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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: France
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Hi......I was just wondering...is it possible to do a civil ceremony in the petitioners country before the K1 visa is approved? I'm going to visit my fiancé at the end of august and we were thinking it would be nice to do a civil ceremony for his family there. Of course we wouldn't want to mess up the processing of our K1, so if it would we definitely wouldn't do it. We are already planning our big wedding ceremony for next year august, but since we'd have to do a civil wedding before that when he initial gets here....we thought why not in France too!


05/05/2010 - Mailed I-129F

05/06/2010 - Check cashed

05/11/2010 - NOA 1 Hard Copy

07/12/2010 - NOA 2 Hard Copy

07/20/2010 - NVC letter received

07/30/2010 - Packet 3 received from embassy in France

08/16/2010 - Packet 3 returned to embassy

08/27/2010 - Interview date received!!!!!!

09/20/2010 - Medical Exam

09/22/2010 - Interview!!!!!

09/28/2010 - Approved! VISA IN HAND!!!!!!!

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: India
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Anything that is seen as a "wedding" can make you have to start all over if the U.S. Consulate/Embassy finds out about it. Then they will tell you to file for some other benefit such as K3. An engagment party or ceremony might be a better choice. Good luck and happy journey to you both!


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Met online: 2005-08

Met in person the first time: 2007-11-11 <3

2008

December I-129F Sent: 2008-12-18 | I-129F NOA1: 2008-12-24

2009

April Our baby is born: 2009-04 <3<3<3

May CRBA* Interview: 2009-05 *Consular Report of Birth Abroad

July I-129F NOA2 : 2009-07-08 | NVC Received:2009-07-17 | Baby & Mommy returned to the U.S. 2009-07-20

August Consulate Received : 2009-08-06

September Packet 3 Received : 2009-09-09

Notified Case will be transfered: 2009-9-10

October Case transfered from New Delhi to Mumbai 2009-10-23 | Packet 3 received FROM MUMBAI: 2009-10-31

November Packet 3 Returned to Mumbai: 2009-11-03 | Packet 4/Interview Letter Received by EMAIL: 2009-11-23 | Documents Submitted: 2009-11-30

December Interview: 2009-12-09 (Result: 221g - Get joint sponsor)

2010

January -Joint Sponsor Documents Submitted- | Visa Issued :)2010-01

February Arrived in U.S. 2010-02 :) <3 | Married: 2010-02 <3

April Filed AOS(Rec. by USCIS): 2010-04-23

June Biometrics Appointment: 2010-06-02 | RFE: 2010-06-02 Request for copy of foreign BC;

Evidence Rec. by USCIS- 2010-06-07 | Denied*- 2010-06-08 :(*Due ultimately to USCIS error/claims foreign BC is translation

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Anything that is seen as a "wedding" can make you have to start all over if the U.S. Consulate/Embassy finds out about it. Then they will tell you to file for some other benefit such as K3. An engagment party or ceremony might be a better choice. Good luck and happy journey to you both!

This is true -- and be very careful that any photos or evidence of this event that you provide to the consulate at the interview will NOT even remotely appear to be a wedding. This has gotten people into big trouble in other countries.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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If you will be married at the end of it then you are no longer a fiance and no longer qualify for the visa, simple as that.


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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Basically...you can do anything that doesn't cause you to be married legally. However, if the consulate/embassy finds out about it (through pictures or mentioning it in the interview, for example), they may be suspicious that it was a real wedding and deny the visa application.

Whether you choose to take the risk is up to you. Personally, I would probably do it if that was my plan and make sure all photos and evidence of it were kept to a minimum and private.


Met: December 2009

Married: April 2015

Received CR-1 visa: February 2017

POE (as IR-1): 2017-04-13

Received 10 year GC: 2017-05-20

 

N400: Detroit Field Office

Filed N400 online: 2020-01-14

Received Biometrics appt letter: 2020-01-18

Biometrics appt: 2020-02-04

Interview notice received: 2020-10-05

Interview date: 2020-11-09

Oath ceremony: 2020-11-20

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Colombia
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Hi......I was just wondering...is it possible to do a civil ceremony in the petitioners country before the K1 visa is approved? I'm going to visit my fiancé at the end of august and we were thinking it would be nice to do a civil ceremony for his family there. Of course we wouldn't want to mess up the processing of our K1, so if it would we definitely wouldn't do it. We are already planning our big wedding ceremony for next year august, but since we'd have to do a civil wedding before that when he initial gets here....we thought why not in France too!

Don't do it!

A civil ceremony in France most certainly creates a legal marriage that is automatically recognized by the U.S. (sometimes, in some countries, there's a "grey area" regarding religious ceremonies.) This will automatically void any K-1 in process and you'll be required to start again using the CR-1(?) process (married < 2 years.) Even if it worked, and you had no problems at the POE, you don't want any immigration troubles later, even years later, based upon violating the conditions of the K-1. To me, it wouldn't be worth the risk..

Isn't France a Visa Waiver Country? It would be far safer (and, if it is a VWP country, relatively easy) for his family to travel to the US for the "big" ceremony.


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Feb. 12, 2016 - Sent N-400 to USCIS (3-year rule)

Feb. 19, 2016 - NOA1

Mar. 14, 2016 - Biometrics

June 2, 2016 - Interview - Recommended for Approval

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: France
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Thanks everyone for your replies. We're not even going to risk it, it was just an idea to keep the families involved in every aspect. His family in France will be here for the ceremony next year anyway so it's not a big deal. We would rather move forward and not have to start the process allover again. Thanks again for the speedy replies.


05/05/2010 - Mailed I-129F

05/06/2010 - Check cashed

05/11/2010 - NOA 1 Hard Copy

07/12/2010 - NOA 2 Hard Copy

07/20/2010 - NVC letter received

07/30/2010 - Packet 3 received from embassy in France

08/16/2010 - Packet 3 returned to embassy

08/27/2010 - Interview date received!!!!!!

09/20/2010 - Medical Exam

09/22/2010 - Interview!!!!!

09/28/2010 - Approved! VISA IN HAND!!!!!!!

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