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hello i am the petitioner for my k1 fiance who is from syria and living in turkey, My fiancee, omar's, interview is september the 21st but I'm worried about not being able to provide a couple of documents. obviously since syria is in war it is very hard to get anything from the government ie family extract, birth certificate, and police records. omar has his original family extract and birth certificate but they are old and not recently printed which I'm not sure is required in the Ankara embassy. me and omar are both 20 years old and omar left syria at 17 which makes him elligable for a police certificate. he also stayed in lebanon as a visitor for 8 months before moving to turkey, does this mean he needs a police certificate from lebanon as well even though there is no way for people who were just visitors in lebanon to get a police certificate (omar commited no crimes and has never been convicted). please give me advice, I'm afraid the consular will not understand his difficult circumstances! if there is any advice you guys could provide that would be great!

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*** Thread is moved from the K-1 Process forum to the Embassy/Consulate forum -- topic involves that phase. ***


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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According to the State Department's website (https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/fees/reciprocity-by-country/SY.html), they recognize that police certificates might not be available to Syrian citizens who are residing outside Syria. So, you should be okay with that. I would write out the explanation, i.e., that he left Syria at the age of 17 (3+ years ago) and has not been back and has been unable to get the certificate fromm outside Syria.

Have you tried getting the certificate from Lebanon? The State Department's site (https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/fees/reciprocity-by-country/LE.html) does not say anything about visitors being able to get them, but indicates the process for those living outside Lebanaon. But, since the application for those in Lebanon requires an identity card, a logical argument could be made that it wold also be needed for those otside Lebanon and that they would not be available to those who were only visiting. I would suggest you also write up your explanation on that as well -- that you can't get one as he was merely a long-term visitor -- and see what happens.

The worst would be that they would 221g the application until you can demonstrate that you have exhausted all avenues of getting the documents or you get them and present them to the consulate.

The age of the family record and birth certificate (assuming they are offical records and are still readable) should also not pose a problem. In fact, the age of the documents might actually be viewed positively as they might be viewed as more believeable -- it is unlikely that he got fraudulent documents years ago with the intention of using them years later to immigrate to the US.

Best of luck in your process!

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According to the State Department's website (https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/fees/reciprocity-by-country/SY.html), they recognize that police certificates might not be available to Syrian citizens who are residing outside Syria. So, you should be okay with that. I would write out the explanation, i.e., that he left Syria at the age of 17 (3+ years ago) and has not been back and has been unable to get the certificate fromm outside Syria.

Have you tried getting the certificate from Lebanon? The State Department's site (https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/fees/reciprocity-by-country/LE.html) does not say anything about visitors being able to get them, but indicates the process for those living outside Lebanaon. But, since the application for those in Lebanon requires an identity card, a logical argument could be made that it wold also be needed for those otside Lebanon and that they would not be available to those who were only visiting. I would suggest you also write up your explanation on that as well -- that you can't get one as he was merely a long-term visitor -- and see what happens.

The worst would be that they would 221g the application until you can demonstrate that you have exhausted all avenues of getting the documents or you get them and present them to the consulate.

The age of the family record and birth certificate (assuming they are offical records and are still readable) should also not pose a problem. In fact, the age of the documents might actually be viewed positively as they might be viewed as more believeable -- it is unlikely that he got fraudulent documents years ago with the intention of using them years later to immigrate to the US.

Best of luck in your process!

Thank you so so much you have really made me feel better about my situation, I'll do what you said and write up statements, you've helped so much I really appreciate it I'll keep you posted on what happens after his interview:)

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Hello all! Thanks for posting on this topic. I am in a similar situation - I am US citizen with a Syrian fiance who is currently living in Istanbul. We are still waiting to schedule our interview - we've been instructed to do so, but no dates seem to be opening up (we were able to start checking mid-Dec 2016). Looking ahead to next steps - Gafelkins56 and smoustafa96, can I ask what happened with the police certificates and how your interview went? Just want to make sure we are well prepared!

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