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N-400 Support Documents - Is it really straightforward or is it like ROC?

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Hi All, 

 

We are getting ready to file N-400 for myself in June and we wanted to get a head start. I was going through the N-400 guides here and the required support documents seem SO much simpler than AOS/ROS stage? Since it states 'or' on the requirements, does that mean I can just submit our tax return transcripts for the past 3 years and we should be good? Or do we have to be overkill again and literally send every bank statements for each month for the past 3 years resulting to a really thick and heavy application package? Plus more proof such as leases, insurance info, Costco membership, etc. 

 

What support documents did you guys submit? Please advise. 

 

Thank you!

 

4. Documents referring to you and your spouse:

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to_post_off.gif Internal Revenue Service (IRS)-certified copies of the income tax forms that you both filed for the past three years, or
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An IRS tax return transcript for the last three years.

 

 

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6/12/2016 - Eligible for Removal of Conditions

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ROC

Spoiler

 

6/20/2016 (Day 0) - ROC Package (i-761) sent via USPS Priority Mail

6/21/2016 (Day 1) - ROC Package delivered at CSC Laguna Niguel & signed for by J Siplivy

6/28/2016 (Day 8) - Check cashed and NOA dated 6/21/2016 received in the mail

7/18/2016 (Day 28) - Biometrics appointment done at Santa Ana ASC

2/28/2017 (Day 254) - Spouse received call from immigration officer verifying if we still lived together at our current address. He ended the conversation by saying we our approved and no need for interview

3/3/2017 (Day 257) - Received approval letter in the mail! 

3/13/2017 (Day 267) - Online status updated - new card being produced

3/16/2017 (Day 270) - Online status updated - new card was mailed to me

3/20/2017 (Day 274) - 10 year green card on hand!! 

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6/12/2017 - Eligible for Citizenship

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N-400

6/13/2017 - N-400 package sent via USPS Priority Mail Express

6/16/2017 - N-400 fee cashed

6/19/2017 - NOA date - Priority date 6/15/17

6/30/2017 - Received biometrics appointment letter in the mail for 7/12/17

7/5/2017 - Walked in Tustin ASC for biometrics 

8/10/2017 - Case is in line for interview

1/22/2018 - N-400 interview date scheduled 

1/26/2018 - Received N-400 interview letter in the mail! Interview scheduled on Feb. 28 

2/28/2018 - Naturalization interview - recommended for approval! :)

3/20/2018 - Oath taking ceremony :dance:

 

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You could check my timeline what I submitted. Because of that "or" clause just the 3 years of tax transcripts suffices the evidence requirement and a lot of people followed that path successfully. However, I recommend sending little more than that just in case. Don't overkill it but just include few more different types of evidences. Let the officer review your evidences ahead of time and hopefully he/she won't question further the bona-fideness of your marriage at the interview.

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3 hours ago, hellostranger57 said:

Hi All, 

 

We are getting ready to file N-400 for myself in June and we wanted to get a head start. I was going through the N-400 guides here and the required support documents seem SO much simpler than AOS/ROS stage? Since it states 'or' on the requirements, does that mean I can just submit our tax return transcripts for the past 3 years and we should be good? Or do we have to be overkill again and literally send every bank statements for each month for the past 3 years resulting to a really thick and heavy application package? Plus more proof such as leases, insurance info, Costco membership, etc. 

 

What support documents did you guys submit? Please advise. 

 

Thank you!

 

4. Documents referring to you and your spouse:

to_post_off.gif Tax returns, bank accounts, leases, mortgages, or birth certificates of children, or
to_post_off.gif Internal Revenue Service (IRS)-certified copies of the income tax forms that you both filed for the past three years, or
to_post_off.gif

An IRS tax return transcript for the last three years.

 

 

When you apply based on the 3 year rule your burden of proof is to show that you and the spouse have been in a bona fide marriage for the past 3 years.

So yes - if you do apply based on the 3 year rule, you have to build a similar package to the ROC with evidence of financial joint responsibilities ( taxes, bank, 401K, health insurance, same residence etc) and joint social life.

 

Applying at 3 year is considered a privilege as you are saving 2 years and as such the review is much more thorough than if you just apply at 5 years based on residency - also expect questioning on the marriage, similar to AOS / ROC.

 

at the 5 yr  is when the package gets very simple, basically copy of greencard, N-400 form, copy of any divorce document / marriage certificate and tax transcripts....because of that a lot of folks, myself included have waited past the 5 year mark ....


  • sending I130 05/16/2007
  • cheque is cashed on 06/11/2007
  • NOA1 in mail 06/13/2007 (who said 13 is badluck )
  • 07/30/2007 After no touches and no other signs we just got an email with the APPROVAL of I130....Thank God !....now what ?

  • 08/07/2007 Case received by NVC and case number assigned :))

  • 08/13/2007 DS3032 and AOS bill were generated

  • 08/14/2007 Emailed choice of agent ...i'm so curious when they will accept it...hopefully soon

  • 08/21/2007 DS3032 and AOS fee bill arive in mail

  • 08/27/2007 paid AOS fee bill
  • 8/28/2007 DS3032 choice of agent accepted
  • 9/3/2007 IV fee bill generated

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Hi All! Follow up question since I'm preparing my N-400 packet currently. Should I include bank and credit card statements for every month for the past 3 years? Or should I just print out one statement every quarter for the past 3 years? Or something to lessen the volume of our package. What would be ideal?

 

Thank you!


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6/12/2016 - Eligible for Removal of Conditions

----

ROC

Spoiler

 

6/20/2016 (Day 0) - ROC Package (i-761) sent via USPS Priority Mail

6/21/2016 (Day 1) - ROC Package delivered at CSC Laguna Niguel & signed for by J Siplivy

6/28/2016 (Day 8) - Check cashed and NOA dated 6/21/2016 received in the mail

7/18/2016 (Day 28) - Biometrics appointment done at Santa Ana ASC

2/28/2017 (Day 254) - Spouse received call from immigration officer verifying if we still lived together at our current address. He ended the conversation by saying we our approved and no need for interview

3/3/2017 (Day 257) - Received approval letter in the mail! 

3/13/2017 (Day 267) - Online status updated - new card being produced

3/16/2017 (Day 270) - Online status updated - new card was mailed to me

3/20/2017 (Day 274) - 10 year green card on hand!! 

----

 

6/12/2017 - Eligible for Citizenship

----

N-400

6/13/2017 - N-400 package sent via USPS Priority Mail Express

6/16/2017 - N-400 fee cashed

6/19/2017 - NOA date - Priority date 6/15/17

6/30/2017 - Received biometrics appointment letter in the mail for 7/12/17

7/5/2017 - Walked in Tustin ASC for biometrics 

8/10/2017 - Case is in line for interview

1/22/2018 - N-400 interview date scheduled 

1/26/2018 - Received N-400 interview letter in the mail! Interview scheduled on Feb. 28 

2/28/2018 - Naturalization interview - recommended for approval! :)

3/20/2018 - Oath taking ceremony :dance:

 

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Anyone? :mellow:


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6/12/2016 - Eligible for Removal of Conditions

----

ROC

Spoiler

 

6/20/2016 (Day 0) - ROC Package (i-761) sent via USPS Priority Mail

6/21/2016 (Day 1) - ROC Package delivered at CSC Laguna Niguel & signed for by J Siplivy

6/28/2016 (Day 8) - Check cashed and NOA dated 6/21/2016 received in the mail

7/18/2016 (Day 28) - Biometrics appointment done at Santa Ana ASC

2/28/2017 (Day 254) - Spouse received call from immigration officer verifying if we still lived together at our current address. He ended the conversation by saying we our approved and no need for interview

3/3/2017 (Day 257) - Received approval letter in the mail! 

3/13/2017 (Day 267) - Online status updated - new card being produced

3/16/2017 (Day 270) - Online status updated - new card was mailed to me

3/20/2017 (Day 274) - 10 year green card on hand!! 

----

 

6/12/2017 - Eligible for Citizenship

----

N-400

6/13/2017 - N-400 package sent via USPS Priority Mail Express

6/16/2017 - N-400 fee cashed

6/19/2017 - NOA date - Priority date 6/15/17

6/30/2017 - Received biometrics appointment letter in the mail for 7/12/17

7/5/2017 - Walked in Tustin ASC for biometrics 

8/10/2017 - Case is in line for interview

1/22/2018 - N-400 interview date scheduled 

1/26/2018 - Received N-400 interview letter in the mail! Interview scheduled on Feb. 28 

2/28/2018 - Naturalization interview - recommended for approval! :)

3/20/2018 - Oath taking ceremony :dance:

 

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On 6/3/2017 at 2:21 AM, hellostranger57 said:

Hi All! Follow up question since I'm preparing my N-400 packet currently. Should I include bank and credit card statements for every month for the past 3 years? Or should I just print out one statement every quarter for the past 3 years? Or something to lessen the volume of our package. What would be ideal?

 

Thank you!

I think you're over thinking it for the application packet.  Take a look at the instructions PDF on the USCIS, page 10 - 11 talks about what you should send in the packet VS what to bring to an interview.  I don't think you need to submit any bank or credit card statements based on their instructions.  I can't comment on the other details as I don't know the specifics to your application and circumstances.

 


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Our journey:

11th October 2012: APPROVED!

24th February 2012: Biometrics appointment

8th February 2012: Touch

24th January 2012: Biometrics NOA date (received 30th)

19th January 2012: Check cashed by VSC

17th January 2012: NOA date (received 20th)

14th January 2012: ROC delivered via USPS to VSC

13th January 2012: Filed for ROC

Earliest date to remove conditions: Friday, December 2, 2011

9th March 2010: GC in hand

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I actually just posted my husband's interview experience (he passed! waiting on Oath Ceremony letter), but wanted to comment. 

 

To show joint financials, we submitted with N-400 application: 

  • Copies of tax returns for last 3 years (married, filing jointly)
  • An "Account Balance Summary" from Chase Bank that just shows my husband and I are on the same joint account
  • Copies of our benefits summary pages showing him on my health insurance as a dependent and him as a beneficiary for life insurance. We had copies of all of these (hard copies and then scanned and saved on our computer) from all of the past applications we had to submit, so it was easy to do this. We just included a more recent print-out of our latest health benefits to show they were still active. 
  • Copy of Car Title showing we both own the car 

We didn't have any issues with not submitting more than the above.

 

For the I-751, Lifting of Conditions, we submitted pages and pages of credit card statements, bank statements, etc. showing joint financials, but I didn't include it for N-400....

 

Obviously, if you have any doubts or you've had any issues, always submit more than less!  

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