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This is a VERY helpful write-up -- not only for Moscow, but with considerations that might apply elsewhere in the world. Many thanks for your exhaustive effort.


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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This is a VERY helpful write-up -- not only for Moscow, but with considerations that might apply elsewhere in the world. Many thanks for your exhaustive effort.

Thanks TBone! I wasn't sure if I should post this in the DCF forum or the Russia forum, but if it's helpful to anyone else that's good to know. :star:


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26-Jul-2016: Married abroad :3
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Embassy
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received :]

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview - approved!

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

                     I-90 GC Replacment (for Erroneous GC)

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22-Jul-2017: GC arrives in the mail – middle name is cut off 😕

01-Aug-2017: Sent in I-90 online via website

05-Aug-2017: Biometrics scheduled

23-Aug-2017: Biometrics done @ USCIS office; kept GC!

16-Jul-2018: RFE for supporting docs!! D:<

31-Jul-2018: USCIS Appointment at local field office..

22-Aug-2018: Mailed GC back to USCIS in response to RFE

29-Aug-2018: GC received by USCIS

17-Sept-2018: Received CORRECTED GC in the mail! Finally!!

 

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Maybe start a thread in DCF in which you say, "See this link for a review of a DCF interview in Russia," and post the link, and leave it at that.


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Maybe start a thread in DCF in which you say, "See this link for a review of a DCF interview in Russia," and post the link, and leave it at that.

Thanks, I just did so! :)


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26-Jul-2016: Married abroad :3
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Embassy
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received :]

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview - approved!

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

                     I-90 GC Replacment (for Erroneous GC)

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22-Jul-2017: GC arrives in the mail – middle name is cut off 😕

01-Aug-2017: Sent in I-90 online via website

05-Aug-2017: Biometrics scheduled

23-Aug-2017: Biometrics done @ USCIS office; kept GC!

16-Jul-2018: RFE for supporting docs!! D:<

31-Jul-2018: USCIS Appointment at local field office..

22-Aug-2018: Mailed GC back to USCIS in response to RFE

29-Aug-2018: GC received by USCIS

17-Sept-2018: Received CORRECTED GC in the mail! Finally!!

 

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UPDATE: The I-130 has been approved!! Wow, that was so fast! It took only 9 days, including the day off they had for Xmas. I'm so relieved!! :D

Now to get started on the second part of the process...

 

 

 

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26-Jul-2016: Married abroad :3
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Embassy
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received :]

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview - approved!

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

                     I-90 GC Replacment (for Erroneous GC)

Spoiler

22-Jul-2017: GC arrives in the mail – middle name is cut off 😕

01-Aug-2017: Sent in I-90 online via website

05-Aug-2017: Biometrics scheduled

23-Aug-2017: Biometrics done @ USCIS office; kept GC!

16-Jul-2018: RFE for supporting docs!! D:<

31-Jul-2018: USCIS Appointment at local field office..

22-Aug-2018: Mailed GC back to USCIS in response to RFE

29-Aug-2018: GC received by USCIS

17-Sept-2018: Received CORRECTED GC in the mail! Finally!!

 

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That's great! :dance:


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Congrats!


Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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Thank you for sharing this! My husband is also getting ready to file I-130 form for me in Moscow and we are getting the documents ready right now. Quick question about translation... We have had our marriage license translated by the translation agency but I also have a degree certifying me to translate documents from English to Russian and visa versa. Can I translate receipts, my husband's registration papers and other little things? Or all the translations should be done by an agency? 

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2 hours ago, Tori's mom said:

Thank you for sharing this! My husband is also getting ready to file I-130 form for me in Moscow and we are getting the documents ready right now. Quick question about translation... We have had our marriage license translated by the translation agency but I also have a degree certifying me to translate documents from English to Russian and visa versa. Can I translate receipts, my husband's registration papers and other little things? Or all the translations should be done by an agency? 

If you know Russian/English well enough to translate it, they will accept it. You just have to attach a separate sheet of paper to each translation saying that you are a competent translator, sign and date it.

 

You can even translate marriage certificates yourself. You can translate everything by yourself if you feel that you are competent enough to do so. We ended up paying for professional translations of some contracts and other really wordy/verbose documents just to save time.

 

If you want, I can copy and paste here the attachment page that I added to my translations.

 

P.S. I noticed that you said your husband is planning to file the I-130 for you....does that mean you won't be accompanying him? If I'm not mistaken, both of you will be required to attend, even for the I-130. You're doing DCF right?

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26-Jul-2016: Married abroad :3
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Embassy
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received :]

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview - approved!

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

                     I-90 GC Replacment (for Erroneous GC)

Spoiler

22-Jul-2017: GC arrives in the mail – middle name is cut off 😕

01-Aug-2017: Sent in I-90 online via website

05-Aug-2017: Biometrics scheduled

23-Aug-2017: Biometrics done @ USCIS office; kept GC!

16-Jul-2018: RFE for supporting docs!! D:<

31-Jul-2018: USCIS Appointment at local field office..

22-Aug-2018: Mailed GC back to USCIS in response to RFE

29-Aug-2018: GC received by USCIS

17-Sept-2018: Received CORRECTED GC in the mail! Finally!!

 

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7 hours ago, millefleur said:

If you know Russian/English well enough to translate it, they will accept it. You just have to attach a separate sheet of paper to each translation saying that you are a competent translator, sign and date it.

 

You can even translate marriage certificates yourself. You can translate everything by yourself if you feel that you are competent enough to do so. We ended up paying for professional translations of some contracts and other really wordy/verbose documents just to save time.

 

If you want, I can copy and paste here the attachment page that I added to my translations.

 

P.S. I noticed that you said your husband is planning to file the I-130 for you....does that mean you won't be accompanying him? If I'm not mistaken, both of you will be required to attend, even for the I-130. You're doing DCF right?

Yes,  can you please copy and paste the attachment page so I will be sure I put the correct information on mine.. 

We've been married for more than 2 years so I don't have to accompany him. The CIS Moscow office confirmed that in one of the emails we received from them. 

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1 hour ago, Tori's mom said:

Yes,  can you please copy and paste the attachment page so I will be sure I put the correct information on mine.. 

We've been married for more than 2 years so I don't have to accompany him. The CIS Moscow office confirmed that in one of the emails we received from them. 

Oh that's good to know. :thumbs: There was another VJer a while back who did DCF and reported the opposite: that all couples have the go to together regardless of how long they've been married. Convenient to know that it's not always the case! When in doubt, call them and ask like you did. There's so much conflicting info out there.

 

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I, (FULL NAME), hereby certify that the above is an accurate translation of the original document (INSERT DESCRIPTION OF DOCUMENT) in Russian language and that I am competent in both Russian and English languages to render such translation.

 

Signature___________________________________      Date___________________________                       

 

I also went ahead and got a translation agency that I have connections to verify my translations and put a stamp, but I know others who've done DCF where that wasn't necessary. I was just being paranoid as I'm not a native Russian speaker. If you want, you can add a line about having a university degree in languages/translation. One of my American friends did that (she has a degree in Russian) and it was accepted without problem.

 

 

 

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26-Jul-2016: Married abroad :3
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Embassy
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received :]

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview - approved!

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

                     I-90 GC Replacment (for Erroneous GC)

Spoiler

22-Jul-2017: GC arrives in the mail – middle name is cut off 😕

01-Aug-2017: Sent in I-90 online via website

05-Aug-2017: Biometrics scheduled

23-Aug-2017: Biometrics done @ USCIS office; kept GC!

16-Jul-2018: RFE for supporting docs!! D:<

31-Jul-2018: USCIS Appointment at local field office..

22-Aug-2018: Mailed GC back to USCIS in response to RFE

29-Aug-2018: GC received by USCIS

17-Sept-2018: Received CORRECTED GC in the mail! Finally!!

 

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So.. to all at the I-130 stage...just stay the course. If there are RFE's don't panic..it'll be ok. The USCIS is just covering their behinds in the vetting

process. They are aware that 99% of the applicants are perfectly legal and appropriate because who else would be willing to go through this kind

of examination (torment?) unless it is honest and truthful?? 

I can say now that my wife is about to take her Oath of Allegiance and receive her US Naturalization Certificate, that the waiting games after arriving

in the States is pretty stressful also. It seems like the next official letter will forever be in the mailbox tomorrow..or next day.  There is NOTHING easy

about this process on any family member directly involved, so be as gentle and understanding of each other as possible. Language barriers are very

real challenges. Do your best to suppress your first reactions and consider the meanings of what was said probably are not what you had in mind.

I love my wife with all my heart and we have an incredibly strong marriage but even after 4 years I still must take some time to consider language is

a challenge. Even though I know daily use Russian, and she is about the same level of English, we still have misunderstanding. I have accepted now this

will be a reality in our life together.

 

 For the American husbands or men who are Fiance keep in mind your non native English speaking lady is going to be going through a lot of adjustments

on how American life and systems really work when here. Some of the more difficult are the concepts of private insurance for health, life, or even auto coverage. Taxes (that one is beyond explanation even to most of us born here....the tax codes). Home owners insurance...the list is long...to your new family member

these are all odd and sometimes troubling.

 

 Some amazing everyday things we accept here as "well known" such as how  "drive throughs" are common here. It seems Americans almost "live"

from our cars (not in them..from them)  Do not assume as I did that these adjustments are easy to communicate or for your loved one to understand

at first explanation. I taught my wife to drive here in the States, she failed the practical testing twice and even though I was a tyrant and taskmaster

(worried for her safety while operating a 2 ton powerful machine on the open roads) she passed the third test without a hitch. It was a proud moment for

her and she earned it! It's difficult to do this kind of instruction. One might consider "farming out" this task that will be required for living in the United States.

 

 I do agree that taking every document support to the I-130 is a wise idea. For us on our journey the small fee to pay for the translations with notary (both in Moscow and the US) was worth the assurance of acceptance (we were married in Zags#4 in Moscow and later here in our Russian Orthodox Church in Santa Fe New Mexico). It involved a lot of busy footwork and Metro travel in Moscow. For those at the I-130 just continue to approach this as "us and them" ...go into this together with the singular goal you WILL accomplish this. Don't allow the red tape that seems it wants to pull you apart..make it bind you even stronger together. You'll need that bond for the times to come too.  Keep in mind that you will again need many of these same documents as you move forward to the N-400. DO NOT misplace them.. keep everything in one safe and fireproof location!

 

 We wish all the smoothest possible journey to Naturalization and do remember to contribute to come back to VisaJourney and share your experience. It will contribute to much comfort to others on this incredibly challenging saga we have all embarked on. 

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I would like to share our experience of filing i-130 petition at USCIS Moscow office. 

My husband (he is the us citizen) and I  got married I little over 3,5 years ago in Russia while he was studying here and have been living in Russia since then. In summer 2015 he got a work visa and is currently still working here. We had a baby in August and started thinking of moving to the US because his job situation is not working in our favor right now. So last week (January 12) he went to Moscow and filed the petition. I didn't have to accompany him since we've married for more than 2 years. We prepared lots of documents and translations and the officer only took all the forms, copies of our passports and our baby's documents, a copy and translation of our marriage license, my husband's work permit and work contract copies and translations. That's it. Guess the baby is enough proof of our relationship. And today (a week later) we received the approval. 

My question is how long it will take the consular section at the Moscow embassy to contact me for further information. 

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2 hours ago, Tori's mom said:

I would like to share our experience of filing i-130 petition at USCIS Moscow office. 

My husband (he is the us citizen) and I  got married I little over 3,5 years ago in Russia while he was studying here and have been living in Russia since then. In summer 2015 he got a work visa and is currently still working here. We had a baby in August and started thinking of moving to the US because his job situation is not working in our favor right now. So last week (January 12) he went to Moscow and filed the petition. I didn't have to accompany him since we've married for more than 2 years. We prepared lots of documents and translations and the officer only took all the forms, copies of our passports and our baby's documents, a copy and translation of our marriage license, my husband's work permit and work contract copies and translations. That's it. Guess the baby is enough proof of our relationship. And today (a week later) we received the approval. 

My question is how long it will take the consular section at the Moscow embassy to contact me for further information. 

Take a look at my timeline. I just got the email yesterday with the case number and further info on how to schedule the interview.

 

You've only just been approved, wait for about two weeks and you should get something. It was emailed directly to me (the petitioner) but I've heard they can also send it to the beneficiary as well. We're still waiting to get anything in paper via snail mail.

 

We had about a week delay in getting our case number due to the New Year holidays. But from others I've known who did DCF, 2 weeks about the standard time for hearing back from them with the case number.

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26-Jul-2016: Married abroad :3
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Embassy
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received :]

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview - approved!

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

                     I-90 GC Replacment (for Erroneous GC)

Spoiler

22-Jul-2017: GC arrives in the mail – middle name is cut off 😕

01-Aug-2017: Sent in I-90 online via website

05-Aug-2017: Biometrics scheduled

23-Aug-2017: Biometrics done @ USCIS office; kept GC!

16-Jul-2018: RFE for supporting docs!! D:<

31-Jul-2018: USCIS Appointment at local field office..

22-Aug-2018: Mailed GC back to USCIS in response to RFE

29-Aug-2018: GC received by USCIS

17-Sept-2018: Received CORRECTED GC in the mail! Finally!!

 

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