John&Juvy

It's not untrusting of me...but i am not naive either....its not all rainbows,ponies and and sugar plums even in the best of marriages.I get her reaction (she thinks I dont trust her)I believe marriage is for life....yet Im divorced once allready(not my choice either).I see both sides too..my side and her side.I just dont get the reaction and the refusal to talk about it...ahhh maybe it will blow over,but we still have to discuss it!

I think there are too many judgmental posts here. I agree with them but everyone should look at themselves first: what they did or did not do right.. Personally, I never had a problem like that but this post is not about what is right or wrong.. Returning to the question: I read one thread here before where someone was able to deliver while under I864. They were even able to obtain Medicaid. However, Medicaid made them pay back. I am not sure if you will be successful in paying back or obtaining medicaid. One thing that people do in this case is have a delivery and arrange payment plan with the provider. They some times allow you to have 10 year payment plan interest free. Never done it but it may be an option.

I don't usually get involved in others disputes or posts in this site. I come to get information to help me get my spouse into the country doing things the right way and without stupid errors that could make this transition longer. There is a new poster in this site, who has started a few very skeptical and obvious issues that would point towards someone who is asking far out questions to get answers to beat the immigration system. Working on using situations to pull heart strings to make people feel bad to help with ways to get around immigration and while you are using your best intentions, you are unintentionally helping that person to be fraudulent with immigration. I was banned from one of the posts for stating the obvious, I was called a troll and stupid, when I stated it was indeed the opposite I was the one removed ???
I could sit back and just let that person repeating turn out "hot" posts without responding but while I'm in this process I can't overlook the fact that this process takes this long because of people like this who ruin it for the rest of us. Just please , please , please don't get sucked into this person like I myself did!!
Let's pull together and if you go into the posts recently added by this vjer you will see that every advice is turned down in order to gather more information so that they can do things fraudulently. STOP helping!!!

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Ate - is what you call a girl who is older than you. Also known as eldest/elder sister.
Kuya - is what you call a guy who is older than you. Also known as eldest/elder brother.
We filipinos tend to call the vendors ate/kuya because we still want to address them when we talk to them.
**sorry off topic**

ewok is a busy man. if you don't want to be here, don't come here. if the temptation is too much. change your password...just close your eyes hit random keys, then hit enter. done.
good luck in your future sir.

Weird. I've seen plenty of Christian Republicans not get kicked out of threads. Oh well. Bye!
Same here. Imagine that.

Jeez - grow up. What are you - three?
There's life beyond the internet!

what? MARINES DON'T QUIT!

She only needs to prove that the marriage was entered into in good faith.
Husbands and wives are not commodities to be bought or sold, to be kept or returned. If she chooses to stay here then she can do so through a waiver filing, as stated above.

First off, it's pretty disconcerting that you would refer to a person as a "something" and it sounds like you are treating this like a shopping trip. I hope that this is just poorly written!
Second, you're previous marriage will probably raise red flags given its short duration. I don't know if there's a real rule, but like TJandJR said, try asking about it in the region specific forum.

Here and now married! :dance:

It's December 21st now in some part of asia including the Philippines.... Are we good now ?

Lots of women do that who aren't Filipinas. I do it. I would also leave in a heartbeat if he started yelling at me or snapped at me because I didn't feel like talking about something or opening up. He just sits there and waits me out. It is like a competition of the stronger wills.
It isn't necessarily passive aggressive, but in my old age of 25, I've learned not to get in yelling matches with people, bide my time and really think about the issue before discussing it. It is the sign of impulsiveness to just spit it all out without thinking about the consequences of your words or if you really mean them. It is especially a beneficial trait when you have a partner who can not control his emotions. In this case, she couldn't really win with arguing and escalating or shutting down and avoiding. What would you have done?

I'll be bit-shifting code.
If I'm still alive 10 hours later, I'm gonna open up my shop for a free day of welding.

Our experience with Report of Marriage (ROM) and passport renewal at the NYC embassy.
My wife was due to renew her Philippine passport before it expired. We live in NJ so traveled to NYC for this. As much as I researched and prepared ahead of time, we had a few surprises. So to hopefully help someone else, here is what we learned.
We wanted to have her passport show her new middle and last name so:
Downloaded the Report of marriage form from the official NYC embassy website: newyorkpcg.org. This is not the site linked from the main US Philippine embassy site. Also the forms seem to be custom per embassy, with at least the address completed at the top.
Filled it out in Microsoft Word and printed 4 copies.
Obtained 4 passport photos of myself, and 4 of my wife. Taped them to the 4 forms.
The only mistake I made on the ROM form was for the husband (USC) it asked for my mother’s maiden name in the place of middle name (Filipino name format). I did as it requested. Wrong, they wanted my middle name exactly as in my passport.
Made copies of her passport main page. My wife had traveled back to the Philippines so the I-94 was removed. Fortunately I had scanned her passport before she traveled, and had that page. They wanted the I-94 page copies (with visa), so don’t know what they would have done if I had not saved it.
Our Marriage Certificate does not show how many times we were each married, so went to the county clerk, and they gave me a stamped/certified copy of our marriage license. The clerk knew exactly what I needed.
If you are divorced, you will need to include a copy of your divorce papers. Note: this is not stated anywhere, but they will not accept the ROM without them. (Unfortunately I didn’t do this and took a while to fix)
Lastly since we did not submit this within 30 days of being married, we generated an Affidavit of delayed registration. This is the only thing that needs to be notarized. (copy is attached)
Note: all but the ROM forms are copies. They will want to see the originals for; Marriage Certificate, Marriage license, Divorce decree, Notarized Delayed registration. They look at these originals then give them back to you.
Downloaded the passport renewal form, filled it out in Microsoft word, and printed one.
There is also a form for passport amendment for name change. I filled it out and brought it with me just in case. It is not needed though. The ROM and passport renewal is all they need.
What is not clear is that they need another copy of the entire ROM package with the passport renewal form. So copy the ROM form (after attaching the pictures) and another complete copy of all ROM papers. (I didn’t do this, thinking I would get a receipt for the ROM to include. I was wrong and had to make copies of everything, including yet a 5th copy of my divorce decree.)
Of course I did not have enough copies of everything with me. Fortunately I had brought my binder of paperwork with me that had a copy of my divorce decree. Note: They have one copy machine there for $0.25 per page, so cost me about $20 in quarters to fix everything and since everyone else also needs it over an hour. If that machine breaks, everyone is out of luck.
At the embassy, on the 3rd floor we submitted the ROM. Signed all 4 originals of the ROM form in front of the person.
Was asked to see all the original documents and our two passports, checked off they saw them and returned to us all the originals and passports.
Then, Submitted the Passport renewal, my wife signed this in front of the person.
We chose to not pick the new passport up in person so had her passport cancelled. They punched holes in it and gave it back to us.
Paid at the cashier.
Went to the basement for Boimetrics.
As we chose to not pick the new passport up in person, gave the Boimetrics person a prepaid USPS envelope. We just went to the post office and asked what we needed. They gave us one of the priority mail cardboard envelopes, attached a green tracking confirmation, and added a little under $6 in stamps. We put our address on it. The wall at biometrics had examples of this. What they didn’t tell us is if you don’t want to go back to pick up the processed ROM, you can have it sent with the passport. Just write on the inside flap of the envelope “Please include ROM”, and they will send both together. They forgot to tell us upstairs, but we were lucky and our biometrics person asked us about this.
Done. Now just waiting 6-8 weeks for delivery
Affidavit of delayed registration.doc

I am not saying is your case but i notice here that a lot but a LOT of women from some Countries as soon they start dating the american citizen they start sending money to pay the girl food,cellphone,school,clothes etc...how did they survive before finding the guy with blue passport????I can understand if your wife is waiting to get the visa and became unemployed but I saw here in the VJ people dating just a few months or just engaged and started sending money.People need to make sure their partners are in the relationship for the right reason.In your case I would not give more than 2k.Today was her brother, maybe tomorrow might be her mother,father,her niece,nephew....How sure are you that the guy in the picture is her brother? I am just saying...We see here almost every week in the VJ people scammed.I handled hundreds of case that the beneficiary got in the USA and after 7 days,30 days,60days just vanished.

20k.... are we talking pesos here or dollars?

(Steve here) As a registered nurse (RN) by trade, frankly, I'm conufsed. (As was pigmonk) Few surgeries in RP cost 420,000PHP. Triple bypass (CABG) does cost about 840,000PHP and the price is similar for a kidney transplant, and that's at St. Luke's probably the highest cost hospital in RP. And for the person who stated that heart surgery cost US$40,000 well, I remember Juliet saying no to a fella as we got off the ferry between Cebu and Bohol and when I said: "Why'd you tell the cabbie no?" Well, she said "He wanted 400 peso for the fare, we'll walk around the corner and it'll be 120 peso", so I don't doubt you, but frankly whoever paid that much probably didn't need to because it should have cost one half or one quarter that much. See: http://www.phc.gov.ph/services/treatment.php or google using keywords "cabg triple-bypass and philippine cost"
I find myself asking what kind of surgery will cost this fellow 420,000PHP that has not already killed him? Though I'll admit it can be possible with muliple fractures especially involving the hip and if he's bound up like a mummy that might be the case.
If it were me I'd want to know quite a lot more about just what this surgery is and I'd want to hear about it from a doctor, not from a famuily member. And I'd absolutely want any money to be sent to be transferred to a medical facility--not to a family member. I might try to find a local doctor outside the hospital and pay the fellow a few hundred $US to go visit, and simply act as a go-between. It may be a few hundred well spent.
Consider this: The average salary for a RN in the Phils is $406 per month. (2004 was the most recent that I could find a good list, I'm sure it's more today) Thus $10,000 is as much as a professional nurse working in Manila makes is 69 years. The average salary for an engineer is $406US/month, thus this surgery would use up the entire 24 years of income for a professional engineer working in Manila. The point here is that if this were the child of an engineer or an RN--he/she would be extremely hard pressed to be able to pay for it.
I cringe to say it but even the "round number" of ten thousand dollars raises a red flag for me. Note: I'm not saying you are being fleeced, a red flag is a warning--not a conviction.
As far as suggestions of pay a portion, uh--I'm not sure that's wise. If 420,000PHP is truly necessary for a string of ortho (bone) surgeries, what good is sending 50,000PHP going to do? Maybe fix one leg and leave the broken hip and back still fractured?
Juliet and I have already discussed that aspect of finance. I can afford $200/month to go to the support of her family. That's her job--to be a good daughter--to support the family, that's the way it is in RP. And $200/month is more than her entire income would be if she was a professional RN working at a major hospital. ( If at some time she starts working (and that's up to her) she can then send as much as she wants. But Juliet is wise, one reason that I adore her, and she has already seen what happens when her sister sends "too much." And so one brother has turned into a vegetable instead of finding whatever job he can and what good is that? It's all a balancing act.
As far as "emergencies" we've discussed that too--I brought it up and my take is that when she is here we'll put $100 a month inta a savings account and let it grow for eventual emergencies that will undoudtedly materialize. Then we will use it based upon triage.
Triage: (from thefreedictionary.com)
1. A process for sorting injured people into groups based on their need for or likely benefit from immediate medical treatment. Triage is used in hospital emergency rooms, on battlefields, and at disaster sites when limited medical resources must be allocated.
2. A system used to allocate a scarce commodity, such as food, only to those capable of deriving the greatest benefit from it.
It's a rough place to be especially as it's her brother, and I hope it all works out for the best in the end. It truly is hard for many of us to come to the realization that in RP if you don't have the cash, there are times when it is simple: you die, or suffer till you do.
And as an American who just yesterday got notice that my job is gone as of Jan 11th--along with my medical insurance I wonder how soon the same scenario (pay up or die) will be coming to America. (And yes I'm taking Obamacare into account when I say that). Be careful--help if you can, but remember money gone today may be money that you need for your spouse or child in the future. Good luck.

Well, assuming the OP sincerely wanted to know the answer to his original post, I can relate. When I first met Jena in a chat room in 2005 I didn't know anything about her or her home country. I searched any source I could find and started asking questions. I'll give the OP the benefit of the doubt here. I have nothing to lose by believing him other than a few minutes to answer his question.

Honestly trolling or baiting is not my intention, I found this site from another Philippine related forum. I figured this would be a good place to ask compared to the other forum because this forum is more marriage orientated.
I am a new member to this board however I didn't think it was a sensitive question and felt that it would give me and others insight as if I should consider getting married or not. I am just being a bit proactive and trying to judge from others experiences who have been down the road before me. I have always found you can learn alot this way and avoid many potential problems simply by asking the right questions.

Bring the expired greencard and tje extension letter from nvc. Also marriage certificate, specially if your last name in greencard is different from passport.

Sorry to read your story.
'I'm wondering if I can get another one from the Philippines after I divorce'
Interesting wording...like a commodity? I should imagine looking for 'another one' should be the furthest thing from your mind right now.

It's an "Engagement Ring" wear it if you have one, that's what it is for. It is more not normal if you are engaged and have the ring and but not wearing it lol. Just dont wear 2 necklaces, 8 rings and 4 bracelets at the same time, then your good.

very poetic you should look into writing a book. go to your library and start there.