Drop In Black Men In Medical School Will Have Alarming Affects On Community Health

[Janelle2002 3,865]

I'm not stretching.

When parents are inundated with STRANGERS WILL STEAL YOUR CHILDREN! THEY ARE ON EVERY STREET CORNER, LURKING WITH THEIR HARD GENITALS AND CANDY AND KNIVES! then parents parent according to the fear that they experience based on that. They hover over their children, make sure the doors are always locked, make sure they know every moment of their child's day so nothing can happen. Those children grow up and the parenting influences that they have taught them that you must watch your children. They see messages that you MUST BE INVOLVED WITH YOUR CHILDREN OR THEY WILL NEVER GET JOBS AND GET INTO COLLEGE and they become extreme helicopter parents, even accompanying their children to job interviews.

Parents parent based on societal pressures. Look at what happens to so called free range parenting movements--they get arrested and their children get collected by police to force them to fit the helicopter model.

Now, I was raised by white people. I can't say for sure what the pressures facing black parents are, but I can imagine them (and please, Janelle and Marvin, correct any inaccuracies so I can learn!). I imagine that when black parents see black kids getting shot for going to the corner store wearing a hoodie, they teach their children not to wear hoodies and to make sure they stay in the light with their hands out in the open. They try to teach their sons to do exactly what a police officer says even while they lay awake at night worrying that their child won't live to go to bed tomorrow because all a police officer has to say is 'the kid went for my gun' and they'll be backed up on that. When they've seen the effects on their families and communities of medical experimentation on people of colour, when they've been misdiagnosed because doctors miss symptoms they'd see in a heartbeat in a white person, they tell their kids to try and find a doctor of colour because they'll get substandard care from a white doctor.

A household is not outside of society, it is part of it and subject to its pressures.

My kids don't go to the playground, the store, nowhere without me. And yes, it's because I am afraid someone will get them or they will get shot for no reason. The only thing I let them do is go to the pool which is right under my nose. And if we pulled over by the police we automatically put our hands in the air.

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

Thanks NAT. I try to teach them not to hold this against everyone they meet. But it's a focking shame that I teach my kids the right thing and there are other parents who won't. I mean, really, it's 2015, get with the problem. Now my kids are baring a scar they shouldn't have to.

So long for having a clean slate each generation. Maybe my grand kids generation will be better.

The only way for a clean slate would be to live in absentia of society and you can't do that. Your kids shouldn't have to deal with that BS. They shouldn't have that scar. They should get to be just kids, doing kid stuff, not being held responsible for the colour of their skin. I'm so sorry.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I'm not stretching.

When parents are inundated with STRANGERS WILL STEAL YOUR CHILDREN! THEY ARE ON EVERY STREET CORNER, LURKING WITH THEIR HARD GENITALS AND CANDY AND KNIVES! then parents parent according to the fear that they experience based on that. They hover over their children, make sure the doors are always locked, make sure they know every moment of their child's day so nothing can happen. Those children grow up and the parenting influences that they have taught them that you must watch your children. They see messages that you MUST BE INVOLVED WITH YOUR CHILDREN OR THEY WILL NEVER GET JOBS AND GET INTO COLLEGE and they become extreme helicopter parents, even accompanying their children to job interviews.

Parents parent based on societal pressures. Look at what happens to so called free range parenting movements--they get arrested and their children get collected by police to force them to fit the helicopter model.

Now, I was raised by white people. I can't say for sure what the pressures facing black parents are, but I can imagine them (and please, Janelle and Marvin, correct any inaccuracies so I can learn!). I imagine that when black parents see black kids getting shot for going to the corner store wearing a hoodie, they teach their children not to wear hoodies and to make sure they stay in the light with their hands out in the open. They try to teach their sons to do exactly what a police officer says even while they lay awake at night worrying that their child won't live to go to bed tomorrow because all a police officer has to say is 'the kid went for my gun' and they'll be backed up on that. When they've seen the effects on their families and communities of medical experimentation on people of colour, when they've been misdiagnosed because doctors miss symptoms they'd see in a heartbeat in a white person, they tell their kids to try and find a doctor of colour because they'll get substandard care from a white doctor.

A household is not outside of society, it is part of it and subject to its pressures.

When TM happened, my mother wanted me to burn every hoodie I had. I refused. I told her what I wear is not going to be dictated by some overzealous neighborhood watch volunteer. The police can treat us anyway we want, because they've been caught on camera beating or killing us, and they still won't go to jail. There's zero empathy for black people as a whole, and it's disturbing that a kid can go in and murder 9 church going elderly black people and the judge says the murderer's parents are the victims.

Our parents have to give us "the Talk", and trust me it's not just about the birds and the bees.

http://gawker.com/what-black-parents-tell-their-sons-about-the-police-1624412625

[Janelle2002 3,865]

The only way for a clean slate would be to live in absentia of society and you can't do that. Your kids shouldn't have to deal with that BS. They shouldn't have that scar. They should get to be just kids, doing kid stuff, not being held responsible for the colour of their skin. I'm so sorry.

Thanks NAT. If more awesome people like you were out here things would improve a lot quicker than the turtle crawl people call progression.

I want them to just be kids too. Every parent should want this for their children. To teach hate at such a young age stripes away their child hood and the sense of being a kid.

You also have to be scared for your friends too. Marv will tell you. It frightened me for him to take walks around my neighbor or to the store without me being present. There are not many minorities out here where I live and I didn't want someone to mistake him as a criminal instead of someone visiting a friend.

Edited August 14, 2015 by Janelle2002

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Thanks NAT. If more awesome people like you were out here things would improve a lot quicker than the turtle crawl people call progression.

I want them to just be kids too. Every parent should want this for their children. To teach hate at such a young age stripes away their child hood and the sense of being a kid.

You also have to be scared for your friends too. Marv will tell you. It frightened me for him to take walks around my neighbor or to the store without me being present. There are not many minorities out here where I live and I didn't want someone to mistake him as a criminal instead of someone visiting a friend.

She came outside after I took some trash out from her house. She said my name loudly because she thought something had happened to me. After being in Honolulu, I'd forgotten that being black in a neighborhood at night can be fatal...

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

Thanks NAT. If more awesome people like you were out here things would improve a lot quicker than the turtle crawl people call progression.

I want them to just be kids too. Every parent should want this for their children. To teach hate at such a young age stripes away their child hood and the sense of being a kid.

You also have to be scared for your friends too. Marv will tell you. It frightened me for him to take walks around my neighbor or to the store without me being present. There are not many minorities out here where I live and I didn't want someone to mistake him as a criminal instead of someone visiting a friend.

If more people paid attention to what goes on around them, they'd be more like me. I watched my brother reach the age of 15 before he could read in a school system where I once overheard teachers talking about how they shouldn't bother working extra with a first nations girl who was struggling because she was just going to get pregnant and drop out. My brother and I didn't pass as white as children and I can only wonder if the reason why the teachers ignored my mother's pleas to help him were because of the colour of our skin. He was, after all, a child with documented delays, who had come into the school system without any speech yet at the age of four and then once he learned to talk with speech therapy, they declared him caught up and that everything was fine. Instead, it took until he was 15 for them to listen to my mother.

It's not the same, I know. I get to put my white privilege on as a costume and take it off when I want, but I've seen the other side and it makes me understand better (though I will never understand fully) what you go through.

All I know is that my white wife will be the biological parent of our children, with a white sperm donor, for their safety.

[Darnell 8,478]

sorry, i apologize for touching off a storm of stuff,

but

i wasn't trying to compare what ANY of you did, at all.

My only point here, is that going forward, a black couple has an opportunity to fix the problem outlined back in post #1. that's it, that's all.

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

sorry, i apologize for touching off a storm of stuff,

but

i wasn't trying to compare what ANY of you did, at all.

My only point here, is that going forward, a black couple has an opportunity to fix the problem outlined back in post #1. that's it, that's all.

HOW do they have this opportunity, unless they pull their children entirely out of society?

[Darnell 8,478]

ah, now that answer, is best left as an exercise to the Reader. Hint: NAACP has the right agenda, y'all should study it, and soon..

[Janelle2002 3,865]

If more people paid attention to what goes on around them, they'd be more like me. I watched my brother reach the age of 15 before he could read in a school system where I once overheard teachers talking about how they shouldn't bother working extra with a first nations girl who was struggling because she was just going to get pregnant and drop out. My brother and I didn't pass as white as children and I can only wonder if the reason why the teachers ignored my mother's pleas to help him were because of the colour of our skin. He was, after all, a child with documented delays, who had come into the school system without any speech yet at the age of four and then once he learned to talk with speech therapy, they declared him caught up and that everything was fine. Instead, it took until he was 15 for them to listen to my mother.

It's not the same, I know. I get to put my white privilege on as a costume and take it off when I want, but I've seen the other side and it makes me understand better (though I will never understand fully) what you go through.

All I know is that my white wife will be the biological parent of our children, with a white sperm donor, for their safety.

Just sad, but this is what it is like in the school systems. That's why I am constantly on my kids. I can't depend on the schools to teach them. And I'm constantly at the schools too. They freaked out when I asked to spend a day at the school once.

You all will be wonderful parents. I think y'all should try black sperm.

ah, now that answer, is best left as an exercise to the Reader. Hint: NAACP has the right agenda, y'all should study it, and soon..

Post the agenda please.

Edited August 14, 2015 by Janelle2002

[Darnell 8,478]

nope. you too, can get a printed copy of it at the next chapter meeting ..

[Janelle2002 3,865]

nope. you too, can get a printed copy of it at the next chapter meeting ..

I hear a b....s.... alert going off.

[Ban Hammer 12,842]

one post of a youtube with profanity removed.......

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Please be careful in posting, folks...

Are you attacking my sentence construction skills again. Reported

[TBoneTX 43,061]

Granted that they're attackable, but let's just keep tempers down and focus on the topic rather than each other. And, seriously: if something's intolerable and treads on the Terms of Service, report it. That's why we Mods are paid such lavish salaries.