The Black Body Count Rises as Chicago Police Step Back

[TBoneTX 43,058]

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[OriZ 3,157]

Since no one can seem to grasp that my "shot like rabbits" was a clear exaggeration this is my disclaimer.

Not like rabbits but shot unarmed nevertheless. Geez Louise it's like flies on a ####### here.

Lesson: don't say something unless you actually mean it.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Lesson: don't say something unless you actually mean it.

I have seen blacks being shot like a rabbit, unarmed and compliant, not too far off if you must know.

That does not mean that it is a daily occurrence everywhere but it has happened too often.

It is troubling that you are way more concerned about my comment than the actual shootings.

If that is all what you got out of my post then I call it deflecting.

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[Janelle2002 3,865]

I have seen blacks being shot like a rabbit, unarmed and compliant, not too far off if you must know.

That does not mean that it is a daily occurrence everywhere but it has happened too often.

It is troubling that

you are way more concerned about my comment than the actual shootings.

Great observation

[Jacque67 7,328]

I have seen blacks being shot like a rabbit, unarmed and compliant, not too far off if you must know.

That does not mean that it is a daily occurrence everywhere but it has happened too often.

It is troubling that you are way more concerned about my comment than the actual shootings.

If that is all what you got out of my post then I call it deflecting.

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[Sousuke 1,214]

I'm not a fan of BLM, but there clearly is an issue occurring with too many fatalities.

I don't think every case is clear, but there are at least two cases that jump out as flat out murder. Others aren't as clear. Here are 4 that jump out off the top of my head.

Eric Gardner was murdered based upon what I've seen / read. (NY)

Luis Gongora was murdered based upon what I've seen / read. (SF)

Michael Brown was likely shot in self defense. (STL)

Oscar Grant was an accident and involuntary manslaughter was the right call. (OAK)

[smilesammich 10,727]

I'm not a fan of BLM, but there clearly is an issue occurring with too many fatalities.

I don't think every case is clear, but there are at least two cases that jump out as flat out murder. Others aren't as clear. Here are 4 that jump out off the top of my head.

i agree. and i don't necessarily think it has to be flat out murder for the public to be alarmed. we need to start thinking about exactly what excessive force constitutes and how we determine it in policing.

this is a problem:

http://www.killedbypolice.net/

[JayJayH 546]

Whenever you take this racism issue between black and whites in the USA to another level you deflect away from the simple fact

that racism exists and try to explain it away by talking about Greek, Italian and Irish immigrants. You know very well what the issue is.

I never denied the discrimination against the immigrants or the discrimination that still exists today against white immigrants and non white

immigrants.

I will not engage in your deflection any further but bring you back to the core point. The civil rights era was not about whites being

oppressed. White people in the USA oppressed blacks and not the other way around. The stench of it remains. Core point.

I don't consider that deflection. The reason I bring up Italian immigrants, Irish immigrants, Russian immigrants etc. is because the way the 'progressive' left talks about issues concerning race tend to end up something like this:

"White people owe something to people of color." That's why we have wonderful websites like reparations.me isn't it?

If we're going to talk about "white" and "black" people in terms of one being an oppressor and one being oppressed and something being "owed" in the context of current issues, it is useful to know who "white" is, and who "black" is. Are 2nd generation Somali immigrants being oppressed by 1st generation Hungarian Jews? Do 3rd generation Italian immigrants in New Jersey need to take responsibility for what southern English Americans did in Georgia 200 years ago? Do I as a 1st generation Norwegian immigrant owe something to my black friend who makes more money than I do?

Unless we're landing at the conclusion that no one owes anyone anything based on skin color, these are highly relevant questions.

Sure, agreed, the stench of Jim Crow laws and segregation is still evident today. That's partly why there are statistical income disparities between Americans of African ancestry and Americans of European ancestry. If you're a black American born into a middle class household in America today though, there are no laws preventing you from he same upward mobility that an Asian, white or Hispanic middle class kid would have. Now, aside from saying "I don't care what color your skin is" and promoting that mantra, what do you suggest we do? Keep making policies specifically directed at people based purely on their perceived skin pigmentation (identity politics)?

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[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

I don't consider that deflection. The reason I bring up Italian immigrants, Irish immigrants, Russian immigrants etc. is because the way the 'progressive' left talks about issues concerning race tend to end up something like this:

"White people owe something to people of color." That's why we have wonderful websites like reparations.me isn't it?

If we're going to talk about "white" and "black" people in terms of one being an oppressor and one being oppressed and something being "owed" in the context of current issues, it is useful to know who "white" is, and who "black" is. Are 2nd generation Somali immigrants being oppressed by 1st generation Hungarian Jews? Do 3rd generation Italian immigrants in New Jersey need to take responsibility for what southern English Americans did in Georgia 200 years ago? Do I as a 1st generation Norwegian immigrant owe something to my black friend who makes more money than I do?

Unless we're landing at the conclusion that no one owes anyone anything based on skin color, these are highly relevant questions.

Sure, agreed, the stench of Jim Crow laws and segregation is still evident today. That's partly why there are statistical income disparities between Americans of African ancestry and Americans of European ancestry. If you're a black American born into a middle class household in America today though, there are no laws preventing you from he same upward mobility that an Asian, white or Hispanic middle class kid would have. Now, aside from saying "I don't care what color your skin is" and promoting that mantra, what do you suggest we do? Keep making policies specifically directed at people based purely on their perceived skin pigmentation (identity politics)?

So you want to politicize it. I disagree that all the discussions end like you claim. Perhaps you see it that way because you are having

conversations within your political circle. No, we don't have web sites like reparations because of the democratic party. We have a web sites

like that because someone thought it was a kind gesture to do. Not sure why republicans who claim strong Christianity have a problem

with that. The gospels are all about kindness to your brother and giving, no ?

I don't know why this riles you up so much, if you do not feel like giving from the kindness of your heart then don't. Simply move on and

say no thank you. Simple as that. No one is forcing your Norwegian heiny to make reparation to anyone. No one says you owe your

black supervisor. Whoever does not feel they owe anyone anything is not forced to do anything, no matter what ethnicity.

What makes you ask these silly far fetched questions ?

Calm yourself and go about your merry way the way you see fit and if I or others do choose to give a gift of kindness or reparation

then what is it to you? Why the indignation, why the focus on something that does not pertain to you ?

What do I suggest we do ? If there is oppression or prejudice in a sector based on skin pigmentation

then yes, of course I suggest we make policies to bring the oppressed to an equal springboard and platform.

It is cause and effect and if you want to call it identity politics then that is your choice, I call it opposing racism and fighting for equality.