Fiancee visa denied Phnom Penh

[Mao91 0]

hi all, I just got back from Cambodia 2 week after my fiancee interview date i was there for the interview to didn't help. We had an appointment on May the 16th 2012. We went in got our number submitted our evidence which were call record, money wife transfer, pictures of our engagment ceremony and picture of us going out places. Paid our fee and got to the prelimenary questioning window. The OC asked my fiancee a few question where i live, who i live with, where i work, name of my company. My fiancee answer all the question spot on. Then the OC asked me to the window and ask me a few question how many sister does my fiancee have, name of her sisters, what my wife does on her free time. Then told me to sit back down and asked my wife a few more question what i did on my free time. Nothing to do with how long we met or how we met then asked me to come back to the window and told us she couldn't issue her a visa cause she didn't believe my fiancee love for me was genuine that my fiancee only want to immigrate to the US not cause she love me. She told me i can either re-apply for K-1 visa petition for her again or get marry and do the marry petition. Age difference is about 13 years I'm not sure if that played a part in it she is only 21 and i'm 33 about to be 34. Call record had calls record at least twice a week every week from September 2011 to April 2012, Wire transfer from western union had at least 500 each month same time frame and plenty of picture of us together with her family to. Question is what should i do now just re-apply for another k-1 for her or go back and get marry and do the k-3? Thanks any advise would be grateful.

[Rogelyn 0]

Sorry to read that. I suggest you marry your fiance and file the CR1 visa. It will take a long while than fiance visa but all worth it the waiting. Good Luck.

[Ning 619]

hi all, I just got back from Cambodia 2 week after my fiancee interview date i was there for the interview to didn't help. We had an appointment on May the 16th 2012. We went in got our number submitted our evidence which were call record, money wife transfer, pictures of our engagment ceremony and picture of us going out places. Paid our fee and got to the prelimenary questioning window. The OC asked my fiancee a few question where i live, who i live with, where i work, name of my company. My fiancee answer all the question spot on. Then the OC asked me to the window and ask me a few question how many sister does my fiancee have, name of her sisters, what my wife does on her free time. Then told me to sit back down and asked my wife a few more question what i did on my free time. Nothing to do with how long we met or how we met then asked me to come back to the window and told us she couldn't issue her a visa cause she didn't believe my fiancee love for me was genuine that my fiancee only want to immigrate to the US not cause she love me. She told me i can either re-apply for K-1 visa petition for her again or get marry and do the marry petition. Age difference is about 13 years I'm not sure if that played a part in it she is only 21 and i'm 33 about to be 34. Call record had calls record at least twice a week every week from September 2011 to April 2012, Wire transfer from western union had at least 500 each month same time frame and plenty of picture of us together with her family to. Question is what should i do now just re-apply for another k-1 for her or go back and get marry and do the k-3? Thanks any advise would be grateful.

Cambodia is always difficult from what I have seen. The 500 per month was probably a huge red flag. Trying the K 1 again would be a mistake I think because it wont change the situation except for the timing.

Forget the K 3. Look into the C R 1 which you could do if you get married. This would give yo a much better chance to succeed.

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hi all, I just got back from Cambodia 2 week after my fiancee interview date i was there for the interview to didn't help. We had an appointment on May the 16th 2012. We went in got our number submitted our evidence which were call record, money wife transfer, pictures of our engagment ceremony and picture of us going out places. Paid our fee and got to the prelimenary questioning window. The OC asked my fiancee a few question where i live, who i live with, where i work, name of my company. My fiancee answer all the question spot on. Then the OC asked me to the window and ask me a few question how many sister does my fiancee have, name of her sisters, what my wife does on her free time. Then told me to sit back down and asked my wife a few more question what i did on my free time. Nothing to do with how long we met or how we met then asked me to come back to the window and told us she couldn't issue her a visa cause she didn't believe my fiancee love for me was genuine that my fiancee only want to immigrate to the US not cause she love me. She told me i can either re-apply for K-1 visa petition for her again or get marry and do the marry petition. Age difference is about 13 years I'm not sure if that played a part in it she is only 21 and i'm 33 about to be 34. Call record had calls record at least twice a week every week from September 2011 to April 2012, Wire transfer from western union had at least 500 each month same time frame and plenty of picture of us together with her family to. Question is what should i do now just re-apply for another k-1 for her or go back and get marry and do the k-3? Thanks any advise would be grateful.

This is the nightmare that I am afraid of. They never came out and say what they were lookiung for so we can be prepared. Sorry Dude.

Cambodia is always difficult from what I have seen. The 500 per month was probably a huge red flag. Trying the K 1 again would be a mistake I think because it wont change the situation except for the timing.

Forget the K 3. Look into the C R 1 which you could do if you get married. This would give yo a much better chance to succeed.

Why? It's the USC sending money, not the other way around.

[orangedesk 27]

I'm sorry you have to deal with your situation. i think the issue of sending money is actually what raised the red flag here. I've seen other posts on this forum that showing money transfers is bad idea because it shows the beneficiary is relying on the petitioner for money already, before they've immigrated and there's instances of fraud where a foreign person takes advantage of a U.S. citizen for their money and a chance to come to the United States. I am not saying that this is what is happening in your situation, but it has been known to happen and what may be considered, especially in a high-fraud country.

I think the issue with transferring money is that you never want to lie during the interview, but it's not something you want to highlight as an evidence of the relationship.

[Boiler 47,034]

Was this a dowry?

[Xanax 349]

Can you appeal at all?

[Mao91 0]

Thanks all for the replies. As for the money I thought it show that i can support my fiancee and that if i would do that much effort and money into supporting my wife oversea that i trust my fiancee that much to. I was told by the agency i use to file my I-129F with an appeal will most likely not happen cause usually you won't get any kind of notice till after the visa expire. Should i just not send so much money anymore or just not show them all of the money transfers? If i do decide to go with the CR1. Is the CR1 more likely to be approve or can they refuse that to? Do they realize that they ruined people lives when they do that to people my life has been basically put on pause since i met her how can you move on with your life if you don't know if you can ever be together. The last 10 months of my life was hell when i got back from meeting her part of me just wasn't here with me. All i had to look forward to was getting her here but to be refuse just cause some interviewer had a gut feeling that it wasn't real is stupid. Would hiring a lawyer help at all? thanks

[Xanax 349]

Thanks all for the replies. As for the money I thought it show that i can support my fiancee and that if i would do that much effort and money into supporting my wife oversea that i trust my fiancee that much to. I was told by the agency i use to file my I-129F with an appeal will most likely not happen cause usually you won't get any kind of notice till after the visa expire. Should i just not send so much money anymore or just not show them all of the money transfers? If i do decide to go with the CR1. Is the CR1 more likely to be approve or can they refuse that to? Do they realize that they ruined people lives when they do that to people my life has been basically put on pause since i met her how can you move on with your life if you don't know if you can ever be together. The last 10 months of my life was hell when i got back from meeting her part of me just wasn't here with me. All i had to look forward to was getting her here but to be refuse just cause some interviewer had a gut feeling that it wasn't real is stupid. Would hiring a lawyer help at all? thanks

To answer your questions about the CR-1 and being denied. Yes CR-1 can also be denied.

I know the process is frustrating and hard, but hang in there.

Personally I cannot advise you about what the agency you used has told you, most of us I assume do not use agencies or lawyers/attorneys.

If they believe the relationship is not a bonafide one, I guess the burden is on you if you decide to go the CR-1 route to prove the relationship is real.

If you think that sending money was the problem, don't show them next time unless they ask.

No one can tell you whether or not you should hire a lawyer, it is your prerogative. What I would say is , have a consultation with one, see what they say, heck , have a few consultations (a lot of the time they are free).

Edited June 7, 2012 by BrittandDan

[Anh map 2,098]

Remember that this K1 petition and interview are part of the file that will be a part of the CR1 petition. The CO's reasons for denying the K1 will still have to be overcome.

Another trip (or more) will help to show a more bona fide relationship. Often multiple trips and evidence of time spent with the the beneficiary's family can be helpful. Be sure to have more photos of you two with the family on subsequent trips.

The money transfers don't show a "strong" relationship. Giving what seems (to the CO) memorized answers about the petitioner can cause concern. It's not just what is said, but how it is said.

Take another trip (at least), have an enjoyable wedding ceremony, and submit the CR1 spouse petition.

Best of luck.

[ChetT 9]

Red Flag must be there. From what you told us here, it seems to be OK. But there must be something more. Filing again without knowing the reason for refusal would not help. I know it's tough.

For god sake, if they refuse my wife visa I would fly and live there for 6 months and do DCF.

[Joe_&_Nadiya 1]

BTW...I have noticed in your description of the interview as well as on another reply that you refered to your fiancee as your wife....Did you happen to refer to her as your wife during the interview by any chance?

Edited June 7, 2012 by Joe & Nadya

[Paul+Leticia 1]

To answer your questions about the CR-1 and being denied. Yes CR-1 can also be denied.

I know the process is frustrating and hard, but hang in there.

Personally I cannot advise you about what the agency you used has told you, most of us I assume do not use agencies or lawyers/attorneys.

If they believe the relationship is not a bonafide one, I guess the burden is on you if you decide to go the CR-1 route to prove the relationship is real.

If you think that sending money was the problem, don't show them next time unless they ask.

No one can tell you whether or not you should hire a lawyer, it is your prerogative. What I would say is , have a consultation with one, see what they say, heck , have a few consultations (a lot of the time they are free).

If you consult a lawyer they will say YES u need one!

[Ning 619]

Red Flag must be there. From what you told us here, it seems to be OK. But there must be something more. Filing again without knowing the reason for refusal would not help. I know it's tough.

For god sake, if they refuse my wife visa I would fly and live there for 6 months and do DCF.

The transfer of the money was not a good idea even though the intention was sound.

What happened here will have nothing to do with your case in that it is a C R 1. Before you decide to try the DCF route you may want to see if they do DCF in Cambodia. If so you must be a legal resident there not just live there.

[Sayha or bust. 71]

Was this a dowry?

You say this because he wires his fiancee money each month? Maybe his fiancee quit work to study english or prepare for her interview, that's what my fiancee did, so I sent her money each month like he did, never a red flag for us.

Joe & Nadya

Posted Today, 05:21 PM

BTW...I have noticed in your description of the interview as well as on another reply that you refered to your fiancee as your wife....Did you happen to refer to her as your wife during the interview by any chance?

My fiancee called me her husband after our engagement ceremony. I can almost bet his ceremony was like ours, basically the same as a Khmer wedding but with out the official wedding document. I don't buy a denial for calling him her husband or vice a versa. Some of our letters and emails were addressed that way, never a mention about it in the interview.