Police: Young woman killed in gunfight between concealed weapon permit holder, felon

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

It's pretty much the same as claiming that people are being killed by guns simply because they're poor.

Why? Are all poor people criminals, as you suggest, so they deserve what you think they have coming to them?

[Karee 4,189]

Why? Are all poor people criminals, as you suggest, so they deserve what you think they have coming to them?

I never suggested that all poor people are criminals. I suggested that you are incorrect in pointing out that people are being killed simply becuase they are poor. I was trying to highlight the fact that the reason they may be getting killed is BECAUSE they are criminals, not because they are poor.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I never suggested that all poor people are criminals. I suggested that you are incorrect in pointing out that people are being killed simply becuase they are poor. I was trying to highlight the fact that the reason they may be getting killed is BECAUSE they are criminals, not because they are poor.

So, like Harsh, you believe just being being poor, you are a criminal, because only criminals are getting killed. Much like Harsh, you don't believe innocent people are getting killed in poor neighborhoods. Thank you for clearing that up.

[decocker 7,198]

poor people have a habit of being disposible. just like criminals.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I'm just glad that Marvin is now a successful white man and won't have to deal with things like this any longer.

Now that was funny

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I'm just glad that Marvin is now a successful white man and won't have to deal with things like this any longer.

Now that was funny

A poor black neighborhood? You know, the ones when you walk in and turn the lights on, the roaches DON't scatter. You know, the ones where 10$ can feed a family of 5 with Ramen noodles and lunch meat. Where drug deals and drive by's are so commonplace, kids don't even run for cover, they just keep walking and making sure they haven't been hit. My point is CC won't help here because those folks can barely keep food on the table and the bills paid, let alone run out and buy a handgun.

Wild Wild West, that's the WWW I'm talking about.

So the neighborhoods are full of guns but nobody has the money to buy guns, but there is plenty of money to buy drugs

Think about that

True. At least this one didn't call me a ####### head like the one the NB used once.

I just knew that was coming..

everything is the white mans fault

[Karee 4,189]

So, like Harsh, you believe just being being poor, you are a criminal, because only criminals are getting killed. Much like Harsh, you don't believe innocent people are getting killed in poor neighborhoods. Thank you for clearing that up.

I see you reading skills are failing you and you are just reading what you want to see. You are the one claiming they are being killed because they are poor. I am claiming that it's possible some of them are being killed because they are criminals. Nowhere did I ever say they are being killed because they are poor.

Please point out where I said poor=criminal.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Nah, the big difference is circumstances. When you have white folks with guns in the rural areas, it's more fun than it is malevoent. When was the last time you heard of a white kid being shot walking home from the store in a rural area? Out there it's more kids getting killed because someone left a gun out and they got their hands on it. Plus, those areas have a better police presence than an urban area, even if it's a fat dude in a sheriff outfit.

In a mostly urban area, you have drugs and guns, plus a nobody gives a **** about us mentality. Not to mention being poor and a police force that couldn't care less.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/253249-oakland-gang-shooting-in-broad-daylight-captured-on-dashboard-camera-video/

Do you know what the most disturbing fact is in this video? Not the fact this took place in broad daylight. Not the fact these guys just opened fired on a crowded street. Not the fact the cops got there way too late. It's the kid walking 15 feet away from it all, did you see his reaction? He turned around and keep walking like it was nothing. This means he's used to it. That's scary.

Got to care about yourself first

Aston Kutcher nails it

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[Harsh_77 716]

1) Plenty of people here have said more guns = less crime.

2) The part I bolded is false. I've told you numerous times it's false. You keep saying that's what I want, and I keep telling you it isn't. I can't think of new ways to explain it to you, though.

Do you support stricter gun control?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

1) Plenty of people here have said more guns = less crime.

2) The part I bolded is false. I've told you numerous times it's false. You keep saying that's what I want, and I keep telling you it isn't. I can't think of new ways to explain it to you, though.

who here has said that I never said that

Show me where I said that

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I see you reading skills are failing you and you are just reading what you want to see. You are the one claiming they are being killed because they are poor. I am claiming that it's possible some of them are being killed because they are criminals. Nowhere did I ever say they are being killed because they are poor.

Please point out where I said poor=criminal.

Harsh's logic and your logic:

People are not getting killed because they are poor, they are getting killed because they criminals. Therefore, if a poor person is getting killed, it is because he is a criminal.

[Karee 4,189]

Therefore, if a poor person is getting killed, it is because he is a criminal.

That may be your logic and Harsh's logic. It's not my logic. I never said that. I said criminals are getting killed because they're criminals.

[Harsh_77 716]

Those weapons the felons are arming themselves with come from law abiding citizens just trying to protect themselves. It a vicious cycle, much like trying to put a fire out with gasoline. The NRA is just fanning the flames and simple minded folks don't even realize how they are being used to perpetuate the cycle.

Law abiding citizens don’t go handing out their weapons to felons or donating their weapons to the felons, so the cycle you are talking about does not make any sense.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I said criminals are getting killed because they're criminals.

So, why are poor people getting killed, or are you like Harsh, saying that doesn't happen, unless they are criminals? That is what your statement is implying.

[Harsh_77 716]

Harsh's logic and your logic:

People are not getting killed because they are poor, they are getting killed because they criminals. Therefore, if a poor person is getting killed, it is because he is a criminal.

That is not even my logic so I m not sure what u talking.