Just wanted to post it here as well since we had a lot of conversations on a subject in this thread: 

Guys I just got back from I info pass that I made specifically to figure out where my case at since I'm just like all of us got "case transferred to the local office" updates. 

After looking at my statuses and checking in his system IO told me straight up "this update makes no sence. Must be something wrong with computer system. You case is definetely still at CSC. Don't pay attention to online updates because it's clearly wrong. The only real update you should pay attention to is going to come at the mailbox: RFE, interview or approval. Your case has been at CSC since the date you filed and it's stays there as it showing at our system." 

Then I said there is thousands cases with the same exactl status and he told me well, as I said, it's something wrong with computer system. No mass transfers to local offices ever happened.

So, now I finally can sit back and relax knowing my strong guess about the glitch is confirmed and just patiently wait my turn at Cali.

Now, case that got transferred to National Benefits Center indeed have a legit updates: but even a wording on this updates is different from a local office transfer thing. 

I see no surprise in it since CSC does not process n 400 and it's required in person interview regardless. So yea, these cases MUST be transferred at some point. 

But whoever did not received an update ( and a mail!) about it and did not have a combo case going, that Case transfer to local office thing IS A GLITCH.

finally, sorted out. 

Stay patient, stay positive, your case is just waiting your turn at Cervice center. 

Guys I just got back from I info pass that I made specifically to figure out where my case at since I'm just like all of us got "case transferred to the local office" updates. 

After looking at my statuses and checking in his system IO told me straight up "this update makes no sence. Must be something wrong with computer system. You case is definetely still at CSC. Don't pay attention to online updates because it's clearly wrong. The only real update you should pay attention to is going to come at the mailbox: RFE, interview or approval. Your case has been at CSC since the date you filed and it's stays there as it showing at our system." 

Then I said there is thousands cases with the same exactl status and he told me well, as I said, it's something wrong with computer system. No mass transfers to local offices ever happened.

So, now I finally can sit back and relax knowing my strong guess about the glitch is confirmed and just patiently wait my turn at Cali.

1 hour ago, shell20 said:

Correct not only Febs, however no glitch! Unless a glitch/virus/bug self delivers itself to the mail box as it did for two people today.

They got totally different status and mail update about their case going to National benefit center as it's should due to combo 751 and 400 since it's required an interview. It has nothing to do with mass glitch about "transferred to local office". People who choose not to apply for n400 still having their cases at cervice centers, even though they got the same glitch. 5 people got approval today from CSC, which processing cases from September 2016. All of them has same exactly statuses as majority of us on VJ. 

Thete was no mass transfer to local offices. 

Btw, I have infopass in like 12 hours. W

1 hour ago, shell20 said:

Also, another reason why I had to leave and take time out is, I did the same last time,I thought I had answered your post when it was not you who  had said it.  I hated the fact that the mad person quoted you and was awful to you and also Positive Thinker.

 

I tried my hardest to placate the conversation and protect you and PositiveThinker from such rubbish and untruths. However, it backfired. i swore at them (not acceptable). I did not want to cause a scene and get barred because I SO wanted to protect everyone on VJ,  However, it back fired.

Totally off topic, but that person simply just made me laugh, especially name change after ban and complimenting himself like it's another person taking was hilarious. But thank you for looking out! When facing negativity, just laugh it off, and it's going to bring you nothing but positive vibes.

1 hour ago, StewandKeba said:

It has been mostly Feb. filers who have been transferred, not Sept. filers.

 You can't be serious. Hundred thousands cases got the same exact glitch with "local office" in each and every thread here on VJ. 

22 minutes ago, shell20 said:

Oh is it moving, I predicted this and It WILL happen! I just know.

 

Yes September moving as scheduled! Based on the last update, CSC is on September now! So it's not like it's getting speed up ( I hope it would!) but the fact that it's moving and NOT transferred to local as I predicted makes me very happy !:)

19 minutes ago, shell20 said:

Scazy not sure why i get your particular posts mixed up, every singular time.  You mean not a glitch? I need to go back to the beginning of threads, right?

Love your new name!

What you mean mixed up though? I've been saying since the beginning status update we all got (local office transfer) is a glitch and finally here is a solid proof, as all approved fillers got letters from CSC and not a local office. And it's a great news to those who still waiting. I believe the only transfers that happening has a different messsge and notice like Positive thinker has received and it's related to n 400. 

what you mean my new name? It's been my name ever since I came to VJ 

im super confused 

2 hours ago, Mad rabbit said:

Not sure if you guys noticed, but today 5 people from sept 2016 CSC were approved and received letters. So there’s definitely a movement!

Right, I just posted about it myself. That amazing and finally shreds light to status thing, confirming it's a glitch indeed and it's a great news! Those fillers were due to get approved regardless, but one thing matters the most: approvals came from CSC even though they all got "case transferred to local office" bs. So Cali slowly  but surely moving through September as it's reflected on a timeline, and cases are still there ( except the combo cases)  yay!!!!

5 September 2016 fillers got approval today, letters came from CSC. All of them got "local office transfer" status prior just like majority of us. It's proves that cases has never been transferred, and it's clearly a glitch. Yay!!!! Maybe it's time to unsubscribe from this thread and just sit tight. I'd still go to my infopass though since it's already scheduled, but that's about it! Woohoo 

6 hours ago, Damara said:

Every situation is different. I suppose it depends on what you mean by the couple 'stays together'. If they physically separate and have different addresses and divided up joint bills and responsibilities and are only legally married on paper- then yes, that would make an issue if not disclosed during ROC. USCIS will see the date of separation on the final decree at naturalization and do the math themselves to figure out they were separated during the ROC process and they were unaware when they approved it.  If the couple remains married on paper and still live together and share assets and debts but are just unhappy then thats not an issue. 

Very interesting input, thank you! Something definitely to consider in a states that require "cool off" period! In other hand some states you can put a date of separation a day before filing for divorce and it's all good! A lot of light been spreaded at this thread and I hope it will make one's decision easier! 

On 3/8/2018 at 8:10 AM, macbrz said:

Hi all, 

Never posted on this site before, but I am a longtime watcher of this thread. NOA Oct 3rd, CSC filer. I am a divorce Waiver Filer. I got an RFE notification last night. This came just days after receiving the transfer notification that everyone thinks is a glitch. Just wanted to provide a glimmer of hope for the OCT -2016 fliers out there.   

Congratulations!!!! Means your case is moving, that's awesome!!! 

Cab you please post here when you recive an actual letter for RFE where it's coming from - CSC or local office? Much appreciated 

44 minutes ago, teamsomour said:

 

Still no approval for me

But thanks to this forum I was made aware of the OTHER uscis website (https://myaccount.uscis.dhs.gov/) and checked my status there and saw more information than usual. Instead of the "Your case was received at a local office" message that many people have gotten, I saw the below.  

 

Anyone else have a similar case history?  What does it mean that my birthdate and name were corrected? 

 

 

And lastly, thanks everyone for taking the time to update us all about your findings and your case statuses! This forum has really helped me in many ways - from spreading information and just general support - as we all go through this excruciatingly slow process.

 

Wow, this gets even crazier. 

I haven't saw a status with a birthday was corrected yet, but I did saw a few people reporting a "name was corrected" which is a total nonsense as nobody ever changed this information. (Just like nobody waived a fee, this is info for a poster above me) 

another proof their online system is out of control and as I was adviced a year ago by IO when figuring out waiver glitch, "do not pay attention to tracker, it's often wrong, pay attention to your mailbox" - I guess I'll just follow the advice. 

Lets see what they say in my coming up infopass about location of my file. Hope that would be more specific info rather than glitch tracker system. 

2 hours ago, NikLR said:

I never said it would be denied because of that in any post.  There is a red flag and you have to acknowledge it existing.   Beyond that I dont really care about the N-400, mostly it's the suspicious nature of staying married for a green card for ROC that I am pointing out for the OP since that is their concern.  As someone who has no intent on naturalizing I cannot comment very much on the N-400.   That discussion is in an entirely different forum as well. 

 

If you want you can start your own topic for your case vs thread hijacking? 

Hhmmm excuse me? My questions were totally in topic of this thread, but thank you for your input - Good to know  there is no real issue if divorce happens shortly after ROC, except maybe extra questions during n400.  As long as that "red flag" has 0 effect or risk for your approved and existing residency and citizenship, it's a personal choice to weight it out and act accordingly. My parents were married 3 years after separation, things happens. Have a nice day.

38 minutes ago, Damara said:

First of all you can qualify for a joint roc even if divorced. (read the memo). The issue is not the legal status of the marriage but rather the validity of the bonafides of the marriage (for however long it lasted). Like I said before when you submit a joint ROC you send a bunch of evidence. This usually includes proof of joint address and joint bills. When you separate you typically no longer share the same residence or bills or assets. This is what needs to be disclosed to USCIS so they have all the current info on the evidence you submitted. You dont want to get approved with them thinking the evidence they have is current and hasnt changed since submission. 

 

So again its not so much about the actual divorce date but about the joint evidence being accurate that they considered when approving you.  Being separated (but not yet divorced) changes the evidence.

I understand that, but my question is still there though :in scenario I posted above where people  staying in bad marriage and NOT divorcing prior 751, getting approved without RFE and interview, I can't find any examples how that would hurt in a future.  Correct me if I'm wrong please. 

7 hours ago, NikLR said:

I was pointing out how it can look to an outsider, especially one whose job it is to be suspicious to the OP.  You can agree or disagree all you want to.  I do not agree with taking divorce lightly at all.  However once you separate, I've only known ONE couple my entire life that have gotten back together after a separation. 

Right but being suspicious is not the same as having a real issue down the road because in this particular situation  roc happen to be approved a while ago based on solid evidences and it's def not a good enough reason to deny n400 simply because divorce happened shortly after roc. 

I was wonder if you have more insight than I can see in this or maybe you know cases where it's indeed caused the problem, that would be good to know for sure. 

34 minutes ago, Urspecial said:

So its official, the transfers are a fact, and almost a fact also that interview are happening, transfers are updated on uscis system when you check your status on the phone, plus lots of people recieving interview notices, i guess dourdodo was the smart one here who was trying to inform us 

Yep, they also say on the phone and online that my fees were waived (never happened)- that's a fact too? 

Btw, welcome back 😂

1 hour ago, NikLR said:

Also honestly think about this... If you're staying married, just to get the 10 year card, but are separated... How does this look?  Objectively it looks like you married for immigration purposes. This is where the problem lies moving forward.  Divorce right after you get the 10 year card, from an outside viewpoint, that's also suspicious. 

It looks totally fine to me. Decision to get divorce is a very serious step for majority of legit couples and not much people are running to file divorce when things go sour in a marriage. It's normal and I don't see anything suspicious about not cutting all the ties after separation and take time to be on your own to figure out if that's marriage could be repaired or not. 

I still don't see ANY legal problem or problem whatever except extra questions on your interview for n 400 if your divorce happens to be soon after roc. 

Would it raise extra questions about marriage? Possibly. Can you handle it? Surely. 

I wont believe that you can get denied for n400 solely because your divorce happened shortly after roc. Do you? Have you heard of denials like that? 

Even less I believe that such divorce would trigger placing you in a danger of revocation of residency and investigations. Investigate what? What a marriage didn't worked out and simply that fact overcomes all evidences you sent for approval? 

So replying on your question, yes a divorce shortly after roc ( and my shortly it's still MONTHS ahead) might raise a questions at n400. But would it lead to denial or revocation? No way. 

7 minutes ago, emcia_81 said:

I called yesterday and the Tier 2 lady said no one in her office knows what is going on.  Everyone is only guessing.  I keep in touch with many people from VJ since my K1 process and all of our files magically made it to local offices.  I don't believe that they will interview all of us.  There must be thousands applicants who received the message and we know that USCIS is backlogged with all sort of cases.  It will take them years to interview all of us. Everything will be OK. 

Exactly. 500 cases with no exemptions around my filing date is showing same status with local office. So we talking thousands, maybe hundred thousands. 

Glitch theory is still the strongest  

2 hours ago, Damara said:

 it is true USCIS does not have a 'status' for separated or pending divorce, and no where does it state you must notify them. However with that said there have been people who have NOT notified them of the change in circumstances and have had serious problems when attempting to naturalize later on due to USCIS not having all the info when they were approved. These cases are documented online. I believe Charmander has a link to a VJ member this happened to. 

Hi Damara! This makes me a bit confused. I saw threads myself here on VJ where applicant indeed had a problem during n400 because they fail to inform USICS that they divorce before i751 is approved . It totally makes sence as they not quality for joint roc at this point. 

But, I never seen a problem with m400 in a situation (and I did extensive research in a past), where a couple remain married and gets joint  roc approval, even through they are  technically separated.

i totally don't follow how USICS knows about the marriage issues that's happening  while both are still married and how exactly that may trigger a problem at n 400? For example A is approved without RFE or interview and going to n400 interview under 5 year rule being already divorced my that time, IO asks A when divorce took a place and A tell a date past roc approval, IO asking for a reasons of divorce and A replies about relationships not working out past year, yet they tried to make it work but it's just didn't happen. 

What possible trouble that may cause with N 400 considering they NOT divorcing before 751 approval?? 

Please share your point of view on this situation 

2 minutes ago, Derwood said:

Another update, this time on egov.uscis.gov:

 

Case Was Transferred And A New Office Has Jurisdiction

On March 8, 2018, we transferred your Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence, Receipt Number WACXXXXX to another USCIS office. That office now has jurisdiction over your case. We sent you a notice that explains why we moved your case. Please follow the instructions in the notice. If you do not receive your notice by April 7, 2018, please go to www.uscis.gov/e-request to request a copy of the notice. If you move, go to www.uscis.gov/addresschange to give us your new mailing address.

 

We received your Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence, and we are working on your case. You will be notified by mail when a decision is made, or if the office needs something from you.

 

We will assign your case to an officer.   We will review your case and mail you our decision. If we need more information, we will notify you.  

😳 it's like 5th update already? So weird! But this status honestly looks more legit the way it's written : they transferring case to another cervice center rather than mass transfer to backed up local office. 

Btw, when I changed my adress, I got a letter from ... Texas cervice center ! And my case is in Cali and my state is far from Texas. 

2 hours ago, Dourdodo said:

Scazy, the funniest thing about you is that you actually think you're smart, and that is funny. I would normally bully idiots like u but then again its never a good idea to debate uneducated garbage. You finished high school? What do u do 4a living? Entertain us coz that will confirm why people like u shouldnt be allowed to register on here let alone talk to others. I hate to do this but look at ur first message when u joined the conversation last night and look in the mirror and ask ur self, can that possibly be coming from a person who is respetful of others,educated,polite or at last just knows how  not to be an embarrassment. So many people replied to my guess, but all were normal people having a conversation, except u. even e.barny didnt stink as u did

Another day another lol with you mister. If you got offended by me explaining you on examples why your theory doesent make sence in a normal dialog way, than it's awesome, cause people who gets offended should be offended. You have a major growing up to do, I bet  your USC spouse already told you so. Breathe in, breathe out. 

9 hours ago, Dourdodo said:

Scazy you are right i do need a rest,but you're not letting me. thats why i cant state the evidence now and the 2nd reason is you cant possibly understand it. But i would give u my GC if they allowed me to. You are earnest

Im actually spent a decent time on VJ and USICS calls to understand it better than you are if you promoting totally not logical conclusions in here. And have already went through mass glitch at past so noting new. If you up and reading this, go back to bed and rest more unless you have something better to say, lol 

9 hours ago, shell20 said:

Actually depends which Tier 2 officer you get, one will say glitch the other will confirm transfer. USCIS love to be consistent about being inconsistent.

If you give them your fitst number which is a valid number for tracking roc ( unlike the first one) - they going to tell you same thing you see on your screen ( in my case it's good old glitch with fees waived and it's not true) 

if you give the second one, they going to read on a screen exactly the same message about transfer. 

If you insist to check their systems deeper and they place you on hold for doing so, majority gets the answer like hmmm it's shows your case is still at CSC, and first number must be s glitch. 

Depends how you ask them. 

Im going to infopass to local office, so not too long to stay in a dark, because they def would be able to tell if they have my case or no. Plus service request to CSC pending. But I have a pretty Good idea what they come back with. 

1 minute ago, Dourdodo said:

And the transfer is a complete fact and anyone who still thinks other wise has poor IQ. I cant state all the evidence but a third grader should know by now

Lmao. Call Tier 2 tell that to IO who's gonna inform you about the glitch 👍🏽😂

😂😂😂I can't. @Dourdodo, you need a rest! Lol

1 hour ago, Dourdodo said:

, secondly dont forget that it shows case transfer to local office and that is almost a fact right now, 

Huh?! A fact? Lol who stated "the fact"- your layer? Hilarious!! 

Fitsr of all, there is NO evidence at all that cases indeed on local office. 

But there is a thick and fat evidence that mass glitches happens at USICS and it's not rare. Like fees were waived status, thousands have it and guess what - life goes on after the glitch. So I not sure which "fact" you referring to  

oh, and yes, Tier 2 says it's a glitch as well  

22 minutes ago, corvusheart said:

I'm not worried about the interview it's easy to see we are legit I'm just worried about him failing the citizenship civics test and how that will effect a pending ROC?

Have you seen a test? It's super hard to fail honestly.

if he fails test then citizenship might be simply denied, no effect on Roc whatsoever. But again, failing n400 test is close to impossible if person have a basic skills for preparing for a high Schcool test