2nd time around different person

[timntuyen 0]

Hello All,

Sorry, just a quick recap before i get to my question. I applied for a K1 with someone from Viet Nam and she failed her interview, then a few months later a found she was cheating on me so i ended the relationship. I have now met a very wonderful Chinese lady and we have started talking about marriage. I know that we need to wait the 2 years before i can file again, this is not the issue. I have already been to china to meet her once. I was planning to return again in October or November for another visit, so initially we thought that the third visit would be maybe March of 2012 and we could marry then. The thinking was this would give us more time and three trips together, this might help with her interview. She now has some friends telling her that if i really love her that we should not wait and we should just go ahead and marry the second trip in November. They think the extra trip is just a waist of time and money. I do want to marry sooner rather than later, am i being overly cautious in waiting for the third trip? Any advise would be greatly appreciated.I want to be able to share with her all of thoughts of the visajourney members.

thank you

tim

[ScottThuy 140]

Its not thier life that you are dealing with.. its yours... HCMC has certain expectations and you know for a fact that this round is up hill already... these other people likely dont understand that doing things too fast can cause you two to have to deal with the consulate for an even longer time trying to be together... which is more important, being together ASAP or having a piece of paper that says that you are married ASAP?

[felo391971 4]

I wait 3 years to get marry and then started the process . NO NEED TO RUSH MY FRIEND.To work time is not important however yo rush eather.

If its going to work there shouldnt be any issue on wend to get marry.

Dont let anybody pressure the point .Is your life is there is lv the 3rd trip or 4th or 6th should as good a this one for the weeding

good luck

[TBoneTX 45,522]

(Your profile flag is still Vietnam, which has misled one respondent already, although his same advice could apply to your situation now.) I strongly recommend that you wait to hear from the VJ members who are knowledgeable about Guangzhou -- Darnell and pushbrk come to mind -- before deciding your course of action. One or both should be along soon, or maybe another experienced member.

Edited May 21, 2011 by TBoneTX

[Ryan H 3,812]

Tim, does your significant other live in China or Vietnam?

I agree with what felo has told you, don't rush anything, it's YOUR life, NOT theirs.

IMO, you should wait until the 3rd trip to get married if your significant other is from China. From what I have seen others post, CO's will likely look more favorably on the fact that you did not rush anything.

I wish you the best going forward.

Edited May 21, 2011 by Ryan H

[pushbrk 12,975]

Hello All,

Sorry, just a quick recap before i get to my question. I applied for a K1 with someone from Viet Nam and she failed her interview, then a few months later a found she was cheating on me so i ended the relationship. I have now met a very wonderful Chinese lady and we have started talking about marriage. I know that we need to wait the 2 years before i can file again, this is not the issue. I have already been to china to meet her once. I was planning to return again in October or November for another visit, so initially we thought that the third visit would be maybe March of 2012 and we could marry then. The thinking was this would give us more time and three trips together, this might help with her interview. She now has some friends telling her that if i really love her that we should not wait and we should just go ahead and marry the second trip in November. They think the extra trip is just a waist of time and money. I do want to marry sooner rather than later, am i being overly cautious in waiting for the third trip? Any advise would be greatly appreciated.I want to be able to share with her all of thoughts of the visajourney members.

thank you

tim

You're confused. There's no requirement or practical reason to wait. Fire when ready as far as conducting your relationship or marriage. It makes no difference if you marry on the first, second or third visit as long as you actually have and conduct a bona fide relationship that can also be documented. Of course, if you really love each other, you'll want to be together again in March of 2012 anyway. Right?

PS: The two year filing issue is for a fiancee and filing before the two years, just requires a couple extra sentences in a cover letter anyway.

[garfield529 47]

Push has already said what I would have said, the only thing I will add it to make sure you are transparent with your new gal about the previous K1 because the consulate will have that information and they will ask. If she doesn't know about it, you will probably get dinged. Not saying you would hid this, just saying to ensure transparency. Besides, the last thing you want is a Chinese wife who doesn't trust you. I know someone in that position and man-o-man....

[jnjune30 0]

As far as i Know and i asked the same thing, because i have only 6 months of relations ship with my fiance, and we are planning to get married on June 30 2012, by then we will have one year and 5 months of knowing of relation ship, that is counting since the day we met in person, if i count since we started dating it would be ,1 year and six months. And they told me that it does not matter, i could filed in for the K1, but i am a newbie on this things actually we are going to send the petition on the first days of this July. I am not so sure, they told here that it does not matter but well i will know for sure when i send the petition.

Good luck!!

blessing to all!!

nick&justin

[Gosia & Tito 199]

Hello All,

Sorry, just a quick recap before i get to my question. I applied for a K1 with someone from Viet Nam and she failed her interview, then a few months later a found she was cheating on me so i ended the relationship. I have now met a very wonderful Chinese lady and we have started talking about marriage. I know that we need to wait the 2 years before i can file again, this is not the issue. I have already been to china to meet her once. I was planning to return again in October or November for another visit, so initially we thought that the third visit would be maybe March of 2012 and we could marry then. The thinking was this would give us more time and three trips together, this might help with her interview. She now has some friends telling her that if i really love her that we should not wait and we should just go ahead and marry the second trip in November. They think the extra trip is just a waist of time and money. I do want to marry sooner rather than later, am i being overly cautious in waiting for the third trip? Any advise would be greatly appreciated.I want to be able to share with her all of thoughts of the visajourney members.

thank you

tim

Agree with posts here. First, there is no need or requirement to wait. On the other side, as well intentioned her friends might be, you do not need to rush or be pushed to do something you are not ready to. If you are ready to marry, congratulations; but if you are not, then you are doing the right thing.

I had similar a similar matter, tough my fiancee is Polish.

She has come to visit me and only after 1+ year that we were together is when the marriage was discussed. Not that we had not been thinking of it, but the fact is, you are uprooting someone and not only that but a marriage is a challenging situation already to have to add pressures and the cultural differences (that will come up, guarantee it); I have had many (virtually all the relationships I had were) several long distance + cross cultural relationships and this is the first time I am doing a K-1; One thing or another made the relationship end.

I saw another post earlier or yesterday in which it was noted that the time this process takes is the best test of a relationship, I agree 100% and I think many other will.

Good luck and best wishes!

[Shenzhen 34]

Speaking from experience I filed 2 k-'s one in 06 and one in 09. The first one failed her interview told the officer I was not in love with her and that I was committing marriage fraud.(Go FIGURE that one out)??? The 2nd one was only after me for money so I withdrew her petition. I had already purchased tickets to go see her in Manila in Nov. 09. I cancelled her petition in August 09. Went from Manila to Hong Kong met my wife in Shenzhen got married in Wuhan. It took us 15 months to get the interview see my timeline. I visited her 2 more times after we were married. Yes you can get married whenever you like. Did you with draw your petition yet? You will need an affidavit of single status sent into the China embassy. You can find all that stuff here.

My wife WAS NOT ASKED ABOUT THE PREVIOUS K-1'a at all. I did tell her about them. You can read my review of her interview too.

Edited May 21, 2011 by Shenzhen

[Darnell 8,478]

For a CR-1 visa, is no concept of 'waiting two years because of Prior K-1 visa on someone else'.

The Adam Walsh Act, and the Violence Against Women Act, pegged K-1 multiple filers that have filed a K-1 , specifically 2 or more K-1 visas, within a 2 year span. (Emphasis on within) It doesn't apply to CR-1/IR-1 visas - there's some supposition that YOUR WIFE trumps all silliness on any prior K-1 submittals (I-129F, K-1, etc)

But - you must report it on the I-130.

Since it's China, Guangzhou IV unit, they look HARD on visa fraud, and an Evolution of Relationship letter is useful (my example is at http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=260331&view=findpost&p=3995116 - and be prepared (and do) to write up letters of attestation on the prior K-1 filing, submit it with the I-130 petition on your spouse.

My rule of thumb for CR-1/IR-1 visas to Guangzhou IV - make 3 trips prior to interview day. Know the timeticks, and know all the steps between filing the I-130 to Interview Day (I've posted much about it here, these past 3 years)

'Some Friends' - - - if this equals 'users/members at the 001 BBS web portal' - ignore them. Happy to tell you why, later. For the nonce, ask yer lass, 'are these friends new from the 001 BBS, or not?'

So - read my words, twice or three times, map out yer plan of attack again, and post back ?!?!?!

Good Luck !

*** not a K-1 visa topic, moving to IR-1/CR-1 forum ***

Edited May 22, 2011 by Darnell

[pushbrk 12,975]

For a CR-1 visa, is no concept of 'waiting two years because of Prior K-1 visa on someone else'.

The Adam Walsh Act, and the Violence Against Women Act, pegged K-1 multiple filers that have filed a K-1 , specifically 2 or more K-1 visas, within a 2 year span. (Emphasis on within) It doesn't apply to CR-1/IR-1 visas - there's some supposition that YOUR WIFE trumps all silliness on any prior K-1 submittals (I-129F, K-1, etc)

Actually, it is IMBRA, not the Adam Walsh act or VAWA that imposes the filing limitation for the I-129F but the filing limitation is overcome with a couple sentences added to a cover letter. No filing limitations for spouse petitions provided no polygamy involved.