NEED ADVISE/ EXPERIENCE!!!!!

[skemper19 0]

Many of you have read my topic about my fiance being denied due to lack of evidence.

Well, in short, he went to the interview, was asked a bunch of questions, showed lots of evidence and then was DENIED, and the Consular Officer said it was due to lack of evidence but then gave him no paperwork, no chance to come back with more evidence (which from what I understand is usual when the CO believes there is not enough evidence). So, after a few days of crying and reading up on all of your advise and help. I sent a letter to the Supervisory Consular Officer (actually two letters, in the past two days) urging him to review our case and at the very least allow us to come back with more evidence. Well, out of the blue, my fiance and I were talking just now and decided to call the Consulate and ask why he wasn't given any paper when he left. They ended up giving him another interview date (according to the person at the Consulate) for August 1 at 1:00 p.m. told him to bring all of the paperwork he had originally brought, plus the more evidence (Oh, boy, they asked for it - I have thousands of e-mails and lots of pictures)...... has anyone heard of this? Could this be that the CO was SUPPOSED to give him a paper with the allowance to return at another time with more evidence? Has anyone heard of this or had this experience???? PLEASE TELL ME ALL!!!!!!!!! Do you think my letters might have worked and they are giving us another opportunity???? PLEASE TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS!!!!!!

This time, I will be there with him in that case... it is an unexpected expense but at the very least it could make or break our case. Correct? PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS!!!!!!

[kitkat1 5]

That's great news.

You may want to try sending a PM to yzuniga here on VJ or on immigrate2us.net - she had a similar experience in Ciudad Juarez and maybe she can give you some insight. GOOD LUCK!

[Mew 0]

Also, try and post your questions on the Foreign Consulate forum. Or maybe the regional forum?

Best of luck! It's already great news that they've scheduled another interview. Fingers crossed for you guys.

[Japple 0]

If you don't mind me asking,

what was the evidence that you provided? We are going into our interview in a week, and I would really like to know what the embassy saw, and why they would react that way.

Either way, I really wish you the best, and I am sure that you will overcome the objections of the embassy. It is such a shame that a relationship must be reviewed by a governmental agency. I mean, who else has to go through this @#$# in their lives.

Good luck, and hopefully we can give you some more advice.

[skemper19 0]

Thanks so much for your well wishes!!!!

Well, in the original petition we had about 7 photos, about 6 e-mails (translated), copy of my passport showing that I had been there (proof of meeting in the last two years), and the receipts for the airline tickets I had bought for the next two trips, my cell phone bills.

At the interview he brought, more photos (about 10 more), western union receipts (me t him for our savings account), receipts from a service I use to send packages to him, more phone records, more e-mails (about 10). my boarding passes for the next trip I made down there. A quote on our wedding dinner. I think that was it, but it was alot.

I would suggest to you that you bring EVERYTHING, and if you can be there, BE THERE!!!!!!!! This time, they are asking for evidence, they are going to get every single e-mail, photo, EVERYTHING!! And I'm talking thousands of e-mails........ and I will be there with him!!!!!

[Tim and Bethanie 1]

Skemper, so happy to see you have another interview. Wishing you the best of luck!

Bethanie

[zauberblume 0]

It seems to me as if you presented an adequate amount of evidence the first time around. At least, in my experience on this board reading other cases, a lot of people presented the same kind of evidence and were approved. But I am not in any kind of position of authority to judge the incidentals. I mean, I think your case is good for others on this board to read about so we know that we need to bring all that we have just in case the consular officer is not convinced.

I think the fact that you're going to go to the interview with him will speak volumes. If there are any problems at that point, you can ask all of the relevant questions and do your best to convince the consular officer that you are in love with your fiance and cannot wait to marry him!

I wish you all the best!

Good luck!

[maya62 7]

Skemper,

That is fantastic! Good for you for being proactive. Yes, I think your letters (and the phone call) worked. And I think you have the right idea... be there and have everything with you.

Best wishes...

Maya

[Jaci 0]

Many of you have read my topic about my fiance being denied due to lack of evidence.

Well, in short, he went to the interview, was asked a bunch of questions, showed lots of evidence and then was DENIED, and the Consular Officer said it was due to lack of evidence but then gave him no paperwork, no chance to come back with more evidence (which from what I understand is usual when the CO believes there is not enough evidence). So, after a few days of crying and reading up on all of your advise and help. I sent a letter to the Supervisory Consular Officer (actually two letters, in the past two days) urging him to review our case and at the very least allow us to come back with more evidence. Well, out of the blue, my fiance and I were talking just now and decided to call the Consulate and ask why he wasn't given any paper when he left. They ended up giving him another interview date (according to the person at the Consulate) for August 1 at 1:00 p.m. told him to bring all of the paperwork he had originally brought, plus the more evidence (Oh, boy, they asked for it - I have thousands of e-mails and lots of pictures)...... has anyone heard of this?

yes

Could this be that the CO was SUPPOSED to give him a paper with the allowance to return at another time with more evidence?

well they are supposed to give you SOMETHING by way of an explanation for refusing to issue the visa, but they don't have to give you an opportunity to give more evidence NOW and THERE.

Has anyone heard of this or had this experience???? PLEASE TELL ME ALL!!!!!!!!! Do you think my letters might have worked and they are giving us another opportunity???? PLEASE TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS!!!!!!

My thoughts are that I sure wish I had had that opportunity back when we were in that position, and I'm sure other applicants would second my opinion.. GO FOR IT! This is definitely a great opportunity for you.

This time, I will be there with him in that case... it is an unexpected expense but at the very least it could make or break our case. Correct? PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS!!!!!!

Yes, your appearance there might help, but it's your fiance's intent that is more likely in question. I will repost this for you.. it's what I will be keeping in mind when I return:

To prepare for interview... well...

Don't just give your SO a list of questions.. go over the questions together. Remember together how you met and fell in love. Make sure your SO knows the names of your family members and any basic details of past marriages. Even if you believe it's not relevant to your current relationship, the info IS usually considered relevant to an interviewing CO. I would recommend practicing the questions a few times with him/her.

One couple I watched go through a rather lengthy interview in Bucharest really irritated the CO because they had absolutely no evidence of relationship to show except a marriage certificate. The CO let them know they had a big problem and she didn't see how she could approve them, then began to ask typical questions in a rather sharp manner (how did you meet, how much time spent together, etc.) Frankly I was embarrased for the treatment they received at our embassy. I'd like to think people could be polite when they represent my country. Their conduct fit this post exactly and they succeeded even with a ticked off CO and not enough evidence. Had they appeared offended or upset, or behaved like there was any problem at all with how they were spoken to, or like they were panicked about being told they weren't going home with a visa BEFORE being questioned, they surely would not have succeeded.

(Yes, sometimes the CO will tell the applicant they are going to deny them, and THEN ask questions.)

THe couple responded to each question amazingly briefly and politely as if they honestly didn't hear how rude and irritated the CO was, and very calm as if they didn't realize they were a hair's breadth from denial. (they were, and I'm sure they did)

What I learned from them was to maintain that there is absolutely no problem, remain calm and pleasant, no matter what is said to you. Even in the event of denial this is a good idea, since it will make resolving consular issues a lot easier the next time around if you run into the same CO.

edit

I still recommend a consultation before you go.

Edited July 19, 2006 by Jaci

[irishgirl73 0]

glad to see that you are being given another interview-good luck

[jmwprof03 0]

glad to see that you are being given another interview-good luck

Skemper! Woo! Another interview...del putas! Todo Bien! I didn't end going to Colombia at the end of June, but I am going in August. I will be there when you are going to your interview. Will I see a dump truck unloading evidence of your relationship in front of the embassy?!! Hey, if you need Carlos and I there for some kind of support, we will be there! Woman, stay strong...I am so happy you were able to get another interview.

[Yodrak 7]

skemper,

The visa application decision process is quite subjective. My belief is that the most significant piece of evidence is the applicant themself. Documentation for the file is essential, but with a little time anyone can create large volumes of appropriate documentation no matter what their true motive.

I think that your presence at the re-interview can be helpful because it may change the dynamic and your fiance may present himself better than he did the first time.

Yodrak

Many of you have read my topic about my fiance being denied due to lack of evidence.

Well, in short, he went to the interview, was asked a bunch of questions, showed lots of evidence and then was DENIED, and the Consular Officer said it was due to lack of evidence but then gave him no paperwork, no chance to come back with more evidence (which from what I understand is usual when the CO believes there is not enough evidence). So, after a few days of crying and reading up on all of your advise and help. I sent a letter to the Supervisory Consular Officer (actually two letters, in the past two days) urging him to review our case and at the very least allow us to come back with more evidence. Well, out of the blue, my fiance and I were talking just now and decided to call the Consulate and ask why he wasn't given any paper when he left. They ended up giving him another interview date (according to the person at the Consulate) for August 1 at 1:00 p.m. told him to bring all of the paperwork he had originally brought, plus the more evidence (Oh, boy, they asked for it - I have thousands of e-mails and lots of pictures)...... has anyone heard of this? Could this be that the CO was SUPPOSED to give him a paper with the allowance to return at another time with more evidence? Has anyone heard of this or had this experience???? PLEASE TELL ME ALL!!!!!!!!! Do you think my letters might have worked and they are giving us another opportunity???? PLEASE TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS!!!!!!

This time, I will be there with him in that case... it is an unexpected expense but at the very least it could make or break our case. Correct? PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS!!!!!!

Edited July 19, 2006 by Yodrak

[morocco4ever 63]

This is great news! I agree with lal_brandow, I wish I had had this information when we were issued a 221g and our case sent back to the CIS.

How did you get this persons information?

Edited July 19, 2006 by Morocco4ever