Moving to Canada in case of Trump presidency

[traveler100 20]

I know this is a US immigration website and my question and my question relates to the US citizenship and permanent residency aspect of it. As a US citizen, how can we maintain valid Canadian residency? And for one of us, how do we go about settling down in Canada as a US legal permanent resident? What are the requirements for a green card holder to maintain legal permanent residence as far as the US is concerned in terms of length of stay? No more then 6 months at a time? a year? how lengthy is the process to gain Canadian permanent residence for a USC? As a USC, are we allowed to work in Canada? I know all we have to do is show passport at the border and we can enter Canada and come back. What about getting a job there? Owning a business? And buying property..

ps. Let us all respect each other's political views. Whether or not Trump is good for America is irrelevant. We all are free to have our opinions.

[Boiler 43,516]

Where would you suggest someone goes if Hillary wins?

[Pitaya 2,576]

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[Lemonslice 4,561]

Answers can be found on cic.gc.ca - forum similar to this one is Road to Canada. Currently, Canadian government efforts are to bring refugees and qualified workers. Justin will be at the White House Thursday if you have more questions.

[traveler100 20]

Where would you suggest someone goes if Hillary wins?

Wherever you'd like. The world is your oyster. I like Canada

[Boiler 43,516]

Answers can be found on cic.gc.ca - forum similar to this one is Road to Canada. Currently, Canadian government efforts are to bring refugees and qualified workers. Justin will be at the White House Thursday if you have more questions.

So this presumably would fit into refugees?

[Cheezees 1,514]

Where would you suggest someone goes if Hillary wins?

To the Trump towers?

[cdneh 3,112]

My son in law went to Canada from NZ, a Commonwealth country mind, and has legal status and it took him 5 years. Disgruntled americans, who don't care for the new president elect, whoever that might end up being, are not refugees. Most of them don't understand that there is more to it than buying a ticket. Canada doesn't have to take you in, and allow you to remain, because you don't like the government where you live, and want to bail.

They can't just turn up and work, and expect to get benefits either. Canada doesn't work that way.

A green card is for living in the USA. It isn't for popping back in and out to attempt to maintain a status. The border people seeing that often enough are going to ask some fairly pointed questions.

So this presumably would fit into refugees?

Hardly.

Where would you suggest someone goes if Hillary wins?

I dunno. Where did the republicans run away to when Obama was elected? Uh...nowhere.

[Boiler 43,516]

USC's have claimed asylum in Canada.

[cdneh 3,112]

Not on account of an election they have not. Nor will that be successful. A refugee is defined as a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster. Not liking the party in power is none of those choices.

[traveler100 20]

They can't just turn up and work, and expect to get benefits either. Canada doesn't work that way.

So, how does Canada work? Please enlighten me. Fyi, the US doesn't work this way either. We pay taxes and obey the law, that's the price of the "benefits" Some people love to throw the word around like it's some kind of immoral ring of power that people abuse. No one in the US ever accumulated great wealth through benefits. They're for the poor, for people who struggle to support families who somehow didn't get a chance to get ahead, who somehow were failed by the system. It's a way equalize the quality of life of the rich and poor. This is how it works in the USA. Now, tell me about Canada! please. How DOES it work there?!

[Boiler 43,516]

A refugee, according to the Geneva Convention on Refugees is a person who is outside their country of citizenship because they have well-founded grounds for fear of persecution because of their race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion,

[Lemonslice 4,561]

So this presumably would fit into refugees?

Some have tried. Easiest paths might be similar to the ones to move to the USA. NAFTA visa, Family reunion/marriage (common law marriage is sufficient, no need to get married), other qualified workers and large investors... Asylum claims aren't easy and usually take forever to be processed, unless you're "selected" by Canadian officials abroad or you're being privately sponsored (by friends, family, a church, etc.).

[cdneh 3,112]

So, how does Canada work? Please enlighten me. Fyi, the US doesn't work this way either. We pay taxes and obey the law, that's the price of the "benefits" Some people love to throw the word around like it's some kind of immoral ring of power that people abuse. No one in the US ever accumulated great wealth through benefits. They're for the poor, for people who struggle to support families who somehow didn't get a chance to get ahead, who somehow were failed by the system. It's a way equalize the quality of life of the rich and poor. This is how it works in the USA. Now, tell me about Canada! please. How DOES it work there?!

I know four individual families in my dinky little town alone that are third generation on benefits, relatives of people I worked with. Taking money from the people who earned it, and giving it to the people who haven't doesn't equalize anything. It's meant to be a leg up, not a life style. Those people haven't been" failed by the system", the only thing that's let them down is themselves. Walking around in the latest Nike gear, iphone 6's to their ears, turning up at the food bank where I volunteer because there is no food in the house for the kids. You arent going to 'get a chance to get ahead' if you have no work eithic are you. America is a capatalist society, no one gets to sit on their backside and be supported by 'the system'. That's Russia. Ask Bernie.

Canada is not some annex of the USA. It is a separate country. Look it up. There are just as many hurdles to getting into Canada as an LPR as there are herre. It isn't some convienient sideways movement you can elect to make when you disapprove of the way things are going where you are. When things are not going the way you wish they were, you don't bail.

And as far as refugees, you need a more compelling reason that not liking Republicans, they are unlikely to start persecuting Democrats based on membership of a particular social group or political opinion, We aren't tallking Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge here. That arguement is utter nonsense, and it won't fly. Canadians may be polite, but they are not dim.

[Boiler 43,516]

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