Travel Forum & Career Advice Forum

[Ban Hammer 14,567]

my buddy never logs in, can I have a new one?

*sits next to lal* you rang?

[TBoneTX 48,078]

If you think about it, and use your common sense, everyone on VJ who has been here or has gone thru the process already, is already a mentor to the rest of VJ who is still seeking help and advice.

Especially the members who can't spell, can't capitalize properly while typing, can't use remotely literate or even understandable English, and give wildly inaccurate advice. Si, man.

The buddy/mentor concept sounds promising, but I believe that it would be a nightmare to administer and to police, or even monitor. If wrong advice were given and then followed, with deleterious results, what about liability? Also, how would the "success" of the program be measured? Finally, it has already been mentioned that posting and participation are voluntary.

I believe that Ling Ling's original idea has merit, and that it should be considered. May I ask that the discussion here include a return to that original topic?

[Captain Ewok 1,930]

I should clarify.... The buddy idea was not for immigration issues at all. It was for "making new local friends" and a way to talk to local people that may have "local geographic and social" information on helping fellow new immigrants settle in. Immigration discussion is as always best on the forums.

[Ling Ling 22]

I should clarify.... The buddy idea was not for immigration issues at all. It was for "making new local friends" and a way to talk to local people that may have "local geographic and social" information on helping fellow new immigrants settle in. Immigration discussion is as always best on the forums.

THAT makes perfect sense.

So what say you on the Travel and/or Career Forums?

[rebeccajo 14]

Jaysus.

Nobody wants to do it, Ling Ling. Okay?

[Sinergy 3]

Jaysus.

Nobody wants to do it, Ling Ling. Okay?

dont go there...if you do he will report you for disagreeing with him

I should clarify.... The buddy idea was not for immigration issues at all. It was for "making new local friends" and a way to talk to local people that may have "local geographic and social" information on helping fellow new immigrants settle in. Immigration discussion is as always best on the forums.

That sounds GOOD, and im all for that happening.

[Old Dominion 26]

I agree with Ling Ling, who is always very intuitive, that a careers forum for newcomers would be a wonderful asset. The US can be a jungle without paths when it comes to offering insight to people from overseas who want to land on both feet as soon as possible. Here, especially, the mentoring concept could work.

[Ling Ling 22]

Jaysus.

Nobody wants to do it, Ling Ling. Okay?

Suddenly you speak for EVERYONE?

[Ling Ling 22]

I should clarify.... The buddy idea was not for immigration issues at all. It was for "making new local friends" and a way to talk to local people that may have "local geographic and social" information on helping fellow new immigrants settle in. Immigration discussion is as always best on the forums.

That sounds GOOD, and im all for that happening.

Nothing wrong with being a fan of Capt. Ewok, but I think you'd agree with him even if he suggested soup sandwiches.

I agree with Ling Ling, who is always very intuitive, that a careers forum for newcomers would be a wonderful asset. The US can be a jungle without paths when it comes to offering insight to people from overseas who want to land on both feet as soon as possible. Here, especially, the mentoring concept could work.

Thanks for having an open mind.

[Captain Ewok 1,930]

I know for a fact that new immigrants have trouble finding new work when they arrive do to bias and lack of US work history. If there is anything I can do to help (forum or not) I would be open to it.

[rebeccajo 14]

Jaysus.

Nobody wants to do it, Ling Ling. Okay?

Suddenly you speak for EVERYONE?

No, Doctor 'Who', I'm just speaking for the consensus in this thread who seem to feel that monster.com already exists.

[Ling Ling 22]

Jaysus.

Nobody wants to do it, Ling Ling. Okay?

Suddenly you speak for EVERYONE?

No, Doctor 'Who', I'm just speaking for the consensus in this thread who seem to feel that monster.com already exists.

Have a look again...you'll see that there are some in this thread that realize monster.com is not the end-all-be-all of finding employment.

Some in this thread realize that if that were the case, there'd be zero unemployment "Just login to Monster, and Bob's your uncle".

Some in this thread realize that the employment obstacles and challenges for immigrants are unique.

Perhaps YOUR experience is different because the UK is an English speaking country. Whatever the reason, your experience is unique to you,

and I in no way desire to trivialize it by suggesting otherwise.

I don't even know why I'm having this dialogue with you. I'm sure entered this thread, to add your personal views on why it's a good or bad idea,

but you somehow became distracted and decided to quip in with a snipe. But maybe I just missed where you contributed anything to this discussion?

[rebeccajo 14]

Jaysus.

Nobody wants to do it, Ling Ling. Okay?

Suddenly you speak for EVERYONE?

No, Doctor 'Who', I'm just speaking for the consensus in this thread who seem to feel that monster.com already exists.

Have a look again...you'll see that there are some in this thread that realize monster.com is not the end-all-be-all of finding employment.

Some in this thread realize that if that were the case, there'd be zero unemployment "Just login to Monster, and Bob's your uncle".

Some in this thread realize that the employment obstacles and challenges for immigrants are unique.

Perhaps YOUR experience is different because the UK is an English speaking country. Whatever the reason, your experience is unique to you,

and I in no way desire to trivialize it by suggesting otherwise.

I don't even know why I'm having this dialogue with you. I'm sure entered this thread, to add your personal views on why it's a good or bad idea,

but you somehow became distracted and decided to quip in with a snipe. But maybe I just missed where you contributed anything to this discussion?

Do I have to be 'in' the conversation from the beginning to not have an opinion? I've been reading this pretty much since you started it looks to me like most readers in the thread think it'd be an unnecessary forum. Especially since we already HAVE a forum for it.

And just so ya know, LL, immigrating is immigrating. Speaking English as a first language is a VERY marginal advantage. My husband works as a Customer Service Rep for a major cable company. A lot of people are charmed by his accent - others hang up on him or ask to speak to someone who 'speaks English'.

And I sniped at you because I think your member title is over-the-top. I don't know what you are trying to imply with it, but it makes you look silly.

[DairyFarmer 1]

Personally I feel a forum dedicated to starting work / career again in the US would be useful. One of the things I would be 'wary' (for lack of a better word) would being 'buddied' up with someone who feels they know more than they do. I appreciate how in the current forums if someone spouts off (cause they know ) others are able to see what is going on and help correct the mis information.

We all learn differently and obviously interact differently, so whilst this idea might not suit some it may be ideal for others.

Edited January 10, 2009 by DairyFarmer

[Ling Ling 22]

And I sniped at you because I think your member title is over-the-top. I don't know what you are trying to imply with it, but it makes you look silly.

Sounds like a personal problem that nobody can help but yourself. Perhaps you should take advice from your own member title and "get over it".

Thanks for sharing.