Male nurse fired over treating Muslim women

[Sofiyya 1,687]

someone's gotta pay for this. This doesn't make sense? In your opinion, whom do you think will pay for it?

a) the males that requested certain service for their wives and duaghter

b) The supervisor that ordered the first order

C) the MD that ordered that he has to see all patient equal

D) The Supervisor that fired..

Then what do you know about the CODE OF CONDUCT OF THE HOSPITAL THAT HE FIRST SIGNED.....

THE AGREEMENTS OF EMPLOYEMENT......

THE OTHER CIRCUMSTANCE THAT WE DO NOT KNOW ABOUT....

..............If I am the jugde here, the story is missing vital details......

I agree. There's a lot missing from this story because it makes no sense, so far. But, it's a bait thread for the purpose of insulting Muslims, so making sense isn't the point of posting it.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

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Edited November 28, 2011 by Kathryn41

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

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az110965, here's your big chance to have Kathryn bust your cherry.

I agree. There's a lot missing from this story because it makes no sense, so far. But, it's a bait thread for the purpose of insulting Muslims, so making sense isn't the point of posting it.

Explain how.

[BobnCherry 10]

yup this should be interesting

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

yup this should be interesting

I took my Geritol so I'm ready.

[TBoneTX 43,059]

a PUBICALLY funded clinic

A-Bone, this fingergraphical error makes the thread completely worthwhile, see man!

[az110965 252]

I do everything on my own dime. You've missed the point and you're trying to change the topic, so you're not even arguing with me about something to win. Public health care doesn't preclude the option of having a male or a female treat you. If you can't grasp that, then you lost the debate a long time ago.

I'm not trying to change anything. Seems like all you want is a reason to complain. As I said before - if you are not happy with the current system start a fund and build a center that will cater especially to your needs.

The subject of the story was a man, not a woman.

The sublect of the story was yet again, a minority believing that they are entitled to "special" or different treatment than the norm. I could understand your position if the quality of care the MALE nure rendered was poor, but it wasn't. So - IMHO all you want is a reason to complain.

Hint, hint: She was talking about you.

Talking about me how? I never said anything to you that wasn't true.

Edited November 28, 2011 by az110965

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I'm not trying to change anything. Seems like all you want is a reason to complain. As I said before - if you are not happy with the current system start a fund and build a center that will cater especially to your needs.

What escapes you is that you're the one complaining about the current system, which allows patients to ask for a gender specific provider. You've made it clear that anyone who wants to be able to choose needs to build their own hospital. Well, they don't have to, so get over it.

The sublect of the story was yet again, a minority believing that they are entitled to "special" or different treatment than the norm. I could understand your position if the quality of care the MALE nure rendered was poor, but it wasn't. So - IMHO all you want is a reason to complain.

Again, asking for a male or a female care provider is not out of the norm. And, if there is a minority involved, it's the fired nurse, not the patients who outnumber him. You, like other here, just want another reason to complain about a non-Anglo, non-Christian minority, and there are plenty of threads like this one that provide that kind of opportunity. Feel better now that you can become outraged about something that doesn't even affect you? I'll bet you do.

Talking about me how? I never said anything to you that wasn't true.

You helped take the thread where there were no facts to support your rage, just to take a cheap shot at a minority regarding a story full of holes, you filled the blank spots in with negative stereotypes. Welcome to P&R. The Aryan boys will enjoy your company.

[az110965 252]

What escapes you is that you're the one complaining about the current system, which allows patients to ask for a gender specific provider. You've made it clear that anyone who wants to be able to choose needs to build their own hospital. Well, they don't have to, so get over it.

I'm over it because I couldn't care less. In MY community no one bitches and moans or asks for special considerations - religion or otherwise.

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Again, asking for a male or a female care provider is not out of the norm. And, if there is a minority involved, it's the fired nurse, not the patients who outnumber him. You, like other here, just want another reason to complain about a non-Anglo, non-Christian minority, and there are plenty of threads like this one that provide that kind of opportunity. Feel better now that you can become outraged about something that doesn't even affect you? I'll bet you do.

This has nothing to do with "non-Anglo" or non - "Anything". It boggles the mind when people automatically think they are entitled to preferential or different treatment than others. I understand your religious beliefs and don't have a problem with them, but if a certain sector of society wants something out of the ordinary then why does a "TAX SUPOPORTED" facility need to obglige? I like ESPN and next time I'm at my doctor's office he'd better have it on!

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You helped take the thread where there were no facts to support your rage, just to take a cheap shot at a minority regarding a story full of holes, you filled the blank spots in with negative stereotypes. Welcome to P&R. The Aryan boys will enjoy your company.

I didn't take the thread anywhere, and never took a cheap shot at ANY minority. Other Muslims have spoken up on this thread and have acted without the aniomisity you hold. Sara stated her opinion, had a sense of humor and explained her position - and NEVER said "I want" or "I'm entitled to"... Maybe you should learn from her.

Have an awesome day!

Edited November 28, 2011 by az110965

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I didn't take the thread anywhere, and never took a cheap shot at ANY minority. Other Muslims have spoken up on this thread and have acted without the aniomisity you hold. Sara stated her opinion, had a sense of humor and explained her position - and NEVER said "I want" or "I'm entitled to"... Maybe you should learn from her.

Have an awesome day!

Don't believe your own self-serving hype. Animosity is not required to disagree with you. You're the one complaining about minorities wanting special treatment, so, unless your evil twin posted, then it's you who went nasty for no reason. I'll compare you to you; read your own posts and learn something about how you write something, then deny you did, and try not to do that again coz you will be called out for it.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Don't believe your own self-serving hype. Animosity is not required to disagree with you. You're the one complaining about minorities wanting special treatment, so, unless your evil twin posted, then it's you who went nasty for no reason. I'll compare you to you; read your own posts and learn something about how you write something, then deny you did, and try not to do that again coz you will be called out for it.

What a shocker, Sofiyya starts the acrimonious baiting, seems like nothing changes on VJ.

[momof1 205]

I work in a large academic medical center that makes concessions for patients all of the time without any problem to staffing. A woman in the birthplace wants a female nurses assistant? We ask one of the female nurses assistants to attend to her while the male help another patient. I choose female doctors for my routine and specialty care and request not to have students/residents in the room unless they are female for "sensitive" procedures. I pay for my health insurance and for my portion of care not covered by them. I will not open my own hospital for the right to choose a female doctor/nurse/whatever when every patient has the same right to choose the gender of their providers. If there is only a male anesthesiologist then he does the job. If I need a surgery and only a male is available then I have the surgery. Anywhere there is a choice I will take it though.

Also, we make considerations for all groups when reasonable. Heck, we let a woman have a placenta that had been in formaldehyde after signing umpteen release forms even though we knew she wanted to eat it. All requests will be considered. Healthcare, whether you like it or not, is a business. There is nothing wrong with hospitals catering to their clientele in the interest of attracting more patients and making more money.

Edited November 28, 2011 by momof1

[justashooter 430]

... he should have understood that any local application of Sharia Law would directly affect his working environs,

FWIW, a doctor can't change local nursing policy - only the charge nurse or the head nurse can...

last i checked sharia law was not valid in USA. American law is king here.

as for nursing policy, well, that is dictated by the institution in which the nursing care is practiced, within the guidelines of accepted nursing practice. it is not dictated by a nursing supervisor or charge nurse.

this guy is in for a big payoff if he has a decent lawyer. in America nurses are not female or male. they are nurses, and i know, because i is one.

[justashooter 430]

Other Muslims have spoken up on this thread and have acted without the aniomisity you hold.

are we surprised about this?

[The_Dude 1,142]

last i checked sharia law was not valid in USA. American law is king here.

as for nursing policy, well, that is dictated by the institution in which the nursing care is practiced, within the guidelines of accepted nursing practice. it is not dictated by a nursing supervisor or charge nurse.

this guy is in for a big payoff if he has a decent lawyer. in America nurses are not female or male. they are nurses, and i know, because i is one.

Maybe you should have taken a few extra english language courses.