Chaffetz: Americans may need to choose between iPhones and healthcare

[Merle 458]

How much is a smart phone plan a month? Just wondering because it isn't a necessity either. Some people seem to hate paying for things that arent fun, health insurnce is just one of them. If you can afford to buy weed, smokes, an xbox with an xbox live account, and 26" wheels for your car then you shouldn't be expecting any "subsidies" for your healthcare.

[Dakine10 5,452]

8 hours ago, cyberfx1024 said:

Sorry but my priorities are good to go that's why I voted him and not Killary. He at least has a majority of the priorities that he is dealing with in accordance with a majority of what Americans want. Killary would have pandered and let her foundation donors dictate her priorities to her. 

 

     No he doesn't. You know the majority of Americans did not support Trump. The majority of voting Americans didn't even vote for him. Stop lying!

Edited March 8, 2017 by Dakine10

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15 minutes ago, Merle said:

How much is a smart phone plan a month? Just wondering because it isn't a necessity either. Some people seem to hate paying for things that arent fun, health insurnce is just one of them. If you can afford to buy weed, smokes, an xbox with an xbox live account, and 26" wheels for your car then you shouldn't be expecting any "subsidies" for your healthcare.

Amen. On another note. I was talking to a co  worker today. He is paying close to 1k per month for day care. Holy h e double toothpicks. How do single parents afford to work 

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15 minutes ago, Merle said:

How much is a smart phone plan a month? Just wondering because it isn't a necessity either. Some people seem to hate paying for things that arent fun, health insurnce is just one of them. If you can afford to buy weed, smokes, an xbox with an xbox live account, and 26" wheels for your car then you shouldn't be expecting any "subsidies" for your healthcare.

Your comment would be valid if the options were affordable.

 

I do not smoke, like the odd beer, but the price of a few beers a month vs $1,000 whatever for Health Insurance is hardly comparable.

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1 minute ago, Dakine10 said:

 

     No he doesn't. You know the majority of Americans did not support Trump. The majority of voting Americans didn't even vote for him. Stop lying!

How many supported Obama?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 minute ago, Dakine10 said:

 

     No he doesn't. You know the majority of Americans did not support Trump. The majority of voting Americans didn't even vote for him. Stop lying!

But a vast majority of states did didn't they? 

[Dakine10 5,452]

Just now, Boiler said:

How many supported Obama?

  The majority of voters supported Obama in both elections. 

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2 minutes ago, Dakine10 said:

  The majority of voters supported Obama in both elections. 

The most number of votes Obama got was just under 70 million, population of the US is over 300 million.

[Dakine10 5,452]

1 minute ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

But a vast majority of states did didn't they? 

  But a vast majority of Americans didn't, did they?

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Just now, Boiler said:

The most number of votes Obama got was just under 70 million, population of the US is over 300 million.

  Which has nothing to do with what I said. Read again - the majority of voters supported Obama in both elections. By a large margin I would add. 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

2 hours ago, spookyturtle said:

Move. 

That's what I have been trying to do, but I have to have something before I just move back to my home state. I am the sole bread winner in my family of 6, yes 4 kids, my wife and I. I have something lined up just need to wait on my clearance to come back before I move and start that job. 

[yuna628 9,829]

It's all a silly argument really. $1000 per month for health insurance is not affordable. It doesn't matter if you're dirt poor or middle class. The cost of paying for a phone per month isn't $1,000. My husband has a nice go-phone/smart phone for a simple monthly fee and most basic phones are like that. Nor is Xboxlive which is $59 per YEAR. There's lots of things here and there that are considered 'fun' or 'optional' that people pay for per month that does not = $1,000. If you're poor you are not buying iphones, xboxlive subscriptions, cable, or any of it nor can you afford health insurance. If health insurance was $1,000 per year it'd be a different story entirely. Right now the average healthy non-smoking person are all paying out far more than we are typically ever using except for the times we need surgery, critical care, or pregnancy. Health insurance doesn't have to be a fun thing to be affordable and sensible. People aren't buying health insurance because they are spending it on novelty items. They are choosing to have running water and electricity, car insurance, childcare, and food - they simply cannot afford health insurance. This measure solves absolutely nothing. It's a joke.

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6 minutes ago, Dakine10 said:

  Which has nothing to do with what I said. Read again - the majority of voters supported Obama in both elections. By a large margin I would add. 

I read what you said, you are wrong.

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1 minute ago, yuna628 said:

It's all a silly argument really. $1000 per month for health insurance is not affordable. It doesn't matter if you're dirt poor or middle class. The cost of paying for a phone per month isn't $1,000. My husband has a nice go-phone/smart phone for a simple monthly fee and most basic phones are like that. Nor is Xboxlive which is $59 per YEAR. There's lots of things here and there that are considered 'fun' or 'optional' that people pay for per month that does not = $1,000. If you're poor you are not buying iphones, xboxlive subscriptions, cable, or any of it nor can you afford health insurance. If health insurance was $1,000 per year it'd be a different story entirely. Right now the average healthy non-smoking person are all paying out far more than we are typically ever using except for the times we need surgery, critical care, or pregnancy. Health insurance doesn't have to be a fun thing to be affordable and sensible. People aren't buying health insurance because they are spending it on novelty items. They are choosing to have running water and electricity, car insurance, childcare, and food - they simply cannot afford health insurance. This measure solves absolutely nothing. It's a joke.

Put it in context for many Health Insurance is more than their Mortgage.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

1 hour ago, CaliCat said:

 

Consider moving to another state. I know I would.

Trust me I am more than considering it I am actively pursuing it. But I am a federal employee so it's alittle hard right now.