Met on IMB

[Green Bay 0]

Hey people. We need your help. We really met on IMB. We asked the website (http://russian-ukrainian-women.com/) if they are on IMBRA thay sayd YES. So we should write YES in a question about where we met. Now we try to understand what to do. I heard to get approval with this is too hard. Help us please.

Edited May 25, 2016 by Irina7891

[LionessDeon 2,060]

Trying to get approved by lying is also very difficult.

The best thing to do is answer honestly. Print out the terms and conditions of the website and read through them. It could cause problems down the line if you answer No and they request the site info that shows they are indeed an IMBRA.

Edited May 25, 2016 by LionessDeon

[Green Bay 0]

Trying to get approved by lying is also very difficult.

The best thing to do is answer honestly. Print out the terms and conditions of the website and read through them. It could cause problems down the line if you answer No and they request the site info that shows they are indeed an IMBRA.

Yeah i understand that but what is that?

"If you met your fiancé(e) or spouse (your beneficiary) through the services of an international marriage broker (IMB), you must notify USCIS of that fact by answering Item Number 35. in Part 2. of this form. In addition, you must provide the signed, written consent form that the IMB obtained from your beneficiary authorizing the release of his or her personal contact information to you. If the consent form is written in any language other than English, you must provide a certified English translation with the original form."

If we say YES we need this consent form but we don't have it and if we say No it will be lie. I read somwhere that better to write NO but in attachment we need to write how we truly met. It really confused us.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

You need to say yes and get the form as the instructions dictate. If you do not do what is asked, or lie, you will be denied and your fiancee may be banned from the US permanently.

[Green Bay 0]

You need to say yes and get the form as the instructions dictate. If you do not do what is asked, or lie, you will be denied and your fiancee may be banned from the US permanently.

Thank you. But thay asked for signed consent form. We don't have this and never signed anything.

[TBoneTX 45,453]

Was a consent form required before you could meet anybody on the website?

[Green Bay 0]

Was a consent form required before you could meet anybody on the website?

Actually I don't remember but I think no.

[Green Bay 0]

Hey people, in the terms of use i found this information:

"Company remotely and by electronic means supplies an online dating Service via Internet"

"The Company does it best to background check all Registered users and make your online dating safe, but the authentification on the internet is extremely difficult and we can't guarantee that all Registered users profiles are reliable, accurate or complete."

"You acknowledge that there are risks involved in online dating
- unknowingly dealing with underage persons
- communicating with a person with criminal purpose, including scammers
- defamation, discovery, and damage to Your Reputation"

"We are not held responsible for the completeness or accuracy of the information published on the Website; We can't guarantee that the information on the Website is up to date"

"15. Limitations of liability

It is not a marriage site, we provide a platform to post and allow Registered users to make contacts and communicate for personal and non-business purposes."

If I understand wright they are not IMB but why than they write it to me?

Edited May 26, 2016 by Irina7891

[AmyWrites 593]

Have you met in person?

[Green Bay 0]

Have you met in person?

Yes sure

[Ksenia_O 696]

Hey people, in the terms of use i found this information:

"Company remotely and by electronic means supplies an online dating Service via Internet"

"The Company does it best to background check all Registered users and make your online dating safe, but the authentification on the internet is extremely difficult and we can't guarantee that all Registered users profiles are reliable, accurate or complete."

"You acknowledge that there are risks involved in online dating

- unknowingly dealing with underage persons

- communicating with a person with criminal purpose, including scammers

- defamation, discovery, and damage to Your Reputation"

"We are not held responsible for the completeness or accuracy of the information published on the Website; We can't guarantee that the information on the Website is up to date"

"15. Limitations of liability

It is not a marriage site, we provide a platform to post and allow Registered users to make contacts and communicate for personal and non-business purposes."

If I understand wright they are not IMB but why than they write it to me?

I would try and ask the Website again - why do they 'believe" they are an IMB, if their Term of USE indicates opposite thing.

Anyway, according to the Term of Use it is not a IMB. My answer to the question 35 on the Form I-129F would be "NO" to a website being an IMB. Also, I would write an explanation letter in support of my answer.

- The Website is not located in the US - looks like it's located in Republic of Seychelles.

- The website is worldwide and men from other countries have the same opportunities as US men to meet women - I see there are members from EU, USA and other countries on the Website, so it doesn’t match U.S citizens/permanent residents with foreign nationals as their 'principal business'.

I would definitely mention that the Term of Use indicates that the Website is not held responsible for the completeness or accuracy of the information published on the Website; they can't guarantee that the information on the Website is up to date.

If you have never been provided with any consent form for the release of personal information, you should state this in the Letter. That it was completely your decision to release your personal information and you have made all arrangements to meet yourselves and have never had any help from the website. ??? - double check here

Then I would print out and attach "supporting documents" for the Website not being IMBRA as follows:

1. Welcome to the Website page/Tem of Use, which indicates it is online dating site.

2. Term of Use, that indicates NO warranty as to identity of member and it is not a marriage site (highlighted).

Also, i would highlight p.10 "Special Termination rules" & p.19. "Laws and Jurisdiction".

Good LUCK!!!

Edited May 26, 2016 by Ksenia_O

[JeffandTanya 30]

Hey people, in the terms of use i found this information:

"Company remotely and by electronic means supplies an online dating Service via Internet"

"The Company does it best to background check all Registered users and make your online dating safe, but the authentification on the internet is extremely difficult and we can't guarantee that all Registered users profiles are reliable, accurate or complete."

"You acknowledge that there are risks involved in online dating

- unknowingly dealing with underage persons

- communicating with a person with criminal purpose, including scammers

- defamation, discovery, and damage to Your Reputation"

"We are not held responsible for the completeness or accuracy of the information published on the Website; We can't guarantee that the information on the Website is up to date"

"15. Limitations of liability

It is not a marriage site, we provide a platform to post and allow Registered users to make contacts and communicate for personal and non-business purposes."

If I understand wright they are not IMB but why than they write it to me?

From what you have posted here I'm thinking there might have been some miscommunication between you and the site when you asked if they are an IMB or not. I would write back to them and ask specifically about how you should respond to that question on the I-129f form to petition for a K1 visa. Most sites have run into this a lot, especially within the last year and a half and should know how to respond by now. They will either have a canned email response that they do not fall under the IMBRA definition and why, or they will provide the signed consent form. Either way, you will want to get this straight before you send in your I-129f. Just checking "No" without providing supporting documentation to back it up will definitely get you a RFE requesting the information to prove it's not an IMB.

[Green Bay 0]

Thanks to all for replying. I found information in there terms of use that they are not marriage site and they have never give to another person your information. So I think that at first time they lie to me that they are an IMB. But I will figure out more information. Actually hate that.

[JeffandTanya 30]

Thanks to all for replying. I found information in there terms of use that they are not marriage site and they have never give to another person your information. So I think that at first time they lie to me that they are an IMB. But I will figure out more information. Actually hate that.

I know, it's a pain. I went through the RFE for the IMB issue. They got stricter about enforcement right when we applied. Good luck!

[Green Bay 0]

I know, it's a pain. I went through the RFE for the IMB issue. They got stricter about enforcement right when we applied. Good luck!

You know I got massage from that website. First when I asked tham if they are IMB thay said yes but for now they told that if we deleted our accounts we must pay 50$ for take any information. Its weird. For what? For IMBRA form? Its ridiculous. Then i found information that the websites that position there like an imb they can charge fees to give us a personal contacts but in their terms of use they write that they have never give to anyone your personal contacts. It really confused me. If I understand right the IMBRA laws contain that only you are IMB can give the contact information. And if it's only simply dating website that can't do this. Am I right?