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moroccogirlny
post Apr 4 2006, 07:52 AM
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I just got a call from Mouhcine, he got a 221g and it said:

your petition has been returned to the department of homeland security's Bureau of citizenship and immigration servece for further investigation . please contact the Bureau of citizentship and immigration service office where your petition as filed for addition information.


There was no AR/AP info on it. He had the notorious lady! Any help please?


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post Apr 5 2006, 11:36 AM
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Um but I really can see why she had big suspicions... Face it, the muslim world is anti-semetic, it's pretty rare if a muslim marries a jew... and the fact that she was born in Israel makes it worse.. but she should still keep her mind open that it is possible.. Maybe she's all bitter because all moroccan men want to leave their women behind?

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post Apr 5 2006, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE (iceyspots @ Apr 5 2006, 12:36 PM) *
Um but I really can see why she had big suspicions... Face it, the muslim world is anti-semetic, it's pretty rare if a muslim marries a jew... and the fact that she was born in Israel makes it worse.. but she should still keep her mind open that it is possible.. Maybe she's all bitter because all moroccan men want to leave their women behind?



This is the U.S. consulate however. Religion should not weigh into the decision period.


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post Apr 5 2006, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE (jenn3539 @ Apr 5 2006, 12:39 PM) *
QUOTE (iceyspots @ Apr 5 2006, 12:36 PM) *

Um but I really can see why she had big suspicions... Face it, the muslim world is anti-semetic, it's pretty rare if a muslim marries a jew... and the fact that she was born in Israel makes it worse.. but she should still keep her mind open that it is possible.. Maybe she's all bitter because all moroccan men want to leave their women behind?



This is the U.S. consulate however. Religion should not weigh into the decision period.


Isn't she a moroccan female CO ? I'm not trying to justify her actions, I'm trying to see if she's putting her personal beliefs into it.

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QUOTE (iceyspots @ Apr 5 2006, 09:36 PM) *

Um but I really can see why she had big suspicions... Face it, the muslim world is anti-semetic, it's pretty rare if a muslim marries a jew... and the fact that she was born in Israel makes it worse.. but she should still keep her mind open that it is possible.. Maybe she's all bitter because all moroccan men want to leave their women behind?


That is a ding dong thing to say considering YOU did not have your interview YET!!
I think you should be offering support you will need it too when you face your
221g.

let me see what are the odds of YOU getting the 221g fate. even if its not returned petiton but, seeing
a 221g lets see the odds.. here is a list of the T "26 "

Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Malaysia, Morocco, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, and Yemen.

looks to me like uhmm Algeria is on that list. so before you start pooping in your Corn flakes! I think you should start reading up on 221g and admin review process you are NOT out the of the woods yet my dear!



My source:

http://www.wolfsdorf.com/articles/Consular...50524.htm#_ftn5


btw, 221g is a TEMP denial. could be for many reasons. one thing we all face is 221g for security checks. some are on it
like 17 days some on it for 2 years < the longest I have seen on VJ>
those from the "T-7 or T-26 " country should expect addtional security checks.



If you have paid any attention to my previous posts anywhere about this lady, I am obviously NOT in support of her actions. I simply made a statement as to WHY she would've given the 221(g), NOT justifying her giving it out. My statement is only a speculation as to why. Now, for others, the reason may not be as apparent. I can see why the CO would doubt, I dont believe it's a good reasoning, but that could be HER reason. And it's not nice to "wish" or assume that just because somebody is sponsoring from a list of those countries, that they are going to get a 221(g).

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QUOTE (iceyspots @ Apr 5 2006, 11:36 AM) *

Um but I really can see why she had big suspicions... Face it, the muslim world is anti-semetic, it's pretty rare if a muslim marries a jew... and the fact that she was born in Israel makes it worse.. but she should still keep her mind open that it is possible..


This is actually completely untrue, although a commonly held fallacy (much of it, I must say, tirelessly promoted by Zionist idealogists and their supporters.) Most of the Muslim world is certainly anti-Zionist and anti-Israeli government policies, but this is not the same as being "anti-semitic" (hating Jewish people simply because they are Jewish.) The conflict between the two groups is over the right to real estate in Palestine, not over religious differences, although many would attempt to paint it that way in order to deflect criticism from Israel's repeated violations of international law. Historically, Islamic nations protected the Jewish people and their rights far more than Christian nations (whose political and religious leaders were indeed often notoriously "anti-semitic.")

I have spent a LOT of time in the West Bank. I have never EVER heard any Palestinian person condemn a Jewish person simply on the basis of religion. There are actually a considerable number of marriages between Muslim men and Jewish women. Some of these women convert to Islam, some do not. Since such couples are ostracized in Israel, with the husbands often refused even the right to live there, they often make their homes in the West Bank, where they are accepted without social censure.

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I'm not talking about just palestine... see I'm from Metro detroit and we have about hmm 270,000 muslims living here, Palestinians included, also Lebanese, Yemeni, Pakistani, Iraqi, Bengladeshi, Jordanian, Egyptian, Moroccans and Algerians as well...and I've only met a handfull that didn't express some kind of dislike of Jews or Zionism.. or most of the time, both. If only I had a quarter for every time I've heard one of them say, "You can eat their food, but you can't sleep in their bed." Not that I support those ideas at all, in fact, I tend to shy away from those people who have racist views towards the Jewish faith.
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