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'It's ok for homosexuals to do what they want at home, how is this different?' Lawyer defends Columbia professor charged with incest

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David Epstein is charged with third-degree incest over an alleged three-year sexual relationship with his 24-year-old daughter

The lawyer representing a professor charged with incest with his 24-year-old daughter has questioned why the alleged affair has been made public.

David Epstein was charged last week with one count of incest for what was allegedly a consensual three-year sexual relationship with his daughter.

The political science professor at Columbia University, 46, allegedly slept with her between 2006 and 2009.

Epstein, who specialises in American politics and voting rights, is also said to have exchanged twisted text messages with the woman during their relationship.

Matthew Galluzzo, defending Epstein, has said that even though his daughter had emerged as a victim in the case, she could 'best be described as an accomplice'.

He told ABCNews.com: 'Academically, we are obviously all morally opposed to incest and rightfully so.

'At the same time, there is an argument to be made in the Swiss case to let go what goes on privately in bedrooms.

'It's ok for homosexuals to do whatever they want in their own home. How is this so different?

'We have to figure out why some behaviour is tolerated and some is not.'

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In an interview with the Huffington Post, he added: 'What goes on between consenting adults in private should not be legislated. That is not the proper domain of our law.

'If we assume for a moment that both parties [involved in incest] are consenting, then why are we prosecuting this?'

Epstein, who has taught at Harvard and Stanford, is currently on administrative leave from Columbia.

Switzerland legislators have proposed decriminalising consensual sexual relationships between first-degree relatives, including siblings and parents and their adult children.

Consensual incest is also legal in China, France, Israel, the Ivory Coast, the Netherlands, Russia, Spain and Turkey, according to a 2007 report from the Max Planck Institute in Germany.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339108/David-Epstein-Homosexuals-want-INCEST-different.html#ixzz2Po7XkFID

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'It's ok for homosexuals to do what they want at home, how is this different?' Lawyer defends Columbia professor charged with incest

article-1339108-0C6D3E0D000005DC-916_233x273.jpg

David Epstein is charged with third-degree incest over an alleged three-year sexual relationship with his 24-year-old daughter

The lawyer representing a professor charged with incest with his 24-year-old daughter has questioned why the alleged affair has been made public.

David Epstein was charged last week with one count of incest for what was allegedly a consensual three-year sexual relationship with his daughter.

The political science professor at Columbia University, 46, allegedly slept with her between 2006 and 2009.

Epstein, who specialises in American politics and voting rights, is also said to have exchanged twisted text messages with the woman during their relationship.

Matthew Galluzzo, defending Epstein, has said that even though his daughter had emerged as a victim in the case, she could 'best be described as an accomplice'.

He told ABCNews.com: 'Academically, we are obviously all morally opposed to incest and rightfully so.

'At the same time, there is an argument to be made in the Swiss case to let go what goes on privately in bedrooms.

'It's ok for homosexuals to do whatever they want in their own home. How is this so different?

'We have to figure out why some behaviour is tolerated and some is not.'

article-1339108-0C6D4023000005DC-299_468x305.jpg

In an interview with the Huffington Post, he added: 'What goes on between consenting adults in private should not be legislated. That is not the proper domain of our law.

'If we assume for a moment that both parties [involved in incest] are consenting, then why are we prosecuting this?'

Epstein, who has taught at Harvard and Stanford, is currently on administrative leave from Columbia.

Switzerland legislators have proposed decriminalising consensual sexual relationships between first-degree relatives, including siblings and parents and their adult children.

Consensual incest is also legal in China, France, Israel, the Ivory Coast, the Netherlands, Russia, Spain and Turkey, according to a 2007 report from the Max Planck Institute in Germany.

Read more: http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz2Po7XkFID

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As Taboo as that may be, and no matter how personally offensive it may be to me, what two consenting adults do in thier bedroom is thier business, even if it is father and daughter. Before all you "bestiality will be next crowd get started", I said two consenting adults.. and I might add of sound mind and free from coercion.

And he is right.. it is no different than homosexual sex or heterosexual sex for that mater.

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Soon the case before scotus will be about being married to 3 wives or 3 dogs.Anything goes.

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As Taboo as that may be, and no matter how personally offensive it may be to me, what two consenting adults do in thier bedroom is thier business, even if it is father and daughter. Before all you "bestiality will be next crowd get started", I said two consenting adults.. and I might add of sound mind and free from coercion.

And he is right.. it is no different than homosexual sex or heterosexual sex for that mater.

-Just because you in 2013 would draw the line at "bestiality".... you have to know without a foundation, your kids might be a bit more tolerant than even you are... in fact you can count on it.

-His comparison was not between hetro -** relationships but rather, **-incest..... 2 expressions of sex which are not in the mainstream:

His point being if **-sex is now acceptable, by what principle do you condemn his actions.

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Soon the case before scotus will be about being married to 3 wives or 3 dogs.Anything goes.

Now, now, lets not assume too much too quickly, one descends a staircase, one step at a time.

Most certainly 3 wives are already on the horizon.... after all how do you tell a man who wishes to marry the mothers of his children -They can't be a family- ?

And after all, if Men are accepted as husband and wives, who would even bother to then organize any opposition to any other combination?

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As Taboo as that may be, and no matter how personally offensive it may be to me, what two consenting adults do in thier bedroom is thier business, even if it is father and daughter. Before all you "bestiality will be next crowd get started", I said two consenting adults.. and I might add of sound mind and free from coercion.

And he is right.. it is no different than homosexual sex or heterosexual sex for that mater.

Yup. Agreed.

Bestiality will never be accepted in a civilized society. There are some posters here who can't seem to understand the difference between something like a homosexual relationship and a man having sex with a dog. For them, there's no hope of ever getting it.

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His daughter as consenting? I suspect that he's had her groomed since a very young age to take care of his needs. That's how these types of cases play out. Child molestation, pedophilia. You really think she became an adult before he said, hey my baby, let's get it on. No way, uh uh! My mom used to work for a social services clinic which had a lot of this #######. There were cases of dads doing their daughters for years and years. Prepubescents who knew how to perform on a guy. Sick stuff. So no way that this father-daughter romance just popped up spontaneously when she became of age.

Do you believe that all cases of father/daughter incest begin this way? That none of them are truly consensual? Not trying to start an argument, genuinely curious.

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Yup. Agreed.

Bestiality will never be accepted in a civilized society. There are some posters here who can't seem to understand the difference between something like a homosexual relationship and a man having sex with a dog. For them, there's no hope of ever getting it.

Why would you judge what a "willing" women and her pet do in the privacy of their home?

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William Penn

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As Taboo as that may be, and no matter how personally offensive it may be to me, what two consenting adults do in thier bedroom is thier business, even if it is father and daughter. Before all you "bestiality will be next crowd get started", I said two consenting adults.. and I might add of sound mind and free from coercion.

And he is right.. it is no different than homosexual sex or heterosexual sex for that mater.

Does shagging sheep count as bestiality? Personally I have no problem with sheep or goats. And kudos Ric for spelling bestiality correctly. :devil:

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How do you know if the pet is willing?

SIMPLE: Apply Danno-logic!

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