Colorado lawmaker wants to let victims of crimes committed by immigrants sue politicians in “sanctuary cities”

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A Republican state lawmaker on Monday announced a bill that would allow victims of certain crimes committed by immigrants in the country illegally to sue politicians who refuse to cooperate with federal immigration authorities.

The proposal, which has not yet been introduced, targets so-called “sanctuary cities” like Denver, Boulder and Aurora, where police and other officials have said they won’t enforce federal immigration laws.

“It’s beyond any reasonable thought as to why the Democrats, along with (Denver Mayor Michael Hancock), would continue to not only act outside the law, which they swore to uphold, but also enjoy immunity from their reckless decision to place Coloradans in danger because of the sanctuary city policies that they created and continue to implement,” Rep. Dave Williams, R-Colorado Springs, said in a news release announcing the bill.

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/01/30/crime-victims-sue-politicians-sanctuary-cities/

 

[TBoneTX 47,503]

Interesting concept.

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15 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Interesting concept.

Yes, maybe exposing lawmakers to the consequences of their actions would be a good idea.

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4 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Yes, maybe exposing lawmakers to the consequences of their actions would be a good idea.

  Isn't that called voting?

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Would they be sueing specific politicians? Wouldn't they sue the city government?

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1 minute ago, Dakine10 said:

  Isn't that called voting?

No no, it is better to lock up anyone who disagrees with you. That is the secret to a strong "democracy". Kim Jong-Un is the most democratic man around

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1 minute ago, bcking said:

No no, it is better to lock up anyone who disagrees with you. That is the secret to a strong "democracy". Kim Jong-Un is the most democratic man around

He even hires staff to follow family members around with towels to make sure their faces are clean.

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2 minutes ago, bcking said:

No no, it is better to lock up anyone who disagrees with you. That is the secret to a strong "democracy". Kim Jong-Un is the most democratic man around

  

    We've had a few mass shooting incidents in Colorado where the shooters obviously shouldn't have been in the same room as a firearm to begin with. I wonder if this guy would support passing a law making it easier for the victims and families to go after the people who sell the weapons and ammunition. Or maybe allowing families to sue politicians who supported legislation that made it easier for guys like James Holmes to get a gun in the first place.  

 

  

 

  

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5 minutes ago, Dakine10 said:

  

    We've had a few mass shooting incidents in Colorado where the shooters obviously shouldn't have been in the same room as a firearm to begin with. I wonder if this guy would support passing a law making it easier for the victims and families to go after the people who sell the weapons and ammunition. Or maybe allowing families to sue politicians who supported legislation that made it easier for guys like James Holmes to get a gun in the first place.  

 

 

ACLU would be all over that, Constitutional right.

 

Harbouring illegals I do not think is.

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26 minutes ago, Dakine10 said:

  Isn't that called voting?

That is one way, but if you are the grieving parent of someone killed by an illegal immigrant that was in the area solely because the local lawmakers made it a sanctuary city/county/state, should you be held accountable to that family?  I am not sure the person in this case would get the satisfaction from someone simply losing an election. 

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20 minutes ago, Dakine10 said:

  

    We've had a few mass shooting incidents in Colorado where the shooters obviously shouldn't have been in the same room as a firearm to begin with. I wonder if this guy would support passing a law making it easier for the victims and families to go after the people who sell the weapons and ammunition. Or maybe allowing families to sue politicians who supported legislation that made it easier for guys like James Holmes to get a gun in the first place.  

 

  

 

  

Kind of a false equivalency.

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5 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

That is one way, but if you are the grieving parent of someone killed by an illegal immigrant that was in the area solely because the local lawmakers made it a sanctuary city/county/state, should you be held accountable to that family?  I am not sure the person in this case would get the satisfaction from someone simply losing an election. 

Sanctuary Cities, to my knowledge, are established using laws/ordinances that are perfectly within their right to establish (at least for now). They are ALLOWED to refuse to cooperate with Federal immigration officers, again at least for now.

 

Without a change in laws that would force cities/states to comply with Federal law (Marijuana as another example), the city is completely within their right. So yes someone could sue the city, but I just don't think it would be very successful. 

 

Every state has different speed limits for highways, some faster than others. If someone is killed by someone driving 70 miles an hour in California, you can't sue the state of California for not passing a law limiting the speed limit to 60 miles per hour.

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If it is not clear this is a change of law that would allow such actions to be successful.

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3 minutes ago, Boiler said:

If it is not clear this is a change of law that would allow such actions to be successful.

Good point. I don't know much about Colarado politics specifically, but I'm guessing that the governor would not sign that bill. Based purely on his political party so yes it is a big assumption.

 

If it passes then the logical law to follow would be one allowing people to sue the state for not complying with other federal laws. If someone high on marijuana causes a car accident, someone should be able to sue the state for not complying with federal law and making it legal in the state.

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2 minutes ago, bcking said:

Good point. I don't know much about Colarado politics specifically, but I'm guessing that the governor would not sign that bill. Based purely on his political party so yes it is a big assumption.

 

If it passes then the logical law to follow would be one allowing people to sue the state for not complying with other federal laws. If someone high on marijuana causes a car accident, someone should be able to sue the state for not complying with federal law and making it legal in the state.

Driving whilst high is against the law in Colorado.