Second Fiance Visa Question

[Janine&Scott 5]

So there is no other way then?

Thank to all for the answers by the way.

No, you're shooting yourself in the foot in multiple ways by not wanting to tell her or potentially not telling her.

1) At some point you will have to send her the I129F packet you sent in which will have had to include your divorce decree.

2) If you don't send that part to her she is likely to be denied because she doesn't have the original document.

3) Alternatively, if they don't ask for the decree they are likely to ask her questions about it.

4) Let's face it - it's going to be a topic of conversation that the CO WILL bring up. Multiple marriages from the same country ring alarm bells.

All other visa processes are going to require this disclosure. In fact don't even bother going through with this if you have issues disclosing that piece of information because as you should know that is the very least of the information that she will be made privy to. It's a highly intrusive process and she needs to be armed with as much personal info from you as you can think of.

[John245 0]

To tell you the truth, I hate that the government goes through all of your personal information and are so intrusive that I got nervous through that whole process. Who are they to tell me why I am supposed to be with someone or why I broke up or whatever? Let's just say I did not want to be anymore with the person from before and that's it, nothing more. Now my relationship with my girlfriend is genuine and we have been together almost 3 years, almost the whole time. Out of those 3 years, I've been in the U.S. only about 6 months. But maybe I will not go through the process.

Anyways, would she have a chance to come into the U.S. as a tourist at least for a few months?

[Janine&Scott 5]

Only if she can prove it's for tourist purposes and that she had strong ties at home.

The government has every right to that information when you are making an application for someone to essentially immigrate. They have to protect their citizens as a whole and ensure that you are not attempting to marry people for money. Sucks but there you have it.

It sounds like you don't want to tell her something really important about your past so maybe you need to rethink the whole situation mho.

[thelastpetitioner 218]

john,its not about the visa,its about her,and her right to know.how would you react if you were in her choose?the beneficiary,you go in for the interview,everything goes well and as the last question they ask about your fiance's past?about the ex and the marriage and all?not only it will change her view about you,but also she will most likely mess up at the interview majorly.

if it was a young flame thing,she will understand.

as far as tourist visa goes,she has to show strong ties to macedonia,strong ties as in having obligations to a company to return as an employee type of strong ties.

just FYI,entering the country on a tourist visa with the intention of getting married and adjusting the status is fraud

[baron555 934]

I do have my reasons for that, because it was kind of a thing that no one knew about. I really was not ready for something like that at the time but it happened and it was a mistake.

How about if I were to marry in Macedonia and then get a spouse visa, a K-3 is it? What are the procedures for this?

AND.....she needs to know about all those children that you fathered.....and....and those felony crimes that you committed.

It has nothing to do with your private life. Immgration is not a constitutional right, it is a privledge. If you don't like the rules, then you move to her country and have a nice life.

They will tell her about all this at whateve interview she will very much have to go to.

If you need to be so secretive, then you shouldn't burden her with your past.

Edited November 11, 2010 by baron555

[John245 0]

Thank you for the answers.

[pepper 34]

If it has been MORE than two years since your last visa was approved, yes, no problem.

You MUST list ALL your previous marriages and divorces on the I-129f and you must be divorced, free to marry, to file. I would not even consider going into this without telling her ALL about your former wife. It is VERY likely the consulate at the interview will ask her "So what do you think about being his second wife from Macedonia?" or some such. It would NOT be good if that was the first she heard of it.

I PROMISE you, you WILL NOT get through this process without her finding out. Between the petition, the visa interview or the AOS SOMEONE is going to bring it up. YOU should be the one to tell her.

Agreed! I was asked about my husband's(then fiance) ex-wife(she's an American) and the reason why they got divorced by the CO during my K1 process.It will definitely come up,might not be on her visa interview but there's still her AOS,ROC and the citizenhip application.Honesty is still the best policy after all.

Goodluck !!

Edited November 11, 2010 by earp

[Fandango 1,439]

John, I don't truly understand why you're so hesitant to tell her - if it was all chalked up to 'bad mistake/whatever'....to say 'oh I may not go through with the process now' means what? You want to keep this such a secret, that you're willing to change your life to protect it? I truly don't understand that.

Saying that, if I were engaged to a man, been with him for 3 years, and didn't know he was previously married - I'm sure at some point the past was discussed - I'd be hella pissed off and I would probably rethink my engagement.

You are in a pickle, my friend. Do the right thing.

[yassinerabat1 14]

Also, I do not want her to find out that I was married to the first one. Will I have to answer any questions to Immigration about the first time throughout the process?

Thanks in advance.

nice begining for a relationship, anyways what if in her interview the consular ask her: why your fiance has divorced his first macedonian wife? she will answer: he never been married to a macedonian woman before. you go to have the biggest red flag ever give, im pretty sur she will be asked this question, cuz the consular will got the question from your case, and you are divorced you gonna be forced to send them your divorce pepers, anyways i dunno why you wont tell her about your first wife, if she will leave you knowing that so she never deserve you, im so sorry to say that but its the truth.

[CoffeeMuse 5]

The info regarding previous marriages is pretty basic relationship stuff and is usually covered early whan a couple gets together. Most people understand things often don't work out so its not a deal breaker; it's a part of the background of many people. Occasionally there are men or women who, for some reason want to marry a person who was never married and that is important to them. If the original poster has that kind of a situation, then... well, others have already commented more or less to this.

[Kristy S 13]

i think after this much time he's screwed either way. unless the fiance is a complete dolt, she will be majorly furious that he has been hiding a previous marriage for this long, ESPECIALLY if it meant "nothing", because then what was the point of even hiding it at all?

obviously there is something to it, or you wouldn't live in another country rather than tell her.

[sachinky 464]

You're not marrying some American blonde chick you met at the local bar or at a neighborhood ice-cream social.

You're seeking the permission of the U.S. government to let in a foreigner. From Macedonia. And you were once married to another woman from there. Who also came in on a K-1 visa.

Immigration is not a constitutionally protected right. It is a privilege accorded to you, as a USC, to have your SO live permanently in the US simply because you fell in love with them. Your SO, who, one day will probably become a USC as well. So yes, it is very much the concern and business of the US government to protect themselves from potential fraudsters and other threats to itself and its citizens.

Frankly, you're stuck between a rock and a hard place. I know what I'd do if I found out that the fiance I had been in a loving relationship for three years had been previously married and I was blissfully unware of that salient point. I also know what I'd do if a Consular Officer chose to reveal this very pertinent fact at a visa interview right before I was supposed to move across seas for a man I was supposedly in a sincere, committed relationship with.

Edited November 12, 2010 by sachinky

[Aztec&Taino 144]

I have a question if anyone can answer it...

I had a fiance visa for the first time with a girlfriend that came to the US and lived with me for about 2 years and we were married there, she got her green card and after that we didnt get along and she did not want to live there, we divorced and she went back to the country and has not gone back to the US since and does not even plan to and I don't think she can anymore since the green card is probably not valid anymore.

That was around 3 years ago. Now I have another girlfriend from the same country and I would like to know whether I could again apply for a fiance visa for her..is this possible? Would I have any problems?

Also, I do not want her to find out that I was married to the first one. Will I have to answer any questions to Immigration about the first time throughout the process?

Thanks in advance.

If you are now legally divorced, you are free to file for the K1 visa and marry again.

But, what's up with not wanting your current fiancee (the petition is for fiance(e)s, "not for boyfriends or girlfriends") to know that you were married before? Shouldn't marriages be based on a foundation of trust and honesty? Furthermore, in the interview the consul will be likely to ask her if you have been married before. If you lie to her and she says, "no, he has not been married before" (based on the information you have given her), then she might fail her interview because USCIS and the consulate would know that you, in fact, have been married! Yet, she would not know and that would be a tough way to find out...

[Aztec&Taino 144]

To tell you the truth, I hate that the government goes through all of your personal information and are so intrusive that I got nervous through that whole process. Who are they to tell me why I am supposed to be with someone or why I broke up or whatever? Let's just say I did not want to be anymore with the person from before and that's it, nothing more. Now my relationship with my girlfriend is genuine and we have been together almost 3 years, almost the whole time. Out of those 3 years, I've been in the U.S. only about 6 months. But maybe I will not go through the process.

Anyways, would she have a chance to come into the U.S. as a tourist at least for a few months?

This is confusing. You say you have been with her for almost 3 years, but you might not want to go through the process and just want her to visit the US? Do you or do you not want to be with her? If you don't like the government to go "through all of your personal information" you could choose to marry an American and you would not have to go through any of this... Listen, nobody likes the process. It is lengthy, expensive, nerve-wrecking, etc. Yet, these are the rules of the game and we need to follow it if we want to play it.

Best wishes!

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

To tell you the truth, I hate that the government goes through all of your personal information and are so intrusive that I got nervous through that whole process. Who are they to tell me why I am supposed to be with someone or why I broke up or whatever? Let's just say I did not want to be anymore with the person from before and that's it, nothing more. Now my relationship with my girlfriend is genuine and we have been together almost 3 years, almost the whole time. Out of those 3 years, I've been in the U.S. only about 6 months. But maybe I will not go through the process.

Anyways, would she have a chance to come into the U.S. as a tourist at least for a few months?

I hate it too. Tell her or end the relationship. If you do not tell her, they WILL. When they DO and it is a big surprise, her visa will be denied as they will not condsider the relationship genuine and she will end it because you lied to her and her visa got denied.

Your choice. Tell her now, or someone else tells her later. You can marry a woman in the US and no one will tell her anything except you and you can do it tomrrow. No visa needed.

If you have been with this woman this long, then I would imagine there is little you can tell her that would break the deal. After all, she already knows what a good guy you are and she isn't going to let that opportunity pass just because some other stupid Macedonian woman did. You ex-wife's loss is her gain. Right?