Has anyone ever been successful in starting investigation about fraud resident spouse?

[zeeshan123 1]

I just want general information from any of the members who have any knowledge about following

1--- has any US spouse ever been successful in starting investigation (by USCIS/ICE/DHS) about fraudulent marriage

by permanent/conditional resident spouse? Let us know if u know anyone in your friends etc.

2--- what were the results of such investigation?

this could be helpful to many members who found themselves in sham marriage after

doing so much for their spouses and bringing them to US.

[thongd4me 69]

I just want general information from any of the members who have any knowledge about following

1--- has any US spouse ever been successful in starting investigation (by USCIS/ICE/DHS) about fraudulent marriage

by permanent/conditional resident spouse? Let us know if u know anyone in your friends etc.

2--- what were the results of such investigation?

this could be helpful to many members who found themselves in sham marriage after

doing so much for their spouses and bringing them to US.

I realized my first marriage was a sham early on but I was unrealistically optimistic that she

would turn around and not see me as the enemy when I supported her well and never cheated.

By the time I realized that hoping she would turn around was a waste of time, she already

had a 10-year green card. There's nothing anyone could do after that, unless the evidence

was one regarding terrorist activity.

There's a legal term called "condonation" which means that after X amount of years the

divorce process assumes that one party has condoned the behavior of the other if no action

has been taken against the other.

For example, if one claims that the other refused to have sex (refusal to have sex being

grounds for divorce), the other could say that they didn't have sex for more than 5 years

and such acceptance of the status quo is considered condonation, therefore rendering

those grounds inadmissible.

After the Non-USC party has been a permanent resident for 5 years or longer, I believe

that they can file for removal of conditions on their own, with or without consent of the USC.

After 5 years evidence of a sham marriage would be inadmissible in any such investigation.

Edited May 1, 2010 by thongd4me

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Just a quick correction to the above information:

After the Non-USC party has been a permanent resident for 5 years or longer, I believe

that they can file for removal of conditions on their own, with or without consent of the USC.

The non-USC partner must apply to remove conditions during the 90 day window of time before the first, two year green card expires, not after 5 years . If they don't file by that time and the green card expires, they have lost their permanent residence status. If the marriage has broken down, however, they can file to remove conditions requesting a 'waiver' from the joint filing requirement. They need to provide evidence of why they are requesting the waiver - most often that evidence is a divorce document.

Once they have been a permanent resident for 5 years they can apply for US citizenship whether they are still married to their US petitioner or not. I suspect this is what Throngd4me was thinking about - citizenship, not the removal of conditions.

[Brad and Vika 129]

I just want general information from any of the members who have any knowledge about following

1--- has any US spouse ever been successful in starting investigation (by USCIS/ICE/DHS) about fraudulent marriage

by permanent/conditional resident spouse? Let us know if u know anyone in your friends etc.

2--- what were the results of such investigation?

this could be helpful to many members who found themselves in sham marriage after

doing so much for their spouses and bringing them to US.

There were some threads a few months back about a USC trying to annul his marriage and get his wife deported. I can't remember the details, like where they were in the process, and most of the threads were locked because of the sh1tstorm of responses (the guy was a real goofball). Actually there were two, one for a Russian, one for a Moldovan beneficiary, if that helps, and the consensus seemed to be that she were vulnerable to deportation, he was more vulnerable to VAWA abuse charges - even if he had evidence that she was sleeping around, working illegally, or anything else.

[Boiler 43,600]

Lots of people have asked the same question.

I can only remember seeing one case where there was an actual deportation reported.

[zeeshan123 1]

@ boiler

can u remember the details? what was the proof that USC presented?

I remember a case when an indian permenent GC holder was deported

as he and his USC wife were devorced after he gor IR1 visa from indian embassy and

before his entry in US.

and another case in which LPR' s wife found out about his previous marriage,

which he didnt mention to her or in immigration forms. his GC was revoked and

hewas deported.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Member Leedah got her husband here and he promptly beat the --- out of her and ended up in jail. She filed charges and divorce papers and he is in deportation proceedings.

[thongd4me 69]

Just a quick correction to the above information:

The non-USC partner must apply to remove conditions during the 90 day window of time before the first, two year green card expires, not after 5 years . If they don't file by that time and the green card expires, they have lost their permanent residence status. If the marriage has broken down, however, they can file to remove conditions requesting a 'waiver' from the joint filing requirement. They need to provide evidence of why they are requesting the waiver - most often that evidence is a divorce document.

Once they have been a permanent resident for 5 years they can apply for US citizenship whether they are still married to their US petitioner or not. I suspect this is what Throngd4me was thinking about - citizenship, not the removal of conditions.

Yes that's what I meant, citizenship would also be an option.

In her case she is still not a citizen but she can renew her 10 year GC without any input from me.

Removal of conditions happens just before the 2yr GC has run it's course.

[JerryP 2]

this could be helpful to many members who found themselves in sham marriage after

doing so much for their spouses and bringing them to US.

Do you think it's even worth it? The high majority of these people are so in love they will say "That may be true of other people, but MY relationship is real". They'll continue to say this even when the spouse has them sleeping on the couch or is spending all of their time with relatives. Even when the spouse wants to get a place of their own and make their own money (while still telling the US citizen "we just need time apart") , these people will still insist it's just "temporary". I base this on what I have heard and what I read on these boards.

Some people STILL won't even admit they are being used for a green card once the evidence is staring them in the face and the red flags are popping up all over.

It can happen to ANY ONE OF US, unfortunately. Some people are very good actors/actresses.

But good luck with the thread, if it helps even one person, it's worth it.

[Leedah 22]

Hi all.

Well, I can say that my ex is due to go to his Master Calendar Deportation hearing on May 18th.

I'll let you know if he get's the boot out of here soon.

Sad thing is, I heard that he has acted a fool with other women after me (they post about him online and I even spoke with one when I was getting divorced for the divorce case. The woman said he was a nutcase and volunteered to speak with the immigration. I think she actually did and it helped. I feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with him (and I mean anyone...even store clerks hahaha)

One lady is currently in jail from dealing with him. Obviously she was duped into fighting him back when he probably hit her for some reason or another. She went to jail. I don't know the woman,...but I know in my heart what that poor woman probably went through and now SHE is in jail. He most likely planned it to look like a victim in immigration court. (shaking head). i can see it now, call the police to report a crazy woman (while she aint looking and probably just chillen on the couch watching tv), he picks a quick fight just to show her fighting him when the police roll up. Real nice.

Anyway, I'll you all know what happens with this.

[Leedah 22]

I'm getting messages on how to notify USCIS for their frauds.

All I can really say that I did was devote a part of your day to getting the word out to them. Granted I did mine to make sure he never harmed anyone again through violence and that type of flagrant bigamy and fraud. It's one thing to have a marriage simply not make it. In those instances, I say let it go, heal yourself and be happy as time goes on. I don't suggest pulling the "immigration fraud" card if your spouse didn't do much to you and you just grew apart. They are people just like you and deserve a good life and success, no matter where in the world it is. But if they are a threat to the general public, by ALL means, GET.THEM.OUT.OF.HERE.

I called ICE and made reports several times, wrote letters to USCIS and included everything (including criminal reports) and fraud evidence, went to Infopass appointments and also actually made an appointment at the USCIS headquarters and spoke with a fraud specialist.

Leedah

[Brad and Vika 129]

I'm getting messages on how to notify USCIS for their frauds.

All I can really say that I did was devote a part of your day to getting the word out to them. Granted I did mine to make sure he never harmed anyone again through violence and that type of flagrant bigamy and fraud. It's one thing to have a marriage simply not make it. In those instances, I say let it go, heal yourself and be happy as time goes on. I don't suggest pulling the "immigration fraud" card if your spouse didn't do much to you and you just grew apart. They are people just like you and deserve a good life and success, no matter where in the world it is. But if they are a threat to the general public, by ALL means, GET.THEM.OUT.OF.HERE.

I called ICE and made reports several times, wrote letters to USCIS and included everything (including criminal reports) and fraud evidence, went to Infopass appointments and also actually made an appointment at the USCIS headquarters and spoke with a fraud specialist.

Leedah

Kudos to you for having the courage to go the distance with the authorities. As we read here all the time, ICE often doesn't have the motivation to actually chase down (figuratively or literally) and deport even the most flagrant illegals - let alone those who initially arrived with the correct paper. I do also think that in cases where the USC was clearly deceived, and spouse really was stringing the USC along, taking some of the steps you did is appropriate. Even when there is no criminal behavior beyond a little fraud, the non-USC party does not deserve a free ticket.