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Hi there VJers,

I just opened the mail and have received a dreaded Request for Evidence. I live and work in Bogota, where my fiance lives. So I have never had to travel to visit him. We worked together; that is how we met. I do not have the 129F packet on hand (I am in the US for Christmas) but I know we at least submitted:

photos of us together from various dates

my apartment lease (on which he and his mother are co-signers)

my passport copy (with my Colombian work visas, including the job where we met and stamps in and out of the country)

a letter from a coworker/friend

Here is what the letter says.

"LAST MEETING : The Petitioner and the benficiary must have met in person between July 22, 2006 and July 21, 2008. Submit evidence of meeting the beneficiary in person within the 2-year period preceding the filing of the petition.

You have submitted primary evidence including copies of your passport pages that show the identification page and admission stamps; however secondary evidence is requested.

This secondary evidence may be airline ticket stubs and receipts (that include month, day, and year), ATM and credit card transactions, flight itinerary on airline/travel agency letterhead, etc.

NOTE: Secondary evidence is used to support any primary evidence that has been submitted. The following DOES NOT constitute evidence of meeting: photos (dated or undated), disc, videos, emails, letters, phone bills, and greeting cards."

Reading this very carefully I see the phrase "preceding the filing of the petition". Soooo...this means I have to submit something from between when we started dating in January 2008 and when we submitted the petition in July 2008?

Ideas:

1.We are taking our first trip together in a few weeks, from Dec 30-Jan 10. Will submitting the currently unused (but purchased by me with both our names on them) tickets for this trip do anything for us? I am not sure I have the receipt, but I can dig around.

2. Can I contact our employer and have them write a letter on company letterhead saying that we worked there simultaneously until July 1, 2008??

We did not travel together during that time. We lived in the same city, we were busy with work and saving for the 129F; we went on friggin dates.

3.Will submitting email receipts of my flights between the US and Bogota (arriving in Jan 08 and leaving July 08 to visit my family) be useful? They were all e-tickets...

I realize this does not prove that we met, but for the love of god, I have a work visa for his employer :blink: in my passport and flew in and out of the city where he lives. I really don't know what more to submit.

Also, credit/ATM receipts for WHAT?

The kicker is I am in the US til the 30th, he's in Colombia, they want this evidence by Jan 4.

Sheesh.

Thanks as always, VJ Team....

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I feel your pain! The SAME thing happened to me. :yes: I was living in India for years and that's how I met my fiance. Then I got the same RFE to submit evidence of meeting! I mean, how ridiculous is that!

What they want is proof that you were in the same country at the same time as he was. You don't need to prove it with both names on paperwork, just that you were there when he was. So dig through any paperwork you have that proves you were in Bogata Jan - July 2008.

1. Don't send copies of the tickets for your first trip together, they are out of the timeframe asked for. At this point, they are only interested in Jan-July 2008. (Proof of ongoing relationship is needed at the Consulate interview.)

2. Yes, have the employer write a letter verifying that you were working there at the same dates.

3. Yes, definitely submit flight info for your trip arriving Jan 2008 to July 2008. THAT IS THE MAIN THING THEY WANT!

I sent in flight details of me leaving India (didn't have entering due to it being YEARS previously!), visa extensions, a hotel receipt with my name and hotel address in India, and a few encashment certificates of traveller's checks (if you have a bank account there and can prove you were there to withdraw money, or used your ATM card during Jan-July in Botaga, send in that proof). Remember, his name doesn't have to be there, just your name and address in Bogata and dated between Jan-July 2008. I also sent a statement giving dates I was living in India and dates of us meeting.

After sending in all the evidence, I was approved two weeks later. GOOD LUCK to you both for a speedy approval!! :thumbs:

***Nagaraju & Eileen***
K1 (Fiance Visa)
Oct 18, 2006: NOA1
Feb 8, 2007: NOA2
April 13, 2007: INTERVIEW in Chennai -Approved
May 25, 2007: USA Arrival! EAD at JFK
June 15, 2007: Married
AOS (Adjustment of Status)
June 21, 2007: AOS/EAD Submitted
Sept 18, 2007: AOS Interview - APPROVED!!
ROC (Removing of Conditions)
June 23, 2009: Sent in I-751 packet
Sept 11, 2009: APPROVED!!
Sept 18, 2009: Received 10-year Green Card!

Naturalization
July 15, 2010: Sent N-400 packet
July 23, 2010: NOA Notice date
Oct 15, 2010: Citizenship Interview - Passed!
Nov 15, 2010: Oath Ceremony in Fresno, CA
Nov 24, 2010: Did SSN and Applied for Passport
Dec 6, 2010: Passport Arrives
Dec 7, 2010: Sent for Indian Passport Surrender Certificate
Dec 27, 2010: Surrender Certificate Arrives
Jan 3, 2011: Sent for Overseas Citizenship of India Card
March 1, 2011: Received OCI card!

Divorce

Feb 2015:​ Found out he was cheating (prostitutes / escorts)

​May 2015: Divorce Final

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I'm confused, are you posting about your i-129f? This is the AoS section. Or did they ask this of your AoS applications?

3/5/11 sent LOC paperwork

3/9/11 date of NOA

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I'm confused, are you posting about your i-129f? This is the AoS section. Or did they ask this of your AoS applications?

I am even more confused, why file for K-1 if both of you live in Columbia? Columbian's, living in Columbia, are not going to be eligible for Green Cards...

B and J K-1 story

  • April 2004 met online
  • July 16, 2006 Met in person on her birthday in United Arab Emirates
  • August 4, 2006 sent certified mail I-129F packet Neb SC
  • August 9, 2006 NOA1
  • August 21, 2006 received NOA1 in mail
  • October 4, 5, 7, 13 & 17 2006 Touches! 50 day address change... Yes Judith is beautiful, quit staring at her passport photo and approve us!!! Shaming works! LOL
  • October 13, 2006 NOA2! November 2, 2006 NOA2? Huh? NVC already processed and sent us on to Abu Dhabi Consulate!
  • February 12, 2007 Abu Dhabi Interview SUCCESS!!! February 14 Visa in hand!
  • March 6, 2007 she is here!
  • MARCH 14, 2007 WE ARE MARRIED!!!
  • May 5, 2007 Sent AOS/EAD packet
  • May 11, 2007 NOA1 AOS/EAD
  • June 7, 2007 Biometrics appointment
  • June 8, 2007 first post biometrics touch, June 11, next touch...
  • August 1, 2007 AOS Interview! APPROVED!! EAD APPROVED TOO...
  • August 6, 2007 EAD card and Welcome Letter received!
  • August 13, 2007 GREEN CARD received!!! 375 days since mailing the I-129F!

    Remove Conditions:

  • May 1, 2009 first day to file
  • May 9, 2009 mailed I-751 to USCIS CS
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Hi there VJers,

I just opened the mail and have received a dreaded Request for Evidence. I live and work in Bogota, where my fiance lives. So I have never had to travel to visit him. We worked together; that is how we met. I do not have the 129F packet on hand (I am in the US for Christmas) but I know we at least submitted:

photos of us together from various dates

my apartment lease (on which he and his mother are co-signers)

my passport copy (with my Colombian work visas, including the job where we met and stamps in and out of the country)

a letter from a coworker/friend

Here is what the letter says.

"LAST MEETING : The Petitioner and the benficiary must have met in person between July 22, 2006 and July 21, 2008. Submit evidence of meeting the beneficiary in person within the 2-year period preceding the filing of the petition.

You have submitted primary evidence including copies of your passport pages that show the identification page and admission stamps; however secondary evidence is requested.

This secondary evidence may be airline ticket stubs and receipts (that include month, day, and year), ATM and credit card transactions, flight itinerary on airline/travel agency letterhead, etc.

NOTE: Secondary evidence is used to support any primary evidence that has been submitted. The following DOES NOT constitute evidence of meeting: photos (dated or undated), disc, videos, emails, letters, phone bills, and greeting cards."

Reading this very carefully I see the phrase "preceding the filing of the petition". Soooo...this means I have to submit something from between when we started dating in January 2008 and when we submitted the petition in July 2008?

Ideas:

1.We are taking our first trip together in a few weeks, from Dec 30-Jan 10. Will submitting the currently unused (but purchased by me with both our names on them) tickets for this trip do anything for us? I am not sure I have the receipt, but I can dig around.

2. Can I contact our employer and have them write a letter on company letterhead saying that we worked there simultaneously until July 1, 2008??

We did not travel together during that time. We lived in the same city, we were busy with work and saving for the 129F; we went on friggin dates.

3.Will submitting email receipts of my flights between the US and Bogota (arriving in Jan 08 and leaving July 08 to visit my family) be useful? They were all e-tickets...

I realize this does not prove that we met, but for the love of god, I have a work visa for his employer :blink: in my passport and flew in and out of the city where he lives. I really don't know what more to submit.

Also, credit/ATM receipts for WHAT?

The kicker is I am in the US til the 30th, he's in Colombia, they want this evidence by Jan 4.

Sheesh.

Thanks as always, VJ Team....

Send them a letter explaining you work for the same employer. At the least, you have your boarding pass for having just recently left Columbia. ATM or other receipts for anything purchased in Columbia. Yes, I'd submit the ticket copies even though unused. A letter from the employer faxed to you from the company fax machine would be great evidence too. I would think you have sufficient if you can do the above.

Is this really an AOS case though? You live in his country.

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Hi guys,

Thanks...sorry for the confusion, I'm not sure how this ended up in AOS. It is K1/129F.

Since I am visiting family for Christmas right now and he is in Colombia, he sent me a letter each from our employer (where we met) stating the terms of our contracts for last year, to hopefully prove we were there at the same time. I am also going to re-copy my Colombian work visa for the job (which has the name of the employer on it) in case that wasn't clear in the 129F packet.

Other ideas I have:

I can print out airline receipts from the e-tickets I used to arrive and leave Colombia between Jan 2008 and July 2008. I have no idea if this is enough proof, but I can't remember the last time I used a paper ticket for anything. I don't have any boarding passes. Strangely, I somehow thought they were garbage and threw them away. I can make copies of these passport stamps leaving Colombia however, though that is out of the timeframe requested.

I can possibly print bank statements for the months of Jan-July, for my Colombian bank account. As for ATM receipts, I might not have any. I pretty much always throw those away.

Not sure what else I can do. Especially since they want this evidence by Jan 4 and I don't get back to Coloombia till Dec 29, and I am not able to dig through files from here in the US.

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Hi there VJers,

I just opened the mail and have received a dreaded Request for Evidence. I live and work in Bogota, where my fiance lives. So I have never had to travel to visit him. We worked together; that is how we met. I do not have the 129F packet on hand (I am in the US for Christmas) but I know we at least submitted:

photos of us together from various dates

my apartment lease (on which he and his mother are co-signers)

my passport copy (with my Colombian work visas, including the job where we met and stamps in and out of the country)

a letter from a coworker/friend

Here is what the letter says.

"LAST MEETING : The Petitioner and the benficiary must have met in person between July 22, 2006 and July 21, 2008. Submit evidence of meeting the beneficiary in person within the 2-year period preceding the filing of the petition.

You have submitted primary evidence including copies of your passport pages that show the identification page and admission stamps; however secondary evidence is requested.

This secondary evidence may be airline ticket stubs and receipts (that include month, day, and year), ATM and credit card transactions, flight itinerary on airline/travel agency letterhead, etc.

NOTE: Secondary evidence is used to support any primary evidence that has been submitted. The following DOES NOT constitute evidence of meeting: photos (dated or undated), disc, videos, emails, letters, phone bills, and greeting cards."

Reading this very carefully I see the phrase "preceding the filing of the petition". Soooo...this means I have to submit something from between when we started dating in January 2008 and when we submitted the petition in July 2008?

Ideas:

1.We are taking our first trip together in a few weeks, from Dec 30-Jan 10. Will submitting the currently unused (but purchased by me with both our names on them) tickets for this trip do anything for us? I am not sure I have the receipt, but I can dig around.

2. Can I contact our employer and have them write a letter on company letterhead saying that we worked there simultaneously until July 1, 2008??

We did not travel together during that time. We lived in the same city, we were busy with work and saving for the 129F; we went on friggin dates.

3.Will submitting email receipts of my flights between the US and Bogota (arriving in Jan 08 and leaving July 08 to visit my family) be useful? They were all e-tickets...

I realize this does not prove that we met, but for the love of god, I have a work visa for his employer :blink: in my passport and flew in and out of the city where he lives. I really don't know what more to submit.

Also, credit/ATM receipts for WHAT?

The kicker is I am in the US til the 30th, he's in Colombia, they want this evidence by Jan 4.

Sheesh.

Thanks as always, VJ Team....

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Hi there VJers,

I just opened the mail and have received a dreaded Request for Evidence. I live and work in Bogota, where my fiance lives. So I have never had to travel to visit him. We worked together; that is how we met. I do not have the 129F packet on hand (I am in the US for Christmas) but I know we at least submitted:

photos of us together from various dates

my apartment lease (on which he and his mother are co-signers)

my passport copy (with my Colombian work visas, including the job where we met and stamps in and out of the country)

a letter from a coworker/friend

Here is what the letter says.

"LAST MEETING : The Petitioner and the benficiary must have met in person between July 22, 2006 and July 21, 2008. Submit evidence of meeting the beneficiary in person within the 2-year period preceding the filing of the petition.

You have submitted primary evidence including copies of your passport pages that show the identification page and admission stamps; however secondary evidence is requested.

This secondary evidence may be airline ticket stubs and receipts (that include month, day, and year), ATM and credit card transactions, flight itinerary on airline/travel agency letterhead, etc.

NOTE: Secondary evidence is used to support any primary evidence that has been submitted. The following DOES NOT constitute evidence of meeting: photos (dated or undated), disc, videos, emails, letters, phone bills, and greeting cards."

Reading this very carefully I see the phrase "preceding the filing of the petition". Soooo...this means I have to submit something from between when we started dating in January 2008 and when we submitted the petition in July 2008?

Ideas:

1.We are taking our first trip together in a few weeks, from Dec 30-Jan 10. Will submitting the currently unused (but purchased by me with both our names on them) tickets for this trip do anything for us? I am not sure I have the receipt, but I can dig around.

2. Can I contact our employer and have them write a letter on company letterhead saying that we worked there simultaneously until July 1, 2008??

We did not travel together during that time. We lived in the same city, we were busy with work and saving for the 129F; we went on friggin dates.

3.Will submitting email receipts of my flights between the US and Bogota (arriving in Jan 08 and leaving July 08 to visit my family) be useful? They were all e-tickets...

I realize this does not prove that we met, but for the love of god, I have a work visa for his employer :blink: in my passport and flew in and out of the city where he lives. I really don't know what more to submit.

Also, credit/ATM receipts for WHAT?

The kicker is I am in the US til the 30th, he's in Colombia, they want this evidence by Jan 4.

Sheesh.

Thanks as always, VJ Team....

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Printing out the e-tickets is a good idea, also the letter from the employer is excellent. :thumbs: Re-send copies of the stamps in your passport and photos of you two together. Send the bank statements from Colombia. Then write a cover letter detailing what dates you were in Columbia and how you met at work and spent time together. That all should be enough to get you an approval. :star:

***Nagaraju & Eileen***
K1 (Fiance Visa)
Oct 18, 2006: NOA1
Feb 8, 2007: NOA2
April 13, 2007: INTERVIEW in Chennai -Approved
May 25, 2007: USA Arrival! EAD at JFK
June 15, 2007: Married
AOS (Adjustment of Status)
June 21, 2007: AOS/EAD Submitted
Sept 18, 2007: AOS Interview - APPROVED!!
ROC (Removing of Conditions)
June 23, 2009: Sent in I-751 packet
Sept 11, 2009: APPROVED!!
Sept 18, 2009: Received 10-year Green Card!

Naturalization
July 15, 2010: Sent N-400 packet
July 23, 2010: NOA Notice date
Oct 15, 2010: Citizenship Interview - Passed!
Nov 15, 2010: Oath Ceremony in Fresno, CA
Nov 24, 2010: Did SSN and Applied for Passport
Dec 6, 2010: Passport Arrives
Dec 7, 2010: Sent for Indian Passport Surrender Certificate
Dec 27, 2010: Surrender Certificate Arrives
Jan 3, 2011: Sent for Overseas Citizenship of India Card
March 1, 2011: Received OCI card!

Divorce

Feb 2015:​ Found out he was cheating (prostitutes / escorts)

​May 2015: Divorce Final

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Really the only thing you can do is send them what they want, thats the bottom line. If you already sent all what you sd, send it again. either it got seperated somehow, or they missed it.

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