Golly gee! Messiah can lie shamelessly too

[no name 1]

We hijacked the thread.

[Pooky 3,874]

We hijacked the thread.

Do you know why there are only plain cookies left in your jar?

'Cos I ate all the one with chocolate chips while you weren't looking.

[luckytxn 2,265]

Why bless his Socialist heart.

He's claiming he is gonna be a fiscal conservative.

Keep sniffing his ### you sheep.

GREEN BAY, Wis. - Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama moved to claim the mantle of fiscal responsibility in a roiling economy, vowing on Monday to slash federal spending on contractors by 10 percent and saving $40 billion.

Urging members of his own party to be just as fiscally tough as the most conservative Republicans, Obama said the $700 billion economic bailout plan proposed by the Bush administration and congressional leaders is forcing a renewed look at federal spending.

As president, Obama said he would create a White House team headed by a chief performance officer to monitor the efficiency of government spending.

"I am not a Democrat who believes that we can or should defend every government program just because it's there," Obama said at a rally in Green Bay. "We will fire government managers who aren't getting results, we will cut funding for programs that are wasting your money and we will use technology and lessons from the private sector to improve efficiency across every level of government."

"The only way we can do all this without leaving our children with an even larger debt is if Washington starts taking responsibility for every dime that it spends," he said.

Obama focused tightly on the economy in recent days, and he has urged Democrats and Republicans to join forces to approve a bailout of the troubled financial industry that not only saves the industry but protects taxpayers.

"We are here because an ethic of irresponsibility has swept through our government, leaving politicians with the belief they can waste billions and billions of your money on no-bid contracts for friends and contributors, slip pork projects into bills during the dead of night and spend billions on corporate tax breaks we can't afford and old programs we don't need," said Obama.

He linked the turmoil that's rocked Wall Street to federal spending he said has soared out of control, laying the blame at the feet of Republican policies he argued that rival John McCain is certain to continue.

President Bush ran for office on a platform of efficiency in government, Obama said, noting that Bush instead has presided over a mushrooming federal budget and deficits. Under Bush, spending on contractors has more than doubled, from $203 billion in 2000 to $412 billion in 2006.

"We cannot give a blank check to Washington with no oversight and accountability, when no oversight and accountability is what got us into this mess in the first place," said Obama. He warned that even as the government moves to bail out the financial sector there are signs that special interests are looking to profit.

Obama said he's spent the last two years running for president on a promise of change, and he mocked McCain's argument he can bring change to Washington.

"This whole change thing must be catching on," said Obama. "I've noticed that John McCain is trying to steal my signs. He trying to make up for 26 years in 26 hours. Who do you think has been running the government for the last eight years?"

He accused McCain of "an election-year conversion" that's brought change into his rhetoric.

"After 26 years of being part of this Washington culture, all that he has changed is his slogan for the fall campaign," said Obama.

McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds quickly dismissed Obama's speech as lacking substance. "After first promising a plan to address this economic crisis, all Barack Obama delivered for hardworking Americans was political attacks and a total lack of leadership," Bounds said.

Obama warned that the election is hard fought because special interests are fighting hard to keep their place at the table.

"It won't be easy, the kind of change we're looking for is never easy," said Obama. "What we are up against is a very powerful entrenched status quo in Washington who will say anything and do anything and fight with everything they've got to keep things just the way they are."

Obama spoke to 6,000 people in an arena in a state that trends Democratic, and where Obama badly needs a win.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The last fiscally responsible administration we had was that of a Democrat. When you buy into a GOP contender's fiscal responsibility bulshite, that's when you know you're sniffing some #######.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Why bless his Socialist heart.

You're so full of sh!t and you know it. Never answered my questions - couldn't come up with one government who exemplies total privatization. You're like one of those pull cord dolls...repeating the same stupid phrase over and over.

[luckytxn 2,265]

The last fiscally responsible administration we had was that of a Democrat. When you buy into a GOP contender's fiscal responsibility bulshite, that's when you know you're sniffing some #######.

Have to agree. When the great Socilaist himself and wife tried to force us to have total Socialized health care in the "Canadian model" was defeated, that had to have saved us from a hugely enlarged Socilaization of our country. Thank God saner heads prevented that. Also the taxes before they were reduced under the so called fiscal conservatives had to help a lot. Also reducing the military from what was already reduced from 35 to 18 divisions that was supposed to be the minimal needed to keep our treaties and safeguard us was decimated to a further 10 divisions. That was a huge savings for sure. We could definately handle that all again.

Edited September 23, 2008 by luckytxn

[luckytxn 2,265]

Why bless his Socialist heart.

You're so full of sh!t and you know it. Never answered my questions - couldn't come up with one government who exemplies total privatization. You're like one of those pull cord dolls...repeating the same stupid phrase over and over.

Too bad there is not a damn thing you can do to stop me from expressing my opinions is it?

Must be nice to be a sheep. Baaaaa Baaaaaa.

[IAMX 3,055]

This bloody stupid "Socialist" thing relating to Obama is just that -- stupid. Obama is as much of a Socialist as he is Chinese or Republican, or as much as McCain is young. One of your own conservatives, Virtual Wife, posted how even the top end of Wall Street has Obama's hand in their pockets -- which is a clear-cut corporatist just like McFvkface. Of course, simple minds cry Socialist because it's a convenient thing to call people you disagree with -- straight from the Dumb Age years of the Red Scare.

[Dan J 277]

Why bless his Socialist heart.

You're so full of sh!t and you know it. Never answered my questions - couldn't come up with one government who exemplies total privatization. You're like one of those pull cord dolls...repeating the same stupid phrase over and over.

Too bad there is not a damn thing you can do to stop me from expressing my opinions is it?

Must be nice to be a sheep. Baaaaa Baaaaaa.

Can you make a political point without calling someone a socialist?

Lets test your socialist knowledge with some trivia. Which well know socialist arranged for the government to buy/bailout Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and AIG? Hint, its not a Democrat.

[luckytxn 2,265]

Maybe this will explain things about my politics.

Hint: I think both parties are the same.

And no. I call them as I see them. Just because y;all are buying it all hook line and sinker does not mean I have to call off my beliefs.

Why America will become a socialist nation

By Tony DiPasquale

Several years ago, while living in New York, a friend from church told me an interesting story from her childhood in Cuba. As her story goes, a grade school teacher told the class to put their heads down and pray to God for candy. As expected, the children immediately lowered their heads in hopes of the sweet treats that would follow. Of course, when they raised their head they did so in disappointment, seeing no candy lying before them. At this point the teacher told the students to again lower their heads, but this time to ask Fidel Castro for candy. Surprise, surprise, when the kids lifted their heads they found candy in front of each of them.

So what is the purpose of this story, to tell you that Fidel has a "sweet" spot in his heart for children? Certainly not! But is this not similar to the action the Democrats are perpetrating upon the American people? Constantly we are told by Democrats to put our faith in them (by this they mean vote) and in return they will give us the "candy" of socialized medicine, security in retirement, and any other program that will leave us dependent upon government.

Even the late Norman Thomas, who was elated when he saw FDR embrace and even introduce many of the policies he had advocated in his run for President under the Socialist Party banner, was aware of the transformation of the Democrat Party. In fact he has been quoted as saying:

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." Norman Thomas, former U.S. Socialist Presidential Candidate

Well Norman had it mostly right. The exception is that it no longer requires liberalism to push forth the socialist agenda in this country. Today both parties are embracing this failed form of governance. The biggest difference today is that the Democrat Party is striving for these goals at break-neck speed while the Republicans choose a more incremental approach.

But can we truly put the blame only on the politicians? To do so would insinuate that we are having these ideals forced upon us. This clearly is not the case. For virtually every socialist-style, big government program put forth by Democrats there is a corresponding one made by Republicans. While the Democrats were fighting for universal health care, the Republicans were striving for a means of wealth redistribution cleverly disguised as the "faith-based" initiative. Now do not misunderstand me, I am fully in favor of religious groups helping the community. What I am opposed to is having them become another group that will subsequently lobby to put the government's paws inside our pockets. This says nothing of what the implications upon our churches could be. Remember, those who dish out the funds have control over the recipient.

And who can forget the prescription drug program given to us by the Republicans? Sure, they will defend it by saying that they were either "taking the issue away" from the Democrats or that it was smaller in scope then what the Democrats would have given us. Tell me again which party is in power? Why do Republicans always act as though they are David fighting Goliath when it comes to the Democrats and their policies? It is as if anything short of a complete Democrat victory should be applauded.

The sad truth is that politicians know that these programs buy them votes, both democrat and republican votes. Just look at the American people's unwillingness to accept responsibility for their own retirement. Rather than choosing to be the stewards of their own destiny they will do virtually anything to "save" the ponzi scheme known as Social Security. Until we, the people of the United States, can forego are own personal favorite programs how can we expect other programs to be cut back or eliminated?

Gone are the days when being an American meant individual responsibility. In fact, we have politicians today, such as Ted Kennedy, calling for a "war against individualism" and Hillary Clinton, telling us that "we must stop thinking of the individual." If we forego the individual then we are left with the "collective." Karl Marx would be proud of what we are becoming.

The only hope we have of stopping this juggernaut and returning to the freedom on which this country was founded is by educating others, demanding it from our representatives, and most importantly teaching it to our young. People claim they want freedom, yet are unwilling to accept the responsibility that comes with it.

[Cassie 8]

God forbid that we think of others before ourselves once in a while!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

God forbid that we think of others before ourselves once in a while!

Amen, sister.

[almaty 19]

socialism, ftw!

[Ban Hammer 14,269]

socialism, ftw!

the ak-47 is the firearm of choice for socialism, not the m-16

[almaty 19]

socialism, ftw!

the ak-47 is the firearm of choice for socialism, not the m-16

the gop jesus only uses american made assault rifles..not the commie ones used by socialists