conference-us-president-unfit-james-gartner-a7694316.html

 

Donald Trump has a “dangerous mental illness” and is not fit to lead the US, a group of psychiatrists has warned during a conference at Yale University.

Mental health experts claimed the President was “paranoid and delusional”, and said it was their “ethical responsibility” to warn the American public about the “dangers” Mr Trump’s psychological state poses to the country.

Speaking at the conference at Yale’s School of Medicine on Thursday, one of the mental health professionals, Dr John Gartner, a practising psychotherapist who advised psychiatric residents at Johns Hopkins University Medical School until 2015, said: “We have an ethical responsibility to warn the public about Donald Trump's dangerous mental illness.”

 

 

Exactly  !

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1 hour ago, Unidentified said:

Enough with the "armchair psychology". Everyone can see it. When are you guys going to realize that the rest of the world sees him as a joke? They don't respect him. They see him as a joke and a threat to human rights and the planet. When are you guys going to wake up and see reality? And your only argument in this is "armchair psychology". Try something new. It's starting to become a hamster in a wheel situation. 

You do realize everyone has different points of views.  As to other leaders that supposedly don't respect him, there is one to the north that does.  It might be hard to get a mental commitment 25th Amendment discharge against Trump with a leader as respected as Trudeau showing that he is of sound mind.

 

When the media starts actually criticizing policy and not conducting personal atacks and agenda driven narratives, maybe they will be listened to.  Beyond that, as you said in your earlier replies, your diagnosis is nothing by armchair psychology.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/24/trudeau-trump-does-listen-nafta-will-remain.html

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2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

You do realize everyone has different points of views.  As to other leaders that supposedly don't respect him, there is one to the north that does.  It might be hard to get a mental commitment 25th Amendment discharge against Trump with a leader as respected as Trudeau showing that he is of sound mind.

 

When the media starts actually criticizing policy and not conducting personal atacks and agenda driven narratives, maybe they will be listened to.  Beyond that, as you said in your earlier replies, your diagnosis is nothing by armchair psychology.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/24/trudeau-trump-does-listen-nafta-will-remain.html

And the wheel spun again. 

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3 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

Maybe they would and maybe they wouldn't. I bet if he has laser sharp focus on policy then that would be reflected by the media.
If he doesn't tweet nonsense then the press can't report it. It is that easy. What would the press attack him on if  he does not give them fodder.
His tweets are not a wise method to call out biased media, they are a method to self destruct and get him laughed at.
A president has means to address the press point by point. Since he has issues with articulating these points all he can do is tweet like a
bird that lost it's feathers. He squawks on his perch.

Maybe while the media is in a twist over this dust up with Plastic Mika and Idiot Joe, he and his administration has been focusing on policy, but how would we know.  Heck, the media spent sooooo much time covering the latest media attack that they barely mentioned the passing of two fairly significant bills in the House.  This is just the latest attempt by the media to force Trump out as they did all during the campaign.  Which of those wee successful?

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

4 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Have you read how the media has attacked him and his family including his 11 year old son?  Would we have tolerated the same treatment of Obama's daughters?

Obama's kids were attacked as well. I said before I find it disgusting to attack any children of any president. That happened once or twice for Obama and for Trump

and was the end of it for both because of the great outcry and rightly so. Let me emphasize, it was NOT tolerated.
Just like Trumps offensive tweeting against bloody women is not tolerated. Period.