Many millions of Muslims 'fundamentally incompatible with the modern world'

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/many-millions-of-muslims-fundamentally-incompatible-with-the-west-says-tony-blair-a6954796.html

Tony Blair has said that "many millions" of Muslims hold a viewpoint that is "fundamentally incompatible with the modern world."

Rejecting arguments that Isis is simply "tens of thousands of brainwashed crazies," he continued: "[isis] does not seek dialogue but dominance. It cannot therefore be contained. It has to be defeated."

To mitigate against such attacks, the ex-PM argued for "active on-the-ground military support" for Arab armies, stating that Isis "have to be crushed."

He also called for the creation of a pan-national anti-terror force, saying: "We must build military capability able to confront and defeat the terrorists wherever they try to hold territory. This is a challenge for the West."

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I am guessing that we can count on ####### Cheyney to give Mr. Blair a harumph!

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He is right, I don't believe anybody can honestly argue otherwise except from a position of profound ignorance. Even ignoring their propensity to religious violence the Islamic world is categorically behind in every measure of decent countries, from freedom of the press to economy, technology, etc. Islam is a great ball and chain holding back those nations' progress.

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Religions of all kinds are by nature backwards thinking and holding back progress. Conflating religious beliefs with cultural and regional norms, lumping all Muslims in with the actual tiny fraction active in Islamic Extremism, only pushes those who could go either way to the path of Extremism.

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New definition of tiny fraction.

[ExPatty 502]

Religions of all kinds are by nature backwards thinking and holding back progress. Conflating religious beliefs with cultural and regional norms, lumping all Muslims in with the actual tiny fraction active in Islamic Extremism, only pushes those who could go either way to the path of Extremism.

Do you know why I am right so often? Because I believe in facts. Even 42% of Canadian Muslims think Islam is incompatible with western values. So much for a tiny fraction.

http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2015/03/26/most-canadians-believe-west-and-islam-irreconcileable-poll/

New definition of tiny fraction.

42% I guess.

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Do you know why I am right so often? Because I believe in facts. Even 42% of Canadian Muslims think Islam is incompatible with western values. So much for a tiny fraction.

http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2015/03/26/most-canadians-believe-west-and-islam-irreconcileable-poll/

42% I guess.

Then post the facts. What percentage of people here are killed by Muslims? I think R41 said 14. If that's so, shouldn't you fear other Americans since we kill each other by the truckloads?

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Then post the facts. What percentage of people here are killed by Muslims? I think R41 said 14. If that's so, shouldn't you fear other Americans since we kill each other by the truckloads?

You've got that right. When I go out I'm not worried about Muslims, I'm worried about the crazy MFs in my community.

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Then post the facts. What percentage of people here are killed by Muslims? I think R41 said 14. If that's so, shouldn't you fear other Americans since we kill each other by the truckloads?

Try to stay on topic for once? The poll directly speaks to the thread title.

42% of Muslims agree it is unreconcilable.

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Try to stay on topic for once? The poll directly speaks to the thread title.

42% of Muslims agree it is unreconcilable.

But I am on topic. I'm asking you directly. If there are 1.6 million Muslims here in THIS country, how is it possible that they are functioning without beheading people daily?

And being this is a open forum, I have the right to ask questions. You don't want to address it? You have that right as well. I'm just asking, if Islam is incompatible with the modern world, the US being a first world country and all, how are they surviving? I mean sure, you've have a few instances of violence(14 this year) which is horrible, but in the grand scheme of things, we kill each other by the buckets and it seems to fall on deaf ears.

You've got that right. When I go out I'm not worried about Muslims, I'm worried about the crazy MFs in my community.

Me too. Like I said this country is so backwards when it comes to Islam, they want to ban anyone who looks Muslimly but a dude going to buy explosives and 10000 rounds for 200 guns gets the bulk discount.

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Give them a chance!

Belgium and France did no used to be like they are now. Takes time, can not expect it to be instant.

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If there are 1.6 million Muslims here in THIS country, how is it possible that they are functioning without beheading people daily?

This is why I ignore most of your posts. I just see no intellectual curiosity behind them; to you most muslims do not behead people, ergo they are compatible.

You should take your complaints to the 42% of canadian muslims who answered the poll. Or the 40% of british muslims who want sharia: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

Facts, facts, facts. If in doubt, you need to google. If you don't understand a topic you must research it until you do. Nobody will do this for you and nobody can disabuse misunderstandings unless you are open to correction.

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Religions of all kinds are by nature backwards thinking and holding back progress. Conflating religious beliefs with cultural and regional norms, lumping all Muslims in with the actual tiny fraction active in Islamic Extremism, only pushes those who could go either way to the path of Extremism.

What other religion when it has gained a majority in a country has done more to hinder progress and more to destroy human rights? What other religion has done more to hundr other religious rights?

Name one...

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This is why I ignore most of your posts. I just see no intellectual curiosity behind them; to you most muslims do not behead people, ergo they are compatible.

You should take your complaints to the 42% of canadian muslims who answered the poll. Or the 40% of british muslims who want sharia: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

Facts, facts, facts. If in doubt, you need to google. If you don't understand a topic you must research it until you do. Nobody will do this for you and nobody can disabuse misunderstandings unless you are open to correction.

Facts that AREN'T talking about the Muslims that live here in the US. You ignore me because you don't know HOW to respond.

Why would I complain to Muslims that aren't here in THIS country? You seem to be basing everything off everywhere else EXCEPT the one place you want to keep Muslims out of. Talk about lazy. You can't use facts that are relevant to the US so you've resorted to going everywhere else. If facts are so important to you, post the number of Muslims here that carry out violence and frame it against other people that aren't Muslims. You won't because it would be admitting that we don't have a problem with Islamic terrorism here. Don't be a fraidy cat.

Fact: Muslims here aren't the majority of law breakers or even criminals, yet you are more than willing to paint them as such using numbers from Timbuktu since you can't do it here in your own country. But I admire your effort. Whatever it takes to keep the fires of hate stoked I guess.

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What other religion when it has gained a majority in a country has done more to hinder progress and more to destroy human rights? What other religion has done more to hundr other religious rights?

Name one...

Christianity in the countries I named before have similar issues.

And let's be clear, this country is trying REALLY hard to do the same thing in the terms of religious freedom.