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Lain   64

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Hello everyone,

Hope this is the right forum for my question - my mom has dual citizenship-U.S. and Lithuanian, but Lithuania doesn't allow to have dual citizenship, and ofcourse she wants to keep it as long anyone report about it. We are concerned about travelling details. Which passport to show travelling from U.S. to Lithuania(if she wants to stay longer than 3 months) and from Lithuania back to U.S.? Is it ok to go to Lithuania with Lithuanian passport and return back with U.S.? Or would that cause some problems at the border?

Has anyone experienced that?

Sincerely,

Lain

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Brother Hesekiel   2,236

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Hello everyone,

Hope this is the right forum for my question - my mom has dual citizenship-U.S. and Lithuanian, but Lithuania doesn't allow to have dual citizenship, and ofcourse she wants to keep it as long anyone report about it. We are concerned about travelling details. Which passport to show travelling from U.S. to Lithuania(if she wants to stay longer than 3 months) and from Lithuania back to U.S.? Is it ok to go to Lithuania with Lithuanian passport and return back with U.S.? Or would that cause some problems at the border?

Has anyone experienced that?

Sincerely,

Lain

Lain,

I don't know the specific requirements for Lithuania, but if it's anything like Russia, here is the plan of action.

Assuming your mother's name is identical in both passports, she would leave the US with the Lithunanian passport, and enter Lithuania with the same, hereby avoiding the requirement of a visa.

When leaving Lithuania, she can use either her Lithuanian passport, or her US passport. When entering the US she must use her US passport.

That said, if Lithuania automatically revokes its citizenship to citizens who acquire another country's citizenship, she would claim to be a citizen of a country she is not. In the US you go to jail for that, and I would assume that the Lithuanians--if they found out--wouldn't be too friendly about that either.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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visacheck   3

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Hello everyone,

Hope this is the right forum for my question - my mom has dual citizenship-U.S. and Lithuanian, but Lithuania doesn't allow to have dual citizenship, and ofcourse she wants to keep it as long anyone report about it. We are concerned about travelling details. Which passport to show travelling from U.S. to Lithuania(if she wants to stay longer than 3 months) and from Lithuania back to U.S.? Is it ok to go to Lithuania with Lithuanian passport and return back with U.S.? Or would that cause some problems at the border?

Has anyone experienced that?

Sincerely,

Lain

If Lithuania does not allow dual citizenship then in that case your mom does not have dual citizenship. She is a US citizen that happens to have an unexpired Lithuanian passport.

I would rather worry about getting an extension of stay in Lithuania instead of possibly worrying about bigger problems later on.

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visacheck   3

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Hello everyone,

Hope this is the right forum for my question - my mom has dual citizenship-U.S. and Lithuanian, but Lithuania doesn't allow to have dual citizenship, and ofcourse she wants to keep it as long anyone report about it. We are concerned about travelling details. Which passport to show travelling from U.S. to Lithuania(if she wants to stay longer than 3 months) and from Lithuania back to U.S.? Is it ok to go to Lithuania with Lithuanian passport and return back with U.S.? Or would that cause some problems at the border?

Has anyone experienced that?

Sincerely,

Lain

Lain,

I don't know the specific requirements for Lithuania, but if it's anything like Russia, here is the plan of action.

Assuming your mother's name is identical in both passports, she would leave the US with the Lithunanian passport, and enter Lithuania with the same, hereby avoiding the requirement of a visa.

When leaving Lithuania, she can use either her Lithuanian passport, or her US passport. When entering the US she must use her US passport.

That said, if Lithuania automatically revokes its citizenship to citizens who acquire another country's citizenship, she would claim to be a citizen of a country she is not. In the US you go to jail for that, and I would assume that the Lithuanians--if they found out--wouldn't be too friendly about that either.

Im not sure on this but if she uses her US passport when leaving Lihuania wont the Lithuanian immigration look for the entry stamp when she entered Lithuania? or wont it show on their system that she entered using a different passport? Unless ofcourse Lithuania has no immigration when exiting the country (like United States). On the other hand, if she uses her Lithuanian passport to exit Lithuania wont she need a US visitor visa of some sort or must apply for VWP? I am not familiar on the visa requirements for Lithuanians or how VWP works.

Now, if and when she succesfully exits Lithuania she needs to use her US passport to enter the US. She could possibly encouter problems on discrepancies on passport stamps or visas, etc. etc.

12/29/2007 Got married in the Philippines
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10/23/2008 I-539 approved
02/23/2009 USC wife filed I-130 Chicago Lockbox
02/26/2009 I-130 delivered to Chicago Lockbox
02/27/2009 Medical exam I-693
03/01/2009 Negative result on TB skin test
03/04/2009 I-130 received by California Service Center
03/05/2009 Check cashed by USCIS
03/06/2009 Medical Exam form I-693 released by civil surgeon
03/07/2009 NOA Receipt Notice for I-130
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03/16/2009 "The Package" delivered to Chicago Lockbox
03/16/2009 I-94 expired after 11 months since arrival
03/25/2009 Check cashed by USCIS
03/26/2009 Received NOA for I-485, I-765, I-131
03/28/2009 Received notice for Biometrics Appointment (April 9)
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04/09/2009 Biometrics done
05/07/2009 Received Advance Parole Document
05/08/2009 Received Interview Letter
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05/11/2009 Applied for SSN
05/16/2009 Received SSN
06/23/2009 AOS interview approved
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Brother Hesekiel   2,236

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Visacheck,

you are right, of course. Since neither of us knows exactly how the Lithuanians roll, the exiting Lithuania part is the unknown one.

Sure, she can leave the US with the L passport, enter with the L passport. I would assume someone LEAVES a country, including Lithuania (man, do I stumble typing that word), it's not an issue at all. As she has to prove to the Lithuanians that she's authorized to enter the US, she would need to show her US passport when leaving and, of course, must use her US passport when entering the US.

Assuming Lithuania prohibits dual citizenship, the only problem could possibly arise at a scenario you described, when the Lithuanians ask her when leaving Lithuania with her US Passport how she entered the country without a visa from Lithuania. She can't show them her L passport, as she would then expose her "dual citizenship."

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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Lain   64

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Thank you for taking time in consideration my question.

I got an extra one,- before leaving the US with L passport she will be asked to show a proof of her legal staying in the US - visa, GC or, in this case - US passport. Is it ok if US officers would see 2 passports? As i know US tolerates dual citizenship, just want to be sure that showing 2 passports on exit wouldn't make any problems?

Thank you in advance for your comments.

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visacheck   3

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Thank you for taking time in consideration my question.

I got an extra one,- before leaving the US with L passport she will be asked to show a proof of her legal staying in the US - visa, GC or, in this case - US passport. Is it ok if US officers would see 2 passports? As i know US tolerates dual citizenship, just want to be sure that showing 2 passports on exit wouldn't make any problems?

Thank you in advance for your comments.

Normally it is only the airlines that ask for proof not immigration officers.

12/29/2007 Got married in the Philippines
03/28/2008 Got 10yr B1/B2 visa
04/12/2008 Arrived in US under B1/B2 visa
08/06/2008 Filed I-539 visa extension
10/23/2008 I-539 approved
02/23/2009 USC wife filed I-130 Chicago Lockbox
02/26/2009 I-130 delivered to Chicago Lockbox
02/27/2009 Medical exam I-693
03/01/2009 Negative result on TB skin test
03/04/2009 I-130 received by California Service Center
03/05/2009 Check cashed by USCIS
03/06/2009 Medical Exam form I-693 released by civil surgeon
03/07/2009 NOA Receipt Notice for I-130
03/14/2009 Mailed I-485, I-864, I-693, I-765 & I-131 thru USPS
03/16/2009 "The Package" delivered to Chicago Lockbox
03/16/2009 I-94 expired after 11 months since arrival
03/25/2009 Check cashed by USCIS
03/26/2009 Received NOA for I-485, I-765, I-131
03/28/2009 Received notice for Biometrics Appointment (April 9)
04/02/2009 Approval Notice for I-130 received
04/09/2009 Biometrics done
05/07/2009 Received Advance Parole Document
05/08/2009 Received Interview Letter
05/09/2009 Received EAD card
05/11/2009 Applied for SSN
05/16/2009 Received SSN
06/23/2009 AOS interview approved
06/27/2009 Welcome Letter received
07/05/2009 Green Card received
06/01/2011 Mailed I-751 Form
06/07/2011 Received NOA for I-751
07/11/2011 Biometrics Done

03/19/2015 Mailed N-400

03/30/2015 NOA Received

04/15/2015 Biometrics Appointment

06/23/2015 Interview

07/22/2015 Oath Ceremony

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bill.ashton   0

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Hello everyone,

Hope this is the right forum for my question - my mom has dual citizenship-U.S. and Lithuanian, but Lithuania doesn't allow to have dual citizenship, and ofcourse she wants to keep it as long anyone report about it. We are concerned about travelling details. Which passport to show travelling from U.S. to Lithuania(if she wants to stay longer than 3 months) and from Lithuania back to U.S.? Is it ok to go to Lithuania with Lithuanian passport and return back with U.S.? Or would that cause some problems at the border?

Has anyone experienced that?

Sincerely,

Lain

Lain:

Your mother may be an exception to the Lithuanian dual citizenship law. I quote from the Lithuania Seimas (Parliament) website:

"A citizen of the Republic of Lithuania may not at the same time be a citizen of another state, except for persons who held citizenship of the Republic of Lithuania prior to 15 June 1940 who were exiled or withdrew from the Republic of Lithuania in the period of occupations from 15 June 1940 to 11 March 1990 ..." [emphasis added]

So if your mother was a Lithuanian citizen before June 15, 1940, and left during the Soviet occupation, she still is a Lithuanian, as well as a US, citizen, and there should be no problem with her having to give up one or the other.

If your mother's LT passport was issued in the last 10 years, then Lithuania recognizes her dual citizenship and she should not worry. One should always enter and leave a country with the same passport so that the entrance and exit stamps match. She must use her US passport to enter/exit the US as long as she remains an US citizen. She should likewise use her LT passport to enter/exit Lithuania (or other EU country she may travel to/from.)

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Why are we answering 2-year-old threads?

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I plan to have citizenship in two separate countries, so this DOES interest me.

If she has US citizenship, why bother to use the other passport at all? Does it grant fabulous discounts or speedy lines or some other benefit?

For myself, when traveling, my passport for the US is great for certain things and the ID I will have in the other country allows for easier travel in other places AND often deep discounts compared to foreigners on many things.

I wonder what the outcome was. Perhaps we never heard back from the OP because they are stuck in some Lithuanian prison rotting away and lamenting their passport woes.

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***** Closing as this is a re-surrected 2 year old thread. Feel free to open your own, new thread with questions regarding this issue *****

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