Women arrested for wearing Hijab in traffic court!

[Sinergy 3]

You could hide a razor blade or drugs in your bra too! So why not take off your shirt and bra and let them check there too!

i fully support this measure

and they do, but a woman officer would do so.

[Ban Hammer 12,845]

You could hide a razor blade or drugs in your bra too! So why not take off your shirt and bra and let them check there too!

i fully support this measure

and they do, but a woman officer would do so.

spoilsport, i was gonna go hang out by the courthouse.

[childress_london 3]

The difference between wearing a hijab which covers your head and wearing a shirt that covers your boobs is just that. If they asked a man to take off his hat to make sure hes not hiding anything in it, should be seen as asking a muslim to take off her hijab for 2 seconds to check if anything is hidden under it. You cant be too careful these days. I know not many weapons can be hidden in a hijab, but a small razor blade could, and certain drugs could, so i see where she was asked to take if off was not to be offending or insulting. And sometimes IMO, the "im not taking it off bc its my religious belief" is taken way too far. In court, or even in government buildings it is disrespectful to wear anything on your head, a hat, a scarf, a hoodie, a bandana...so yes, in court, she couldve taken off her hijab...shes in america now, and it wouldnt hurt to be respectful when its expected.

Just because something is law, does not mean it is right. I am not saying that people should break the law if they disagree with it, but in this country we can change the law if we disagree with it. We don't have to sit back and say "well that's the law so she should just put up with it". At one time, black people were segregated from white people. Does this mean it was right because it was law? NO. Did this law change? YES. Why? Because people didn't sit quietly and let this wrongful behavior continue. If we continue to discriminate against women who wear the hijab, and make it illegal to be worn in certain circumstances, then this not only violates the right of that individual, it violates everyone's religious rights. In order to be "fair", this country is going from religious freedom to a country that prohibits any religious expression at all. This scares me and it's very dangerous. The time to stop it is now, and I think the hijab issue is a great place to start. And no, I'm not Muslim and I don't wear the hijab.

[childress_london 3]

The difference between wearing a hijab which covers your head and wearing a shirt that covers your boobs is just that. If they asked a man to take off his hat to make sure hes not hiding anything in it, should be seen as asking a muslim to take off her hijab for 2 seconds to check if anything is hidden under it. You cant be too careful these days. I know not many weapons can be hidden in a hijab, but a small razor blade could, and certain drugs could, so i see where she was asked to take if off was not to be offending or insulting. And sometimes IMO, the "im not taking it off bc its my religious belief" is taken way too far. In court, or even in government buildings it is disrespectful to wear anything on your head, a hat, a scarf, a hoodie, a bandana...so yes, in court, she couldve taken off her hijab...shes in america now, and it wouldnt hurt to be respectful when its expected.

Just because something is law, does not mean it is right. I am not saying that people should break the law if they disagree with it, but in this country we can change the law if we disagree with it. We don't have to sit back and say "well that's the law so she should just put up with it". At one time, black people were segregated from white people. Does this mean it was right because it was law? NO. Did this law change? YES. Why? Because people didn't sit quietly and let this wrongful behavior continue. If we continue to discriminate against women who wear the hijab, and make it illegal to be worn in certain circumstances, then this not only violates the right of that individual, it violates everyone's religious rights. In order to be "fair", this country is going from religious freedom to a country that prohibits any religious expression at all. This scares me and it's very dangerous. The time to stop it is now, and I think the hijab issue is a great place to start. And no, I'm not Muslim and I don't wear the hijab.

And as far as being respectful, they were not being respectful to this lady at all. If security were the issue, they could escort her to a private area where she could remove the hijab in the presence of another woman to be inspected and then allowed to put it back on. How hard is that?

[Sinergy 3]

The difference between wearing a hijab which covers your head and wearing a shirt that covers your boobs is just that. If they asked a man to take off his hat to make sure hes not hiding anything in it, should be seen as asking a muslim to take off her hijab for 2 seconds to check if anything is hidden under it. You cant be too careful these days. I know not many weapons can be hidden in a hijab, but a small razor blade could, and certain drugs could, so i see where she was asked to take if off was not to be offending or insulting. And sometimes IMO, the "im not taking it off bc its my religious belief" is taken way too far. In court, or even in government buildings it is disrespectful to wear anything on your head, a hat, a scarf, a hoodie, a bandana...so yes, in court, she couldve taken off her hijab...shes in america now, and it wouldnt hurt to be respectful when its expected.

Just because something is law, does not mean it is right. I am not saying that people should break the law if they disagree with it, but in this country we can change the law if we disagree with it. We don't have to sit back and say "well that's the law so she should just put up with it". At one time, black people were segregated from white people. Does this mean it was right because it was law? NO. Did this law change? YES. Why? Because people didn't sit quietly and let this wrongful behavior continue. If we continue to discriminate against women who wear the hijab, and make it illegal to be worn in certain circumstances, then this not only violates the right of that individual, it violates everyone's religious rights. In order to be "fair", this country is going from religious freedom to a country that prohibits any religious expression at all. This scares me and it's very dangerous. The time to stop it is now, and I think the hijab issue is a great place to start. And no, I'm not Muslim and I don't wear the hijab.

The law is not going to change. When you walk into a government building...ie courthouse, it clearly states to remove headgear. there are no exceptions.

[notime4haterz 0]

The difference between wearing a hijab which covers your head and wearing a shirt that covers your boobs is just that. If they asked a man to take off his hat to make sure hes not hiding anything in it, should be seen as asking a muslim to take off her hijab for 2 seconds to check if anything is hidden under it. You cant be too careful these days. I know not many weapons can be hidden in a hijab, but a small razor blade could, and certain drugs could, so i see where she was asked to take if off was not to be offending or insulting. And sometimes IMO, the "im not taking it off bc its my religious belief" is taken way too far. In court, or even in government buildings it is disrespectful to wear anything on your head, a hat, a scarf, a hoodie, a bandana...so yes, in court, she couldve taken off her hijab...shes in america now, and it wouldnt hurt to be respectful when its expected.

You could hide a razor blade or drugs in your bra too! So why not take off your shirt and bra and let them check there too! Oh come on it's just 2 seconds to make sure you don't have something in there... we have to be careful these days... Oh and yes, guys, we need to check your underwear too... so drop your drawers... you could be hiding something in there...

WHERE DOES THIS END??

Most women in this culture feel "exposed" when they are topless... same for Hijabi's who are told to take off their hijab. If you visited a place where women went topless would you immediately start going topless and expect to be harassed if you didn't?

I know of NO Government building in my state where you are required to be strip searched to enter. And none that disrespect hijabi's either... And whenever I've been searched at airports I'm always taken to a private room with a woman security agent, but I'm not required to remove ANYTHING to board the plane! So if it's safe enough to have a hijabi on a plane, I'm thinking it's safe enough ANYWHERE!

BTW, I believe this woman was born and raised in the USA, and may have never stepped foot outside of the USA so you're statement that she's "in America now" makes little to NO sense. And I know of NO ONE who believes that a religious headcovering is a sign of disrespect to any one! I've never heard a nun referred to as disrespectful for wearing a habit...

Where on EARTH is common sense and respect for beliefs and cultures different from one's own.... obviously not here amoung a group of people involved with people from different cultures and beliefs than their own... Who would have guessed...

BTW, I believe this woman was born and raised in the USA, and may have never stepped foot outside of the USA so you're statement that she's "in America now" makes little to NO sense.

I was laughing when I read that part about "she's in America now"!!! Heloooooo......I wear hijab and my family has been in the United States since the 1800's. Even the media sometimes make idiotic comments like that assuming that all muslims are immigrants. Freakin' unreal.

Always consider the source of the statement...

Edited December 24, 2008 by notime4haterz

[Sinergy 3]

The difference between wearing a hijab which covers your head and wearing a shirt that covers your boobs is just that. If they asked a man to take off his hat to make sure hes not hiding anything in it, should be seen as asking a muslim to take off her hijab for 2 seconds to check if anything is hidden under it. You cant be too careful these days. I know not many weapons can be hidden in a hijab, but a small razor blade could, and certain drugs could, so i see where she was asked to take if off was not to be offending or insulting. And sometimes IMO, the "im not taking it off bc its my religious belief" is taken way too far. In court, or even in government buildings it is disrespectful to wear anything on your head, a hat, a scarf, a hoodie, a bandana...so yes, in court, she couldve taken off her hijab...shes in america now, and it wouldnt hurt to be respectful when its expected.

You could hide a razor blade or drugs in your bra too! So why not take off your shirt and bra and let them check there too! Oh come on it's just 2 seconds to make sure you don't have something in there... we have to be careful these days... Oh and yes, guys, we need to check your underwear too... so drop your drawers... you could be hiding something in there...

WHERE DOES THIS END??

Most women in this culture feel "exposed" when they are topless... same for Hijabi's who are told to take off their hijab. If you visited a place where women went topless would you immediately start going topless and expect to be harassed if you didn't?

I know of NO Government building in my state where you are required to be strip searched to enter. And none that disrespect hijabi's either... And whenever I've been searched at airports I'm always taken to a private room with a woman security agent, but I'm not required to remove ANYTHING to board the plane! So if it's safe enough to have a hijabi on a plane, I'm thinking it's safe enough ANYWHERE!

BTW, I believe this woman was born and raised in the USA, and may have never stepped foot outside of the USA so you're statement that she's "in America now" makes little to NO sense. And I know of NO ONE who believes that a religious headcovering is a sign of disrespect to any one! I've never heard a nun referred to as disrespectful for wearing a habit...

Where on EARTH is common sense and respect for beliefs and cultures different from one's own.... obviously not here amoung a group of people involved with people from different cultures and beliefs than their own... Who would have guessed...

Even worse, since shes AMERICAN, she knows the policies and law when walking in a court house, she has no reason to complain

i hope everyone has a merry christmas...!!

[notime4haterz 0]

I'd like the see the law, in writing, that says you have to take off a religious covering from your head. Since the chief of police released her, I'm guessing they didn't have anything solid to hold her on. Still, I'd like to see the written law for that little town in Georgia.

[Sinergy 3]

I'd like the see the law, in writing, that says you have to take off a religious covering from your head. Since the chief of police released her, I'm guessing they didn't have anything solid to hold her on. Still, I'd like to see the written law for that little town in Georgia.

It has nothing to do with it being religious or not, ITS A HEAD COVER, and you take off any headcovering in any government building. it doesnt matter, youll continue to argue it anyway...no one can be right but you however, just shows how little you know about the law and policies. And you wouldnt be this upset or argumenative about it if it was a nun and not a muslim. Im outta here, its christmas eve, Im gonna spend it with my husband and kids, not on here arguing with you

have a wonderful christmas!!

[notime4haterz 0]

I'd like the see the law, in writing, that says you have to take off a religious covering from your head. Since the chief of police released her, I'm guessing they didn't have anything solid to hold her on. Still, I'd like to see the written law for that little town in Georgia.

It has nothing to do with it being religious or not, ITS A HEAD COVER, and you take off any headcovering in any government building. it doesnt matter, youll continue to argue it anyway...no one can be right but you however, just shows how little you know about the law and policies. And you wouldnt be this upset or argumenative about it if it was a nun and not a muslim. Im outta here, its christmas eve, Im gonna spend it with my husband and kids, not on here arguing with you

have a wonderful christmas!!

Good riddance!!!

I asked for the written law. I would also get mad if they made a nun take off her habit! That habit is not JUST A HEAD COVER to a nun either.

You say I know little about the laws and policies...well why don't you bring out the law in writing then genius???

[Ban Hammer 12,845]

would i have to remove my head cover too?

[notime4haterz 0]

There was a seikh man that sued the government, because he wanted to keep his turban on, IN JAIL. They claimed that they based their argument on this law:

http://www.becketfund.org/index.php/article/398.html

[childress_london 3]

Well, as I said, laws can and do change. They change according to the will of the people. If enough people make a stink about it, it will change. That's the American way. End of story.

[KHPerfectMatch 1]

would i have to remove my head cover too?

Not if your religious belief requires you to wear commercials for farm equipment... and if so, I'd love to know what faith you belong to....

Do you really equate the two?

[KHPerfectMatch 1]

I'd like the see the law, in writing, that says you have to take off a religious covering from your head. Since the chief of police released her, I'm guessing they didn't have anything solid to hold her on. Still, I'd like to see the written law for that little town in Georgia.

It has nothing to do with it being religious or not, ITS A HEAD COVER, and you take off any headcovering in any government building. it doesnt matter, youll continue to argue it anyway...no one can be right but you however, just shows how little you know about the law and policies. And you wouldnt be this upset or argumenative about it if it was a nun and not a muslim. Im outta here, its christmas eve, Im gonna spend it with my husband and kids, not on here arguing with you

have a wonderful christmas!!

Thank God it's Christmas... she's too busy for logic... Female Muslim defendants in our courtrooms (even those incarcerated pending their trial) are allowed to wear hijab. They tried to force a poor woman to remove hers during court session but the people in my town were outraged and the "policy" was changed.

There is NO FEDERAL LAW that prohibits wearing head coverings in government buildings. That's a flat out lie or at least 6 women I know couldn't go to work every day as we all do! As for State and local laws, that could be totally different... state by state, jurisdiction by jurisdiction, but I believe all would be found to be Unconstitutional... we just have to challenge them one at a time... Time to end "Jamal Crow", (Jim Crow) before we have to start drinking out of different drinking fountains!