Alekezam

My fiancee chose to have her passport and package sent to one of optional locations that were given to her when she filled out the DS-160 rather than to have it sent to a personal address. In this case it was a location in the Kyiv. A business center in the Forum Plaza to be exact. 
 
We both felt it to be too risky to send everything to a personal address so opted to go that route. 
 
She picked her passport and package up yesterday (10/24). The interview was last Thursday (10/18) so it took 6 days from the interview to pick up. 
 
The CEAC Status tracker is a good resource. Once the interview is complete it should change from "Ready" to "Administrative Processing". This happens either the same day or the day after the interview. It will then change to "Issued" a few days later. I suspect when it does that means they have mailed out everything. 
 
You will also get an email from them around the same time that the CEAC Tracker changes to "Issued" notifying you that your package has been mailed out (contains mailing address that you chose or optional location) along with a tracking number.
 
So in summary, if you chose to pick it up at a location you can expect to get it within about 6-7 days of your interview. Not entirely sure how long it takes if you had it sent to your home or other personal address but I imagine it would take around the same time or a little longer. 
 
Hope that helps!
 
Congrats on the approval!

My fiancee chose to have her passport and package sent to one of optional locations that were given to her when she filled out the DS-160 rather than to have it sent to a personal address. In this case it was a location in the Kyiv. A business center in the Forum Plaza to be exact. 
 
We both felt it to be too risky to send everything to a personal address so opted to go that route. 
 
She picked her passport and package up yesterday (10/24). The interview was last Thursday (10/18) so it took 6 days from the interview to pick up. 
 
The CEAC Status tracker is a good resource. Once the interview is complete it should change from "Ready" to "Administrative Processing". This happens either the same day or the day after the interview. It will then change to "Issued" a few days later. I suspect when it does that means they have mailed out everything. 
 
You will also get an email from them around the same time that the CEAC Tracker changes to "Issued" notifying you that your package has been mailed out (contains mailing address that you chose or optional location) along with a tracking number.
 
So in summary, if you chose to pick it up at a location you can expect to get it within about 6-7 days of your interview. Not entirely sure how long it takes if you had it sent to your home or other personal address but I imagine it would take around the same time or a little longer. 
 
Hope that helps!
 
Congrats on the approval!

Our case left the NVC on 9/27 and we got packet 4 in the form of an email on 10/5 so it took about 8 days for the physical case to reach the embassy. I had my fiancee schedule her interview at least two weeks out just to be safe. 
 
You may have been a little too optimistic when you scheduled your interview since you only allowed for 4 days of shipping time. But, no worries, it is easy to reschedule. There really isn't any backlog at the Kyiv embassy so you shouldn't have any problem scheduling another interview you may just delay yourself back by a week or two. 
 
We originally were approved way back in May. Our case made it all the way to the Embassy and we had an interview scheduled in July only to have our interview canceled abruptly and case sent back to the USCIS (added an extra 5 months to our timeline) all because of a clerical mistake the USCIS made. Most frustrating thing ever that I'm now glad to put in the past. Long story short, we weren't sure about the whole process of rescheduling the interview but it turns out the confirmation receipt and medical are both good for a year. The only thing you really need to pay attention to is the expiration date on your NOA2 which is 3 months from the date of issue. 
 
So it's actually okay to set up your interview before you receive packet 4 if you're dealing with Kyiv Embassy as it's not very busy and rescheduling is easy to do. My advice would be to just make sure you give yourself enough time once the packet leaves the NVC (2 weeks to be safe). 
 
A good way to check if they've also received your actual physical case is to check the CEAC tracker site. Look at the date it was last touched. For example, once the embassy receives the electronic file the date will change and it will say "Ready", Take note of that date because when it changes again that almost more than likely means they got your physical package.
 
Your case went to ready on Oct 18th....has the date of the last time they last touched it changed yet? If not they either have not received it or they have received but have not yet processed it yet. 
 
Hope that helps. If you need anything else let me know. 
 
 

1. I would include the loan only because it's a line item they ask for. I put in my mortgage which is a relatively large amount. 
2. I concur with John951, go to a Bank of America branch and they can either print out your averages or your bank statements for the past 12 months with an official letter and signature on letterhead. 
3. One year is sufficient. I did research on this and they only require additional years from a sponsor if you use one. 
4. Depending on your pay frequency I'd send it 4 to 5 stubs dating back at least 4 months.  i,e. I get paid every week so I took one pay stub for each month dating back 4 months from present. 
 
You'll definitely need to get an official letter from HR that shows your current annual salary and start date of employment. 
 
I didn't worry too much about the loan/debt part as I have assets and savings that far exceed that amount so I can see why there might be some hesitation on your end. Maybe someone else can chime in on this but from what I can tell it's never a good idea to try to conceal information that they ask for as it could bite you in the end and I'd hate for that to happen. 
 
Try to include as many brokerage, checking, savings, etc. accounts as you can as that will further solidify your status and negate the loan issue. 
 
My fiancee just had her interview this morning and she was approved.
 
I see we are dealing with the same embassy/consulate so if you need help let me know. 
 
 

Hello everyone,
 
I was just curious as to if anything changed with my status at NVC. To my surprise it has changed. I'm so excited and happy.
 

This is another instance of everyone saying something can't be done without providing any verifiable evidence of support aside from their opinion. 
 
Case in point. I was told you absolutely have to have an NOA2 hardcopy receipt or your can't proceed with AOS by so many on here....well guess what? I blindly listened without checking all the facts and ended up screwing myself over as an inquiry for a hardcopy of an NOA2 hardcopy resulted in my fiance getting her interview cancelled last minute and our case being recalled by the USCIS back to the US from the embassy all because of my inquiry only to find out you don't even need it. This added another an extra 2 months to our wait time when all was said and done. I had to cancel and rearrange all sorts of plans because of it. 
 
So, if the embassy gives a sheet of paper such as this one to you and it clearly states something that so many people apparently disagree with then what constitutes as an opinion and a fact. 
 
In my world, a fact is something that comes straight from the source. And I trust that over an opinion any day. i.e. If I ask someone what the price of a movie ticket is at a specific location and they tell me it's $20 but then go to the theater and they say it's $10....well guess what, I'm not going to argue with them and say it's $20. 
 
So if your letter says that you can potentially get a authorization to work at POE then ask when you arrive since it clearly states that in the letter you received. If at POE they say "no, we decide it's not in our best interest to grant you that or no, we don't do that anymore" then you have your answer and can report back to us. This gives us more hard evidence for these questions. 
 
I for one don't see any harm in asking. 
 
That's how you build facts, through experiences. 
 
No need to be confused, you are right in that there is that possibility if it clearly says so. 
 
 

There really isn't any procedure other than to wait. 
 
I wrote to both Ombudsman and the local Congressman and got responses from neither which basically leaves me to believe that they are about as helpful as a lawyer. 
 
The only actual communication I had with the USCIS was me calling and emailing them. The emails were iffy as I never received any replies other than the standard cut and paste responses. 
 
Whenever I called I got a different answer ranging from "don't worry you'll get it soon" to "you need to be patient and wait" all the way to "we never approved your application, I don't know where you're getting your information from" and even a "sorry, I can't help you because I can't see your case, you'll need to contact the service center directly, (CSC) here's their email address".  And these were all Tier 2 Officers. I won't even discuss Tier 1 as those people basically only see what we can see on the old and new tracking websites (basically nothing). So every time I called to check up I had to butter up the Tier 1 operators for a bit before they would finally send me over to a Tier 2...dumb. You would think they would at least try to maintain some sort of consistency by directing inquiries from the same cases to the same officers to avoid having to start the explanation from the beginning every single time. 
 
So that's my experience in a nutshell from the time the embassy shot back our case to USCIS to now. 
 
In conclusion, if your case happens to make it to the NVC and is sent to the embassy despite not having received your NOA2 receipt.....just proceed without doing anything. Don't, I repeat, don't call/write the USCIS, Congressman, or anyone else for that matter to ask why because if you do, the USCIS will recall your case and you'll be stuck waiting an additional month or more if that. 
 
You don't need your NOA2 receipt hardcopy. 
 
 

Posting an update to our situation after that whole fiasco with the USCIS and not ever getting our NOA2 hardcopy due to a mistake on their end. 
 
So after having gotten all the way to the point of having an interview scheduled only to have our case sent back to the USCIS from the embassy we finally got a hardcopy of our NOA2. I've updated my timeline. There's no way to reflect the oddball events of our case so I'm treating it as if we never got an approval way back in June and it was just barely approved now.  You can read up on my older posts to see what I'm talking about as I don't feel like re-hashing the past all over again. I'm just happy we finally got something. 
 
NOA1 Received : 11/8/17
NOA2 Received : 8/3/18
 
Old website still says received 11/8/17.....ridiculous
New website says approved 8/3/18
 
A whopping 270 days from start to finish....again, ridiculous
 
I still don't consider us quite in the clear yet so just praying that we don't have any more out of ordinary experiences. 
 
Good luck to those who are waiting still. 
 
This process takes patience to a whole new level. 
 

Posting an update to our situation after that whole fiasco with the USCIS and not ever getting our NOA2 hardcopy due to a mistake on their end. 
 
So after having gotten all the way to the point of having an interview scheduled only to have our case sent back to the USCIS from the embassy we finally got a hardcopy of our NOA2. I've updated my timeline. There's no way to reflect the oddball events of our case so I'm treating it as if we never got an approval way back in June and it was just barely approved now.  You can read up on my older posts to see what I'm talking about as I don't feel like re-hashing the past all over again. I'm just happy we finally got something. 
 
NOA1 Received : 11/8/17
NOA2 Received : 8/3/18
 
Old website still says received 11/8/17.....ridiculous
New website says approved 8/3/18
 
A whopping 270 days from start to finish....again, ridiculous
 
I still don't consider us quite in the clear yet so just praying that we don't have any more out of ordinary experiences. 
 
Good luck to those who are waiting still. 
 
This process takes patience to a whole new level. 
 

Not really, prior to making the inquiry I should have asked my brother about his experience in this similar situation. 
 
He misplaced his NOA2 and  despite not submitting it had no issues with the AOS process. His wife got her greencard and is happily living here with him now for over 5  years now. 
 
No doubt it's way better to have it and to submit it then not but if you run into a situation such as mine and you either never receive it or lose it, that's not enough to jack up the whole process. 
 
Also, here is a thread from the past that talks on the subject. 
 
So I respectfully disagree, my statement is not false. 
 
 

OH WOW. 
Many Congrats to you finally,  really happy for you !!!
I know the wait is killing, I am too still waiting not as long as you though  Day 225 here.
All the very best to you. I hope the rest of the process goes very quickly like maybe 10 days.

Congratulations....  
I been watching u from a distance. Yes u got screwed badly by uscis. Glad it's working out in the end. Hopefully no more speed bumps along the way for the both of u..  

Congrats on your NOA2. I hope everything is smooth sailing from here on. *big hugs*

Geez, I am not implying that you can easily get one at POE or even get one for that matter. 
 
I get that. 
 
I am only shedding light to the question of clarification in what is stated in the document they received from the Embassy that the original poster asked. 
 
Realistically, no way they will give one out at POE.
 
But that doesn't negate the fact that the document says there is a possibility even if it's 0.000000001% chance.
 
 
 
 

No, I don't have evidence, but that's not the point I was trying to make. 
 
My point is, they gave them documentation that says it is possible. 
 
Whether or not it is something that currently happens or the last time that it happened was 10 years ago still doesn't negate an actual statement on an official document provided from the source. 
 
Show me an official document that states otherwise and I'll agree. 
 
I am not disputing the argument that it will almost certainly not happen. I am simply pointing out that they (the government needs to update their forms) to clarify. 

Agreed

This is another instance of everyone saying something can't be done without providing any verifiable evidence of support aside from their opinion. 
 
Case in point. I was told you absolutely have to have an NOA2 hardcopy receipt or your can't proceed with AOS by so many on here....well guess what? I blindly listened without checking all the facts and ended up screwing myself over as an inquiry for a hardcopy of an NOA2 hardcopy resulted in my fiance getting her interview cancelled last minute and our case being recalled by the USCIS back to the US from the embassy all because of my inquiry only to find out you don't even need it. This added another an extra 2 months to our wait time when all was said and done. I had to cancel and rearrange all sorts of plans because of it. 
 
So, if the embassy gives a sheet of paper such as this one to you and it clearly states something that so many people apparently disagree with then what constitutes as an opinion and a fact. 
 
In my world, a fact is something that comes straight from the source. And I trust that over an opinion any day. i.e. If I ask someone what the price of a movie ticket is at a specific location and they tell me it's $20 but then go to the theater and they say it's $10....well guess what, I'm not going to argue with them and say it's $20. 
 
So if your letter says that you can potentially get a authorization to work at POE then ask when you arrive since it clearly states that in the letter you received. If at POE they say "no, we decide it's not in our best interest to grant you that or no, we don't do that anymore" then you have your answer and can report back to us. This gives us more hard evidence for these questions. 
 
I for one don't see any harm in asking. 
 
That's how you build facts, through experiences. 
 
No need to be confused, you are right in that there is that possibility if it clearly says so. 
 
 

Everybody please disregard everything I have written. 
 
I am obviously wrong on every aspect. 
 
I thought I was providing useful information and advice but apparently I've only attracted confrontation so I'll just keep my thoughts to myself from here on out. 
 
Again, good luck to those of you who are still going through the process. 
 
 

Posting an update to our situation after that whole fiasco with the USCIS and not ever getting our NOA2 hardcopy due to a mistake on their end. 
 
So after having gotten all the way to the point of having an interview scheduled only to have our case sent back to the USCIS from the embassy we finally got a hardcopy of our NOA2. I've updated my timeline. There's no way to reflect the oddball events of our case so I'm treating it as if we never got an approval way back in June and it was just barely approved now.  You can read up on my older posts to see what I'm talking about as I don't feel like re-hashing the past all over again. I'm just happy we finally got something. 
 
NOA1 Received : 11/8/17
NOA2 Received : 8/3/18
 
Old website still says received 11/8/17.....ridiculous
New website says approved 8/3/18
 
A whopping 270 days from start to finish....again, ridiculous
 
I still don't consider us quite in the clear yet so just praying that we don't have any more out of ordinary experiences. 
 
Good luck to those who are waiting still. 
 
This process takes patience to a whole new level. 
 

This is another instance of everyone saying something can't be done without providing any verifiable evidence of support aside from their opinion. 
 
Case in point. I was told you absolutely have to have an NOA2 hardcopy receipt or your can't proceed with AOS by so many on here....well guess what? I blindly listened without checking all the facts and ended up screwing myself over as an inquiry for a hardcopy of an NOA2 hardcopy resulted in my fiance getting her interview cancelled last minute and our case being recalled by the USCIS back to the US from the embassy all because of my inquiry only to find out you don't even need it. This added another an extra 2 months to our wait time when all was said and done. I had to cancel and rearrange all sorts of plans because of it. 
 
So, if the embassy gives a sheet of paper such as this one to you and it clearly states something that so many people apparently disagree with then what constitutes as an opinion and a fact. 
 
In my world, a fact is something that comes straight from the source. And I trust that over an opinion any day. i.e. If I ask someone what the price of a movie ticket is at a specific location and they tell me it's $20 but then go to the theater and they say it's $10....well guess what, I'm not going to argue with them and say it's $20. 
 
So if your letter says that you can potentially get a authorization to work at POE then ask when you arrive since it clearly states that in the letter you received. If at POE they say "no, we decide it's not in our best interest to grant you that or no, we don't do that anymore" then you have your answer and can report back to us. This gives us more hard evidence for these questions. 
 
I for one don't see any harm in asking. 
 
That's how you build facts, through experiences. 
 
No need to be confused, you are right in that there is that possibility if it clearly says so. 
 
 

Posting an update to our situation after that whole fiasco with the USCIS and not ever getting our NOA2 hardcopy due to a mistake on their end. 
 
So after having gotten all the way to the point of having an interview scheduled only to have our case sent back to the USCIS from the embassy we finally got a hardcopy of our NOA2. I've updated my timeline. There's no way to reflect the oddball events of our case so I'm treating it as if we never got an approval way back in June and it was just barely approved now.  You can read up on my older posts to see what I'm talking about as I don't feel like re-hashing the past all over again. I'm just happy we finally got something. 
 
NOA1 Received : 11/8/17
NOA2 Received : 8/3/18
 
Old website still says received 11/8/17.....ridiculous
New website says approved 8/3/18
 
A whopping 270 days from start to finish....again, ridiculous
 
I still don't consider us quite in the clear yet so just praying that we don't have any more out of ordinary experiences. 
 
Good luck to those who are waiting still. 
 
This process takes patience to a whole new level. 
 

Geez, I am not implying that you can easily get one at POE or even get one for that matter. 
 
I get that. 
 
I am only shedding light to the question of clarification in what is stated in the document they received from the Embassy that the original poster asked. 
 
Realistically, no way they will give one out at POE.
 
But that doesn't negate the fact that the document says there is a possibility even if it's 0.000000001% chance.
 
 
 
 

This is another instance of everyone saying something can't be done without providing any verifiable evidence of support aside from their opinion. 
 
Case in point. I was told you absolutely have to have an NOA2 hardcopy receipt or your can't proceed with AOS by so many on here....well guess what? I blindly listened without checking all the facts and ended up screwing myself over as an inquiry for a hardcopy of an NOA2 hardcopy resulted in my fiance getting her interview cancelled last minute and our case being recalled by the USCIS back to the US from the embassy all because of my inquiry only to find out you don't even need it. This added another an extra 2 months to our wait time when all was said and done. I had to cancel and rearrange all sorts of plans because of it. 
 
So, if the embassy gives a sheet of paper such as this one to you and it clearly states something that so many people apparently disagree with then what constitutes as an opinion and a fact. 
 
In my world, a fact is something that comes straight from the source. And I trust that over an opinion any day. i.e. If I ask someone what the price of a movie ticket is at a specific location and they tell me it's $20 but then go to the theater and they say it's $10....well guess what, I'm not going to argue with them and say it's $20. 
 
So if your letter says that you can potentially get a authorization to work at POE then ask when you arrive since it clearly states that in the letter you received. If at POE they say "no, we decide it's not in our best interest to grant you that or no, we don't do that anymore" then you have your answer and can report back to us. This gives us more hard evidence for these questions. 
 
I for one don't see any harm in asking. 
 
That's how you build facts, through experiences. 
 
No need to be confused, you are right in that there is that possibility if it clearly says so.