Carson equates slaves to immigrants, social media blasts comment

[CaliCat 3,957]

4 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

I thought any criticism of a POC was because of the color of their skin, or is this just if the POC is 'progressive'?

 

POC? Is that the new N word?

[CaliCat 3,957]

2 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Then where was all this manufactured outrage when President Obama said essentially the same thing?

 

http://thefederalist.com/2017/03/07/11-times-barack-obama-compared-slaves-to-immigrants/

 

If you consider both to be equivalent, I can promise you, you need to take ESL classes immediately.

[Dashinka 25,885]

6 hours ago, CaliCat said:

 

If you consider both to be equivalent, I can promise you, you need to take ESL classes immediately.

Interesting, someone claiming to understand English cannot comprehend it.  So did President Obama equate slaves brought here in slave ships as immigrants with dreams?  Maybe you need to take the ESL class.

 

 

5. At a DNC Event in Harlem, March 29, 2011

Then-President Obama said:

And so what we wanted to do was adapt to the times, adapt to the 21st century, but also remind ourselves that there are some old-fashioned, timeworn values; that whether your forebears landed at Ellis Island or they came here on a slave ship or they crossed the Rio Grande, or however they got here, they typically had a commitment to hard work and a commitment to community and a commitment to family and a willingness to dream big dreams, and a patriotism that was not rooted in ethnicity but was rooted in a creed and a set of ideals and a belief that in America anything was possible.

Edited March 8, 2017 by Bill & Katya

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

12 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Interesting, someone claiming to understand English cannot comprehend it.  So did President Obama equate slaves brought here in slave ships as immigrants with dreams?  Maybe you need to take the ESL class.

 

 

5. At a DNC Event in Harlem, March 29, 2011

Then-President Obama said:

And so what we wanted to do was adapt to the times, adapt to the 21st century, but also remind ourselves that there are some old-fashioned, timeworn values; that whether your forebears landed at Ellis Island or they came here on a slave ship or they crossed the Rio Grande, or however they got here, they typically had a commitment to hard work and a commitment to community and a commitment to family and a willingness to dream big dreams, and a patriotism that was not rooted in ethnicity but was rooted in a creed and a set of ideals and a belief that in America anything was possible.

Oops lol  I missed all the lather when Obama said basically the same thing. Of course any criticism would have been racist 

Edited March 8, 2017 by Nature Boy Flair

[smilesammich 10,727]

13 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Interesting, someone claiming to understand English cannot comprehend it.  So did President Obama equate slaves brought here in slave ships as immigrants with dreams?  Maybe you need to take the ESL class.

 

 

5. At a DNC Event in Harlem, March 29, 2011

Then-President Obama said:

And so what we wanted to do was adapt to the times, adapt to the 21st century, but also remind ourselves that there are some old-fashioned, timeworn values; that whether your forebears landed at Ellis Island or they came here on a slave ship or they crossed the Rio Grande, or however they got here, they typically had a commitment to hard work and a commitment to community and a commitment to family and a willingness to dream big dreams, and a patriotism that was not rooted in ethnicity but was rooted in a creed and a set of ideals and a belief that in America anything was possible.

this is not at all similar to what carson said. obama is listing ways our ancestors got here. if he had said 'immigrated here on a slave ship' then you'd be on to something.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Sounds like Carson may be guilty of Plagiarism   if anything 

[CaliCat 3,957]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Interesting, someone claiming to understand English cannot comprehend it.  So did President Obama equate slaves brought here in slave ships as immigrants with dreams?  Maybe you need to take the ESL class.

 

 

5. At a DNC Event in Harlem, March 29, 2011

Then-President Obama said:

And so what we wanted to do was adapt to the times, adapt to the 21st century, but also remind ourselves that there are some old-fashioned, timeworn values; that whether your forebears landed at Ellis Island or they came here on a slave ship or they crossed the Rio Grande, or however they got here, they typically had a commitment to hard work and a commitment to community and a commitment to family and a willingness to dream big dreams, and a patriotism that was not rooted in ethnicity but was rooted in a creed and a set of ideals and a belief that in America anything was possible.

 

No, president Obama did not equate immigrants to slaves. Carson, unequivocally did. I could sentence diagram what both men said, and provide you with an exhaustive exegesis of their words, but I am sure that would be time I could put to better employ by painting a wall and watching it dry.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

5 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Sounds like Carson may be guilty of Plagiarism   if anything 

First Melania, now Carson....can't these TrumpFolk turn in original work?

[CaliCat 3,957]

And of course, un-ringing that bell will be another cluster...

 

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/ben-carson-immigrants-slaves-235771

 

 

Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson, under fire for referring to American slaves as "immigrants," insisted his remarks were misinterpreted, calling the two experiences “entirely different.”

But his words to HUD employees on Monday were nearly identical to those he has used over the past two decades.

In his 2000 book, “The Big Picture,” Carson quoted a 1997 speech he gave at a United Way conference in Alabama, in which he said immigrants came to America “not for themselves, but so that their sons and daughters, their grandsons and granddaughters, might have an opportunity for success in this land.”

“Hundreds of years before that, other immigrants came here in the bottom of slave ships,” he quoted himself as saying. “They worked even harder for longer hours for even less. They too had a dream. That one day their great-grandchildren could pursue the dream of freedom and happiness in this land.”

[smilesammich 10,727]

8 minutes ago, ccneat said:

First Melania, now Carson....can't these TrumpFolk turn in original work?

about that..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/03/06/the-white-house-was-on-the-same-page-as-exxonmobil-monday-literally/?utm_term=.c158b843f875

[CaliCat 3,957]

10 minutes ago, ccneat said:

First Melania, now Carson....can't these TrumpFolk turn in original work?

 

In an alternate facts reality, that is possible!

[CaliCat 3,957]

6 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

about that..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/03/06/the-white-house-was-on-the-same-page-as-exxonmobil-monday-literally/?utm_term=.c158b843f875

 

Nah. I'm sure you're wrong. I'm sure you're having trouble understanding what they are saying. And I'm sure Obama used the same prepositions and words in the document.

 

This too, will be blamed on Obama. LOL

Edited March 8, 2017 by CaliCat

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Ben Carson: Look up definition of immigrant

I think maybe Dr. Carson's issue was he thought people were smart enough to understand a word. Guess not 

 

im·mi·gra·tion

ˌiməˈɡrāSH(ə)n/

noun

 

1. the action of coming to live permanently in a foreign country.

 

 

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/03/07/ben-carson-slaves-immigrants-facebook-armstrong-williams-show-sot-ctn.cnn

 

Ben Carson clarified what he meant when he likened slaves to immigrants who choose to come to the US by saying whether you come to the US voluntarily or involuntarily you are an immigrant.

[Dashinka 25,885]

12 hours ago, Dakine10 said:

   There's hypocrisy in that post. I hope you see it.

I can see it, do you see it in your's?

[Dashinka 25,885]

1 hour ago, CaliCat said:

 

Nah. I'm sure you're wrong. I'm sure you're having trouble understanding what they are saying. And I'm sure Obama used the same prepositions and words in the document.

 

This too, will be blamed on Obama. LOL

So it is not the exact same words?  If it were then everyone would be crying about Dr. Carson plagarizing President Obama.  Seems a bit of a stretch, but whatever you need to justify it.  I am not criticizing either one.