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Have you read all the drug related posts on here? Lots of people feel honesty is the best policy and they do say yes. Because not a lot of people know about the ban. Then they come here and ask for help.

I agree - lots of people say yes. Lying to them is very scary! I imagine getting caught in a lie like that would/could result in a permanent ban.

If it were me I'd probably lie however... (Im not a drug user, but I have tried in the past)

The question becomes did he deny using and then test positive ? That can lead to a longer bar for misrepresentation

Thankfully no. He was truthful and tested positive.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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I agree - lots of people say yes. Lying to them is very scary! I imagine getting caught in a lie like that would/could result in a permanent ban.

If it were me I'd probably lie however... (Im not a drug user, but I have tried in the past)

Thankfully no. He was truthful and tested positive.

America's war on drugs has been going on for a long time. It doesn't seem to be ending anytime soon federally. I've seen a lot of people come on here and mention that there are states where it's legal to smoke. That may be true, but it's still a federal crime. While you're (not you literally) an immigrant it's best to remember this up until you become a citizen.

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Thanks for the supportive comment.

Sorry if you took it as a blunt, rude, crass comment, but I am of the mindset that if something is illegal in the country you are moving to, you probably should cease the action. Even if you lived in a legal state, it is still federally illegal, and the immigration process isn't handled by state governments, it is handled by the federal government. It is a good idea to abide by all laws of the country you are travelling, moving, immigrating to to avoid problems.

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11/11/14 - Met online through eHarmony
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12/20/14 - Communicating through Phone Calls and Video Calls
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America's war on drugs has been going on for a long time. It doesn't seem to be ending anytime soon federally. I've seen a lot of people come on here and mention that there are states where it's legal to smoke. That may be true, but it's still a federal crime. While you're (not you literally) an immigrant it's best to remember this up until you become a citizen.

Agree with you totally, now that I've had this experience. Our lawyer told us after the fact that the govt holds immigrants to a higher standard than the average citizen. Hearing that was kind of like a lightbulb moment. It might not seem 'fair' to some but seems logical... I just wish the lawyer told us this before and not after.

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At Knightsbridge clinic in London there is a form to fill out and bring in as well as another similar to fill out when you arrive at the appointment. Both ask about drug use. During the exam, the doctor will chat away about various things and usually brings up drug use. Some will say "no" thinking the questions are for habitual users. The doctor will seem friendly and like it is no big deal and say "oh surely you tried it just once at a party or something." An admission of ever, even once twenty years ago, of trying a drug will get you a urine test for drug screening. A clean screening usually allows a visa in London.

The blood testing is for sexually transmitted diseases. They are not screening the blood for drugs. At Knightsbridge clinic you will only be tested for drugs if you admit ever using or have drugs on your police record. One guy I recall smoked in his hotel room the night before going to his K1 interview. The consulate officer was suspicious of his behavior or his reeking of marijuana odor, and sent him straight to a drug testing facility.

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Agree with you totally, now that I've had this experience. Our lawyer told us after the fact that the govt holds immigrants to a higher standard than the average citizen. Hearing that was kind of like a lightbulb moment. It might not seem 'fair' to some but seems logical... I just wish the lawyer told us this before and not after.

That's where lawyers can be unhelpful. They often remember these things after the fact. Coming from Canada I'll admit it seemed crazy that using marijuana could be an inadmissibity. But I respect that it's the law. Canada has a high standard of not letting people into the country with dui convictions. It's ####### for tat I suppose.

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The past is the past, he has a drug issue, how are you addressing it?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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The past is the past, he has a drug issue, how are you addressing it?

Well we don't feel he has a drug issue. And we don't think everyone who smokes weed occasionally has a drug issue. You may disagree or maybe we have different definitions of what a drug issue is. We understand that regardless, its is against the law.

We have addressed it by him not smoking... I am not up on the latest studies but I am under the impression that weed isn't addictive. He certainly isn't addicted so he has had no problem not smoking. We will do whatever the embassy tells us to do.

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Well we don't feel he has a drug issue. And we don't think everyone who smokes weed occasionally has a drug issue. You may disagree or maybe we have different definitions of what a drug issue is. We understand that regardless, its is against the law.

We have addressed it by him not smoking... I am not up on the latest studies but I am under the impression that weed isn't addictive. He certainly isn't addicted so he has had no problem not smoking. We will do whatever the embassy tells us to do.

What I think does not matter, what the Doctor and the Consulate think does.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Ten posts have been removed, because they were arguably rude, unnecessarily argumentative, or quoted such verbiage. Any more of this will result in thread-bans or worse. For now, this thread will remain open so that the OP can provide updates and so that others can ask objective questions about the situation.

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

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There wasn't much research that needed to be done.

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Medical/LND%20-%20London

The document you were required to print out and bring with you to the Medical tells you what to expect. It literally states (Physical Exam, Chest X-Ray, and Blood Test). I mean what did you think they were drawing blood for, there are many drugs that don't show up in a urine sample, a blood test is the best way to analyze for drug usage. It is just most employers don't use this method, because the cost of a blood test is far far greater than a urine sample.

Just to clear something up incase other users read this in the future - the drug test wasnt done via the blood sample. It was done on the urine sample.

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