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Assalamu Alaykum And Hello!

I have an american friend who is currently communicating with a man from Syria.

She wants to marry him but is unsure as to how the Immigration process works.

He is due to begin his 2 year military duty and he tells her that marriage to her will allow him a way out of doing this duty. Is this true? Would she have to go to Syria to meet him or could she meet him in a third party country such as Turkey?

She plans to work in the UAE and then return to the US in the future. She is currently in the Uk,

Thanks.

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03/28/2011 (Day 19) Biometrics letter 4/8/2011
04/08/2011 (Day 30) Successful Biometrics for I-765/I-485
05/13/2011 (Day 65) EAD received in the mail
05/14/2011 (Day 66) Email confirming EAD approved (Case updated online TOUCH)
05/20/2011 (Day 72) SSN In the Mail.

09/08/2011 (Day 200 ) Email notification of Interview.
10/11/2011 Interview at 26 Federal Plaza, NY!
Interviewed and Am expecting RFEs!
10/13/2011 (Day ***) Received RFE-- Requesting that I provide documentation to prove I was never married in Uk or Illin
02/11/2012 (Day ***) Service request..Told its being reviewed by supervisor

24th March 2012!!!!!!!!!!! Email notifiying me of CARD IN PRODUCTION
03/26/2012 (Day 376) Emails confirming that my I-130 and I-485 have been approved.

4/2/2012 Green Card In Hand!

Unbelievable that my journey took this long but Im thankful

Next Stop Premed...Yup!

3/24/2014 Application for conditions to be removed

9/22/2014 APPROVED without interview.

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Tell her to come to VJ and do this: :guides:

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Tell her to come to VJ and do this: :guides:

She is not net friendly so hopefully someone will come and answer my question particularly as relates to the military service.

03/09/2011 AOS Application Sent.
03/11/2011 (Day 0) Application Received
03/16/2011 (Day 7) NOA 1 (Text Email)+ (Checks Cashed)
03/19/2011 (Day 10) Hard Copy of NOA 1
03/28/2011 (Day 19) Biometrics letter 4/8/2011
04/08/2011 (Day 30) Successful Biometrics for I-765/I-485
05/13/2011 (Day 65) EAD received in the mail
05/14/2011 (Day 66) Email confirming EAD approved (Case updated online TOUCH)
05/20/2011 (Day 72) SSN In the Mail.

09/08/2011 (Day 200 ) Email notification of Interview.
10/11/2011 Interview at 26 Federal Plaza, NY!
Interviewed and Am expecting RFEs!
10/13/2011 (Day ***) Received RFE-- Requesting that I provide documentation to prove I was never married in Uk or Illin
02/11/2012 (Day ***) Service request..Told its being reviewed by supervisor

24th March 2012!!!!!!!!!!! Email notifiying me of CARD IN PRODUCTION
03/26/2012 (Day 376) Emails confirming that my I-130 and I-485 have been approved.

4/2/2012 Green Card In Hand!

Unbelievable that my journey took this long but Im thankful

Next Stop Premed...Yup!

3/24/2014 Application for conditions to be removed

9/22/2014 APPROVED without interview.

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Assalamu Alaykum And Hello!

I have an american friend who is currently communicating with a man from Syria.

She wants to marry him but is unsure as to how the Immigration process works.

He is due to begin his 2 year military duty and he tells her that marriage to her will allow him a way out of doing this duty. Is this true? Would she have to go to Syria to meet him or could she meet him in a third party country such as Turkey?

She plans to work in the UAE and then return to the US in the future. She is currently in the Uk,

Thanks.

There is a lot going on in Syria right now, protesting and turmoil, i am not sure if it is safe for her to go there but also as a matter of fact there is only a few people in here that are dealing with Damascus consulate and knows about Syrian military

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not much hope in this case.

syrian man marrying a woman who can't even use the internet so that he can avoid compulsory military service? she doesn't have a USA address or a job? he needs to find another patsy.

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I do not know much as of syria. But my question would be why would he bring it up that it would get him out of military service unless he wants to use her for it. And yes women do get used a lot to advoid military in many countries. And if she does not use the internet much how does she communicate with this man?????

Assalamu Alaykum And Hello!

I have an american friend who is currently communicating with a man from Syria.

She wants to marry him but is unsure as to how the Immigration process works.

He is due to begin his 2 year military duty and he tells her that marriage to her will allow him a way out of doing this duty. Is this true? Would she have to go to Syria to meet him or could she meet him in a third party country such as Turkey?

She plans to work in the UAE and then return to the US in the future. She is currently in the Uk,

Thanks.

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or it could be that it was mentioned so they can establish plans and a timeline for their marriage. not having a years long military obligation would be like, a huge factor in setting up marriage plans between their families. it's not a clear cut sign of fraud by any means, and no one asked for opinions on that issue anyways.

since when are us citizens prohibited from filing visa apps for a fiancé or spouse just because they're not currently in the us?

as well, i'd like to know where one would find specific info about syrian military obligations on the vj guides. it's a

completely valid question, and the flippant post about using the guides for this kind of question was ridiculous.

re. the op's question, i do not know offhand, but i do work

with another nurse whose family is syrian, and she herself

went through the whole visa process with her husband, a syrian national. i will ask her when i see her at work next week if she knows anything about this issue.

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also, there's several people who have met in third countries, when the us citizen did not want to travel to libya or iran, etc, meeting in turkey, etc shouldn't be a problem.

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not much hope in this case.

syrian man marrying a woman who can't even use the internet so that he can avoid compulsory military service? she doesn't have a USA address or a job? he needs to find another patsy.

She can use the internet. She is not going to come to VJ. She has a job in the Uk working with the NHS. She also has leave to remain in the UK but I agree with the last point.I will break it to her gently.

I do not know much as of syria. But my question would be why would he bring it up that it would get him out of military service unless he wants to use her for it. And yes women do get used a lot to advoid military in many countries. And if she does not use the internet much how does she communicate with this man?????

She uses Skype. I said she wasnt net friendly, I didnt say she was useless.

03/09/2011 AOS Application Sent.
03/11/2011 (Day 0) Application Received
03/16/2011 (Day 7) NOA 1 (Text Email)+ (Checks Cashed)
03/19/2011 (Day 10) Hard Copy of NOA 1
03/28/2011 (Day 19) Biometrics letter 4/8/2011
04/08/2011 (Day 30) Successful Biometrics for I-765/I-485
05/13/2011 (Day 65) EAD received in the mail
05/14/2011 (Day 66) Email confirming EAD approved (Case updated online TOUCH)
05/20/2011 (Day 72) SSN In the Mail.

09/08/2011 (Day 200 ) Email notification of Interview.
10/11/2011 Interview at 26 Federal Plaza, NY!
Interviewed and Am expecting RFEs!
10/13/2011 (Day ***) Received RFE-- Requesting that I provide documentation to prove I was never married in Uk or Illin
02/11/2012 (Day ***) Service request..Told its being reviewed by supervisor

24th March 2012!!!!!!!!!!! Email notifiying me of CARD IN PRODUCTION
03/26/2012 (Day 376) Emails confirming that my I-130 and I-485 have been approved.

4/2/2012 Green Card In Hand!

Unbelievable that my journey took this long but Im thankful

Next Stop Premed...Yup!

3/24/2014 Application for conditions to be removed

9/22/2014 APPROVED without interview.

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not much hope in this case.

syrian man marrying a woman who can't even use the internet so that he can avoid compulsory military service? she doesn't have a USA address or a job? he needs to find another patsy.

or it could be that it was mentioned so they can establish plans and a timeline for their marriage. not having a years long military obligation would be like, a huge factor in setting up marriage plans between their families. it's not a clear cut sign of fraud by any means, and no one asked for opinions on that issue anyways.

since when are us citizens prohibited from filing visa apps for a fiancé or spouse just because they're not currently in the us?

as well, i'd like to know where one would find specific info about syrian military obligations on the vj guides. it's a

completely valid question, and the flippant post about using the guides for this kind of question was ridiculous.

re. the op's question, i do not know offhand, but i do work

with another nurse whose family is syrian, and she herself

went through the whole visa process with her husband, a syrian national. i will ask her when i see her at work next week if she knows anything about this issue.

I think this was meant in reference of showing ties to return to the US with the foreign spouse. When the US petitioner is living overseas (and in a different country to the foreign national) they must show an intent to domicile. A US address or a job in the US are two ways of showing that intent to re-establish domicile. Also, returning to the US.

Is your friends ultimate goal to marry and return to the US with her husband? If so, it might help her to return there now. If they just wish to get married so he can avoid the military and then live separately or in the UK, then it is a different story. I do think it would be best for your friend to join the site because more information would be needed if she wanted to get detailed help.

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or it could be that it was mentioned so they can establish plans and a timeline for their marriage. not having a years long military obligation would be like, a huge factor in setting up marriage plans between their families. it's not a clear cut sign of fraud by any means, and no one asked for opinions on that issue anyways.

since when are us citizens prohibited from filing visa apps for a fiancé or spouse just because they're not currently in the us?

as well, i'd like to know where one would find specific info about syrian military obligations on the vj guides. it's a

completely valid question, and the flippant post about using the guides for this kind of question was ridiculous.

re. the op's question, i do not know offhand, but i do work

with another nurse whose family is syrian, and she herself

went through the whole visa process with her husband, a syrian national. i will ask her when i see her at work next week if she knows anything about this issue.

Thanks soo much. She is not planning on living in the US right away. She is planning on moving to Dubai but obviously she wants to make sure that down the line, if she marries him, that she does everything the right way,

03/09/2011 AOS Application Sent.
03/11/2011 (Day 0) Application Received
03/16/2011 (Day 7) NOA 1 (Text Email)+ (Checks Cashed)
03/19/2011 (Day 10) Hard Copy of NOA 1
03/28/2011 (Day 19) Biometrics letter 4/8/2011
04/08/2011 (Day 30) Successful Biometrics for I-765/I-485
05/13/2011 (Day 65) EAD received in the mail
05/14/2011 (Day 66) Email confirming EAD approved (Case updated online TOUCH)
05/20/2011 (Day 72) SSN In the Mail.

09/08/2011 (Day 200 ) Email notification of Interview.
10/11/2011 Interview at 26 Federal Plaza, NY!
Interviewed and Am expecting RFEs!
10/13/2011 (Day ***) Received RFE-- Requesting that I provide documentation to prove I was never married in Uk or Illin
02/11/2012 (Day ***) Service request..Told its being reviewed by supervisor

24th March 2012!!!!!!!!!!! Email notifiying me of CARD IN PRODUCTION
03/26/2012 (Day 376) Emails confirming that my I-130 and I-485 have been approved.

4/2/2012 Green Card In Hand!

Unbelievable that my journey took this long but Im thankful

Next Stop Premed...Yup!

3/24/2014 Application for conditions to be removed

9/22/2014 APPROVED without interview.

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Classic example of confusion arising from second hand info.

In your first post you mention immigrating, now that is not an issue so all answers were irrelevant.

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I googled it and the only thing I can find about Syrian military service and foreign spouses is that if the Syrian man lives abroad, he can pay to not have to do military service. From www.state.gov: "For persons who do not meet the above criteria, but who reside abroad, the fee for exemption from military service is $6,500." So I guess if they were to marry and he goes to live with her in the UK (find a UK immigration website to find out how difficult that would be), that would apply.

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I think this was meant in reference of showing ties to return to the US with the foreign spouse. When the US petitioner is living overseas (and in a different country to the foreign national) they must show an intent to domicile. A US address or a job in the US are two ways of showing that intent to re-establish domicile. Also, returning to the US.

Is your friends ultimate goal to marry and return to the US with her husband? If so, it might help her to return there now. If they just wish to get married so he can avoid the military and then live separately or in the UK, then it is a different story. I do think it would be best for your friend to join the site because more information would be needed if she wanted to get detailed help.

Yes that is her ultimate goal. UAE is a place she is considering but she is as likley to settle in Hawaii. She has sizeable assets that would enable her to marry him and be a sponsor. She is just looking for some clarification particularly about the ease of this with the military service issue. I will ask her to join.

Classic example of confusion arising from second hand info.

In your first post you mention immigrating, now that is not an issue so all answers were irrelevant.

Or classic case of people just not bothering to read and then making a comment that adds nothing to the equation at all.

I googled it and the only thing I can find about Syrian military service and foreign spouses is that if the Syrian man lives abroad, he can pay to not have to do military service. From www.state.gov: "For persons who do not meet the above criteria, but who reside abroad, the fee for exemption from military service is $6,500." So I guess if they were to marry and he goes to live with her in the UK (find a UK immigration website to find out how difficult that would be), that would apply.

Thank you sooo much. Living in the UK is not going to happen, I bet that $6500 will be a huge stop for her. Can not say Im sad. Again thanks

03/09/2011 AOS Application Sent.
03/11/2011 (Day 0) Application Received
03/16/2011 (Day 7) NOA 1 (Text Email)+ (Checks Cashed)
03/19/2011 (Day 10) Hard Copy of NOA 1
03/28/2011 (Day 19) Biometrics letter 4/8/2011
04/08/2011 (Day 30) Successful Biometrics for I-765/I-485
05/13/2011 (Day 65) EAD received in the mail
05/14/2011 (Day 66) Email confirming EAD approved (Case updated online TOUCH)
05/20/2011 (Day 72) SSN In the Mail.

09/08/2011 (Day 200 ) Email notification of Interview.
10/11/2011 Interview at 26 Federal Plaza, NY!
Interviewed and Am expecting RFEs!
10/13/2011 (Day ***) Received RFE-- Requesting that I provide documentation to prove I was never married in Uk or Illin
02/11/2012 (Day ***) Service request..Told its being reviewed by supervisor

24th March 2012!!!!!!!!!!! Email notifiying me of CARD IN PRODUCTION
03/26/2012 (Day 376) Emails confirming that my I-130 and I-485 have been approved.

4/2/2012 Green Card In Hand!

Unbelievable that my journey took this long but Im thankful

Next Stop Premed...Yup!

3/24/2014 Application for conditions to be removed

9/22/2014 APPROVED without interview.

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Yes that is her ultimate goal. UAE is a place she is considering but she is as likley to settle in Hawaii. She has sizeable assets that would enable her to marry him and be a sponsor. She is just looking for some clarification particularly about the ease of this with the military service issue. I will ask her to join.

Or classic case of people just not bothering to read and then making a comment that adds nothing to the equation at all.

Thank you sooo much. Living in the UK is not going to happen, I bet that $6500 will be a huge stop for her. Can not say Im sad. Again thanks

My husband is Syrian, and moved to Saudi Arabia to avoid military obligation. He did pay that fee and I know alot of his family and friends are living in the Gulf area to avoid Military service. I don't know how easy it would be for your friend's fiance to obtain a visa to a Gulf country with the current situation in Syria. It's worth a try. I know when my husband got his visa it was pretty easy for him.

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