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I am the main sponsor and I have two joint sponsors. We all filled out I-864 forms. Should I send them all in one envelope with dividers to separate the papers with what goes with what or should I send them in three different envelopes?

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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Same envelope so it stays together.


Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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I am the main sponsor and I have two joint sponsors. We all filled out I-864 forms. Should I send them all in one envelope with dividers to separate the papers with what goes with what or should I send them in three different envelopes?

You are only permitted to have one joint sponsor. Did one joint sponsor combine income with a household member? If so then the other party is a household member of the joint sponsor, not a joint sponsor themselves.


Our journey:

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

 

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Germany
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There's a box that lets you select "I am the (first/second) of two joint sponsors."


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-(then fiance) H-2B work visa application terminated due to qualification difficulties in Aug. 2010.

-(then fiance) B-2 tourist visa denied due to lack of strong ties to Germany in Sept. 2010.
-Third ESTA denied due to his suspiscious visa status on Oct. 15, 2012.
-B-2 tourist visa approved on Nov. 16, 2012!

 

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-Extended German residence permit obtained Aug. 23, 2014. (to qualify for DCF)

-Husband's new German passport picked up Aug. 28, 2014. (Old one expires 2015)

-I-130 packet sent to Frankfurt (DCF) Aug. 29, 2014!

-NOA1 issued Sept. 9, 2014 (received Sept.13)

-RFE regarding evidence of bona fide marriage received along with NOA1

-RFE reply packet sent to Frankfurt Sept. 30, 2014

-E-mail response (NOA2) received by USCIS Frankfurt on Oct. 23, 2014 (Petition APPROVED Oct. 20!!!) :dancing:

-Paper NOA2 received in the mail Oct. 29, 2014

-Case number assigned by IV unit Oct. 30, 2014 (Received by email Nov. 3)

-Paper "Packet 3" arrived in mail Nov. 4, 2014

-DS-260 and Document Delivery Registration submitted to Frankfurt Nov. 4, 2014

-Mailed in priority date request found on Packet 3 to IV Unit Nov. 5, 2014

-IV ("Packet 3") package sent to Frankfurt Nov. 17, 2014

-Medical completed by Frankfurt panel physician Nov. 17, 2014

-Received "Packet 4" via e-mail Nov. 20, 2014

-Interview booked for Dec. 3, 2014 (booked Nov. 21, 2014 after email authorization received)
-Visa approved, issued AND picked up by the courier all within 7 hours, Dec. 3, 2014
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-Visa packet arrived in the mail Dec. 4, 2014

-Visa packet had to be returned to Frankfurt for correction on Immigrant Data Summary sheet (wrong birthplace listed) Dec. 5, 2014

-Corrected visa packet received in the mail Dec. 11, 2014

-$165 Immigrant fee paid Dec. 11, 2014

-POE (through Dublin, Ireland) Jan. 18, 2015

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There's a box that lets you select "I am the (first/second) of two joint sponsors."

Meaning I can have two joint sponsors because there is a box that says that or is the previous poster correct in saying I can only have 1 joint sponsor? The two joint sponsors are not living together and do not know one another.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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One sponsor per beneficiary, but if there is, say, a spouse and a child, you can "split them up"


Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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I called the NVC and asked how many joint sponsors an applicant can have and the representative said that they can have a minimum of two, plus the petitioner. Thank you for answers though. I really appreciate it.

For the benefit of others who will read this thread, this answer the NVC operator gave to the OP was grossly incorrect. The only situation where two joint sponsors are permissible is if there is a derivative beneficiary. The first joint sponsor would would be sponsoring the principal beneficiary and the second joint sponsor would sponsor the derivative beneficiary.

The IR-1/CR-1 visa category has no derivatives so two joint sponsors are not possible.


Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

 

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For the benefit of others who will read this thread, this answer the NVC operator gave to the OP was grossly incorrect. The only situation where two joint sponsors are permissible is if there is a derivative beneficiary. The first joint sponsor would would be sponsoring the principal beneficiary and the second joint sponsor would sponsor the derivative beneficiary.

The IR-1/CR-1 visa category has no derivatives so two joint sponsors are not possible.

If that is the case, if calling the NVC is not a reliable source, where do I go to get a reliable answer? It should be that the NVC would give the right answer, isn't it? I called more than once and each time they said more than one joint sponsor is okay. Where did you get this information?

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If that is the case, if calling the NVC is not a reliable source, where do I go to get a reliable answer? It should be that the NVC would give the right answer, isn't it? I called more than once and each time they said more than one joint sponsor is okay. Where did you get this information?

Like USCIS, operators at the NVC are contract workers trained to simply read from a script without regard to whether or not what they are actually saying is correct. My information is from the INA itself as well as other members who are very familiar with this aspect of the process.

If you submit an I-864 based on what you were told by those operators reading from a script, one of two things WILL happen:

  • You will be issued a checklist for an improperly completed I-864, costing you additional delays due to current NVC backlog.
  • If you are not issued a checklist, the CO (who has the actual say on whether the I-864 is accepted or not) will reject it outright and demand another form that is properly completed. This will delay the issuing if a visa.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

 

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Like USCIS, operators at the NVC are contract workers trained to simply read from a script without regard to whether or not what they are actually saying is correct. My information is from the INA itself as well as other members who are very familiar with this aspect of the process.

If you submit an I-864 based on what you were told by those operators reading from a script, one of two things WILL happen:

  • You will be issued a checklist for an improperly completed I-864, costing you additional delays due to current NVC backlog.
  • If you are not issued a checklist, the CO (who has the actual say on whether the I-864 is accepted or not) will reject it outright and demand another form that is properly completed. This will delay the issuing if a visa.

What is the INA? I have no problem with the process being delayed as my husband and I won't have a room in the house I am currently living in until late next year anyways. Will the NVC send the package back? If not, could I request the package be sent back to me? I sent in that package everything requested from my husband as well.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Sweden
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INA stands for Immigration and National Act. It's the law that governs US immigration.

In the I-864 instructions, it clearly states "a joint sponsor" and not joint sponsors. You can only use one joint sponsor for the beneficiary. Further down, it explains the only time when a second joint sponsor can be used. Like Ryan H already explained, the second joint sponsor can only be used "if the first joint sponsor completes form I-864 for some rather than all the family members, a second qualifying joint sponsor will be required to sponsor the remaining family members".


Met online October 2010


Engaged December 31st 2011


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USCIS Stage


September 8th 2014 - Filed I-130 with Nebraska Service Center


September 16th 2014 - NOA1 received


March 2nd 2015 - NOA2 received :dancing:



NVC Stage


March 28th 2015 - Choice of agent complete & AOS fee paid


April 17th 2015 - IV fee paid


May 1st 2015 - Sent in IV application


May 12th 2015 - Sent in AOS and IV documents


May 18th 2015 - Scan Date


June 18th 2015 - Checklist received


June 22nd 2015 - Checklist response sent to NVC


June 25th 2015 - Put for Supervisor Review


Sept 15th 2015 - Request help from Texas US Senator Cornyn and his team


Sept 23rd 2015 - Our case is moved from supervisor review to NVC's team for dealing with Senator requests


Nov 4th 2015 - CASE COMPLETE!!!! :dancing:



Embassy Stage


Dec 16th 2015 - Medical exam


Dec 21st 2015 - Interview


Dec 21st 2015 - 221(g) issued at interview for updated forms


Jan 13th 2016 - Mailed our reply to the 221(g) to the US Embassy, received and CEAC updated the next morning


Jan 20th 2016 - Embassy require more in-depth info on asset for i-864


Feb 1st 2016 - Sent more in-depth info on assets as requested. Received the next morning


Feb 16th 2016 - Visa has been issued :dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing:



In the US


April 5th 2016 - POE Newark. No questions asked.


April 14th 2016 - SSN received


May 10th 2016 - First day at my new job :dancing:


May 27th 2016 - Green Card received


June 7th 2016 - Got my Texas driver's license

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INA stands for Immigration and National Act. It's the law that governs US immigration.

In the I-864 instructions, it clearly states "a joint sponsor" and not joint sponsors. You can only use one joint sponsor for the beneficiary. Further down, it explains the only time when a second joint sponsor can be used. Like Ryan H already explained, the second joint sponsor can only be used "if the first joint sponsor completes form I-864 for some rather than all the family members, a second qualifying joint sponsor will be required to sponsor the remaining family members".

Okay. So how long do you think it would take for me to get a check list? Would they send back the whole package? I sent the AOS documents along with my the documents required from my husband. Will they send back all three of the forms I-864 and the tax return copies of both my biological father and my aunt's boyfriend or would I have to request either my biological father or my aunt's boyfriend to fill out and sign another I-864 and send me another copy of their tax return copy? Same goes with my husband's documents. Will they keep his documents with them? How much longer would this take? Estimate.

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Okay. So how long do you think it would take for me to get a check list? Would they send back the whole package? I sent the AOS documents along with my the documents required from my husband. Will they send back all three of the forms I-864 and the tax return copies of both my biological father and my aunt's boyfriend or would I have to request either my biological father or my aunt's boyfriend to fill out and sign another I-864 and send me another copy of their tax return copy? Same goes with my husband's documents. Will they keep his documents with them? How much longer would this take? Estimate.

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  • Okay. So how long do you think it would take for me to get a check list? Up to 60 days
  • Would they send back the whole package? No
  • I sent the AOS documents along with my the documents required from my husband. Will they send back all three of the forms I-864 and the tax return copies of both my biological father and my aunt's boyfriend or would I have to request either my biological father or my aunt's boyfriend to fill out and sign another I-864 and send me another copy of their tax return copy? You would need a NEW I-864 for the joint sponsor
  • Same goes with my husband's documents. Will they keep his documents with them? Yes
  • How much longer would this take? Estimate. 60 days for initial review and up to 60 days for the checklist review. So approximately 120 days total give or take.

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