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4 hours ago, nightingalejules said:

Well, it's not a decision, or anything, but finally an update!

 

As of today, my file was received at my local office! So either they're going to link it up with my N-400 or just give me an interview (I'd prefer the latter, since we want to buy a house this summer and I'll need an official document to show the bank, apparently!)

 

Incidentally, I only found out about this because I accidentally filled in my I-751 number in the case status page (instead of that weird CRI-89 number that they assigned us way back on our biometrics letter.) The update showed up under my I-751.  The CRI-89 still shows "My Case has been received" from 2016. 

 

So if you haven't tried that already, try it now!

 

 

Its not because of N 400 as i just got the same case status about my case recieved at my local office and i did not filed n400. Seems like TONS of ppl have their cases transferred to local office, there is a separate thread on it. Not sure what that means, system glitch? Everyone is now going to interview ( how long that would take ugh) or just a mass case transfer....

1 minute ago, Cocoza said:

The only thing that can say for sure is if we have a bunch of people who have already been approved  probably from as far back as September 2017 onward volunteer to check their status as well. That would say a lot 

 

Good idea. Im going to ask this question 

3 hours ago, JeanneSs said:

Lol! I have no idea what’s happening and it all seems to be the same period so maybe it might be a good news

Hi! Congratulations! )) Just to make sure, you also got that status about your case being tranfered to local office and then soon enough after this you got approved? 

December 2016 filler here. 

Got the same update "On February 26, 2018, we received your Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence...

and the second WAC number shows same old glitch with FEES WERE WAIVED. 

Im not sure what to think. My local office backlogged WORSE than CSC. If that is for interview scheduling, then i might as well wait another year ot two. 

QUESTIONS:

~ Have anyone called tier 2 officer to find out the meaning of this?

~ Could it be a system glitch just like that FEES WERE WAIVED status a tons of people have here?

~ Does it necessarily means scheduling for the interview ( even though as we see, it looks like a mass tranfer, not on individual basis) 

~ Have anyone else except one person in this thread got approved after the case transfer?

Wow, seriously after posts like this i believe more and more that VJ has much more valid information for no fee rather than a lawyer that charges 3000 and up.p

Please update how you decided to proceed 

When I flew back in with a stamp, CBP officer perfectly recognized it and in 2 minutes I was out. Good luck! 

11 hours ago, jahgallou said:

Thank you everyone for sharing your stories and giving helpful advice.

At this point, I am unsure of what my next step is, however. I don't necessarily have the money to contact a lawyer and sort everything out. My situation right now is that I am waiting on my wife to fill out divorce papers so that we can file them together. I am currently living at my mom's house and have not notified USCIS only because I was not sure it was appropriate to do so until the divorce papers were submitted. I have also yet to submit a waiver form for the application to remove conditions because I have no idea how to go about doing that. Would anybody be able to help guide me into what my next course of action to be? I would appreciate any and all help! This situation is extremely uncomfortable from an immigration standpoint because I want to do things the right way and I am unsure of what to do.

In addition, my application was received on August 10th at CSC. Last time I checked the processing times were over one year. Is that still the case? And how might that affect this process?

 

Thank you,

 

Jonathan

August 2016 or 17? If 17, you have all time in your hands. 

Damara posted everything you need to do in this thread including the sample of the letter - request to switch to waiver 

in short, you need to send letter asking to amend your joint petition to divorce waiver, attach the divorce decree ( if you have it) and story of your marriage and why it ended. How long divorce takes in your state? 

On February 3, 2018 at 4:10 AM, AH&JH said:

Updated with more info, please delete previous post if possible, I couldn't edit

 

HI,

 

Im also in this awful situation (as if divorcing wasn't already traumatizing we also have to deal with the fear of immigration)

 

My story:

1. We filed jointly November 2016 (CSA), the marriage fell apart and I moved out of the house August 2017. 

2. I informed USCIS about the change of address through their website

3. I consulted a lawyer and also tried to find information in the forum. Based on my findings IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTIFY USCIS OF YOUR SITUATION (because if you fail to do so and they approve your joint application, you can have problems once you try to apply for citizenship as they can deny it stating that you didn't inform you were divorced/divorcing so your joint app wasn't valid)   

4. I made an Infopass appointment October 2017 and tried to have the officer add to my case a letter informing that my marriage was falling apart and my husband filed for divorce in September 2017 and we had a court hearing scheduled November 2017, the officer said he could not receive the letter and advised to mail it instead.

5. I mailed the letter with a tracking number and kept the notification that it was delivered to USCIS (Same office that has my case). I haven't heard back from USCIS and have not had any update in my case on the website, no RFE either.

6. Jan 2018 I made another info pass appointment to have my passport stamped as my extension letter was close to expire. I asked the officer if he have any information about my case, he said the only information he had was that this process is now taking 1 to 2 years, more close to 2 years.

 

*  My lawyer told me USCIS would probably act in one of the following ways

a. Review my joint application and found enough evidence that the marriage was entered in good faith and it simply didn't work out and approve my 10 year greencard

 

b. Review my joint application and send an RFE requesting divorce decree ---> If I have divorce decree I will send it ---> they will make a decision

b.1 If I don't have divorce decree, Send documents of pending divorce plus the letter where I informed USCIS of my divorce,  ---> I understand they will give me 2-3 months to get the divorce decree

 

c. Review my joint application and request an interview ---> If I have divorce decree: I will go to the interview with the decree and request to switch to a waiver ---> they will approve or switch to divorce waiver

c.1 If I don't have divorce decree I will go with all the divorce documents and the letter that I sent to USCIS informing about my pending divorce and request to switch to divorce waiver

 

What I also understand is that if USCIS request for divorce decree and you don't have it, they will give you a period of time (don't remember if 2 or 3 months) to get it.

If in that period of time the divorce is not finalize (so you don;t have the divorce decree) they will reject your application BUT you will go to court and the judge will give you more time to get the divorce finalized and get the decree.

 

A divorce in California takes a minimum of 6 months so in my case if everything is resolved on time between my ex and I that would put me on getting the decree on March 2018

 

Now Im just hoping that my divorce get finalize before USCIS gets to my case.

 

I hope this information is useful fro other people in the same situation. If for some reason you know for certain that I have something wrong in here, PLEASE ADVISE, I feel everyone has similar but different information and it would be really helpful if people that has already gone through this process chimes in.

 

Thank you in advance!!!

Hi! I think your information is complete, I was looking for it as well and came up with the same findings. 

I spoke to 2 VJ members who reported approval with a similar circumstances (amending joint petition to waiver) and seems like it's normal not to get any reply from USICS when you sending them a request to switch to waiver, and then they just adjudicate it when your time comes. Both of them sent final divorce decree with a request so they simply got approved without RFE. 

Since you November filler I think you have a good chance to mail divorce decree with RFE (87 days to reply) or even obtain it before it's even your turn since CSC currently just started Sempember 2016. 

Have you sent them a statement explaining how your relationships was and why it's ended? Anything else? 

Please post the update here how your situation resolving 

6 hours ago, j4rom said:

from uscis website updated feb 1, 2018:

 

Field Office Processing Dates for California Service Center as of November 30, 2017:

I-751 Petition to Remove the Conditions on Residence Removal of lawful permanent resident conditions (spouses of U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents processing cases as of date September 7, 2016

 

Confused by "as of November 30th" because based on VJ timelines they started September just about now ( beggining of February, pretty much when update was posted). 

Have you tried to use search? It's been multiple threads on this just recently. 

9 hours ago, 4444510 said:

That's why I do not travel before getting my 10 years GC. 99% you will go through with no issue but there's always 1% they will turn you down  and make it a nightmare. 

Based on what reason they would "turn you down" if you admissible? I've been through countless secondaries and it's just a bit of the wait. Totally worth it compare to putting your life on pause for 1,5 years and not to be able to see your family just because of fear waiting at the secondary. You TRavelling with a valid documents, so unless you commited crimes that would make you inadmissible, you fine. Don't spread a panic please it's totally unnecessary. Life goes on! 

53 minutes ago, dburnt said:

It seems to depend on the office and/or agent.  I went into Orlando as well, and they kept both.  I have seen in the messages that it has been done both ways.  I guess I will find out when I go to Canada next month as to whether it causes any issue.

It will NOT cause an issue. Print a page from CBP manual where it clearly says i551 stamp is valid proof of residency  ( green card is also 551 form) 

you guys good regardless 

1 hour ago, Illiria said:

 

How long removal of conditions takes depends on the office you are applying to but it’s around six months to a year and a bit. 

6 months! Wishful thinking! It's 2018, no such thing as 6 months for ROC anymore. 

9 minutes ago, sumaya213 said:

What is the stamp called?

I 551

9 hours ago, mindthegap said:

 

 

Would help even more if you didn't post total BS masquerading as fact.

This made me laugh) honestly I haven't bumped into a such unrealistic post until this. 

8 hours ago, xillini said:

@mindthegap Thanks for such an exciting response.

 

I wasnt able to find the policy manual, but find nolo.com's advice for I-751 process in case it is at-fault divorce. 

It is also common sense that falling in love with someone other than spouse during marriage is considered cheating, or adultery in legal term, which may not be punishable by U.S. common laws, but may be severely impacted on immigration status especially an alien obtains LPR through marriage. 

 

My attorney also advised that even adultery is a ground to deny N-400 during naturalization due to moral turpitude even if one of clients obtained LPR through employment-based and therefore should be avoiding it. 

 

I am very impressed to see your timeline and I hope you enjoy the process then and keep it posted! 

I think you wasn't able to find a policy manual on the subject because there is none? I never heard. Also I haven't heard about immigration laws on cheating and it's totally strange for me to assume that  it could be treated as a moral turpitude preventing you from getting approved for citizenship solely based on it.   For 751 you  have to prove that you ENTERED marriage in a good faith - USICS gives a pretty good idea how to do so by submitting evidences that would speak for itself. As mindthegap said, fast divorce after obtaining a green card and absence of evidence would definitely hurt the applicant with or without cheating. But if you established as a married couple but oh well love has changed for any of you, you or your spouse cheated, you name it - it is NOT a basis for denial. 

Your lawyer must be a person of high morals, but don't mix it with this process, unless you CIMT. 

August CSC fillers reporting 18 months. I kinda prepared for that wait time, don't even expect any movements in a next few months 

11 hours ago, nightingalejules said:

It shouldn't affect you. You're right, you can't be held responsible for his actions anymore!   Just make sure you're doing all the things you're supposed to do and USCIS should be fine.

Thank you! 

6 minutes ago, nightingalejules said:

Probably they've forwarded it to make sure they update you at CSC as well! Maybe this was the "missing" step for people who updated their address but still got their mail sent to the wrong address! 

That's an interesting point! Thank you for clearing the things up! I was already looking for info pass apps as I have to admit the long wait and uncertainty started to hit me with anxiety. 

11 hours ago, milimelo said:

Then no, your ex husband doesn’t need to do I-865 if he hasn’t moved. He is still under I-864 obligation until you naturalize, obtain 40 credits for work, leave country permanently or die. 

I can't be in control of nobody's actions but my own though. How this might affect me? 

This thread has a lot of insights. I think it's better to use search when looking information on a common issues as it might have more info: 

1 hour ago, nightingalejules said:

You filed your address change online, so the notice that they received it could come from anywhere. In your case it came from TSC. No big deal. Even the odd wording. Basically, they got your address change. Yay!

But the letter saying that "After careful review of your request, it has been determined that your issues will be best addressed by the USICS office having a jurisdiction over your case. Therefore, we have taken this liberty of forwarding your service request to the California Cervice Center. " So it did not sounded like a confirmation letter to me ( unlike the one I got at my email). Wasn't sure if that is normal as I never heard of something like this even afte being on VJ for a while. 

1 hour ago, milimelo said:

Hopefully you had your spouse as USC petitioner file I-865 as well for change of address. 

Actually not, we divorced. I bet even if I'll ask ex  spouse million times to do so, it won't happen. You think that may lead for complications with recieving notices to new address? 

27 minutes ago, Roy&Chanel said:

I believe its related to change of address system, cos I-865 US spouse, I mailed the form for change of address to Texas. So I guess their system is there, everything has to be updated there.

Hmm who knows! I just thought it's weird that it was coming from Texas, I was expecting a letter from California cervice center confirming that my address has been changed successfully, not that Texas forwarding my "issues" to CSC. Oh well! 

Hello everyone. Id like to hear your opinion on the letter i just recieved from USICS. Im a November ROC filler at California Service center and 

2 weeks ago i filed AR-11 Change of Address form, filled it out correctly - put in my information, A number, working case number and old and new address. It gave me an option to print out filled out AR 11 and mail it to: USCIS Attn: Change of address, 1344 Pleasants Drive, Harrisonburg, VA 22801. 

I got confused by VA address since i heard i need to mail it to the cervice center where your petition at ( CA) , but there was a note on the web site that i DO NOT need to mail an actual form if i completed online form. So i did not mailed anything. 

Soon after i recieved Email from USICS, at the top it says CALIFORNIA CERVICE CENTER and their address, it was a  confirmation of the address change in their data system.

I thought its all good and done until yesterday i got a regular mail letter from ....Texas Cervice Center ( Huh? I have never even been in Texas, and my service cenrer is California). Here is what it says in it: 

On ****** you contacted us about your case. Some of the key information given to us at that time was the following:

Caller indicated they are: Applicant or Petitioner 

Case type: I751

Filling date: Information is not available 

Reciept #: WAC***********

Referral ID: CA**********

A number: ********* 

Type of Service Requested: Change of Address 

The status of this service request is: 

After careful review of your request, it has been determined that your issues will be best addressed by the USICS office having a jurisdiction over your case. Therefore, we have taken this liberty of forwarding your service request to the California Cervice Center. If you require additional assistance, we invite you to visit our web site or call 800 number 

My questioins: 

1) What  Texas cervice center ( Im NOT from Texas) has to do with my AR 11 online address change form? How did it even ended up there? 

2) I still have a copy of AR11 printed, should i sign it and mail to the address in VA (not CA cervice center) which is provided on it? 

3) Or should i mail it to California Cervice center? 

4) What would be best way to make sure my address has been changed correctly? 

5) Could that letter from Texas be possible related to any other issues but the address change? 

Please advise me guys, trying to bring back my good mood for the weekend. 

6 hours ago, 4444510 said:

We're planning on moving and I guess we have to file change of address. However, I've read a lot of stories when USCIS keeps mailing their notices and even green cards to the old address by mistake or just because they are slow on interaction even within the organization so that the new address is not put in effect yet. Since time of adjudication is very close for us and we are happening to move at the same time, we are also going to request a forwarding service to our new address just in case. Does anyone know by chance if USPS forwards USCIS letters. I read contradictory information. Do they send with certified mail? All letters or only green cards?

NObody would be able to tell you for sure. For example, at my post office I've been told immigration mail never gets forwarded even if you pay for premium forwarding. I did read stories with both outcomes: when it's gets forwarded and when it is sent back to USICS. You'll never know. But I would not belong on a chance in that matter. Post office do have a regulation prohibiting them to forward government mail, yet there is a human factor too such as not paying attention. Not all mail comes as first class cerfitied. Notices  are usually comes in plain white envelopes as I've seen here people posted a pictures of it. Just do an address change, ring them in a few weeks after to double check address on file, and make usps forwarding anyways for all your  mail

8 hours ago, nightingalejules said:

One form for each person. You don’t need to send another version of AR-11. Your spouse has to send in an entirely different form because they are your sponsor.

 

It makes sense to USCIS. They need to track the addresses of 2 different people, so they need 2 different forms.

The spouse has to file even if that is divorce waiver? I have no control over it, would that affect my case? 

3 hours ago, nightingalejules said:

You’ll file both.

The immigrant files AR-11 (online or by mail) within 10 days after moving.

The spouse (sponsor) files I-865 (by mail only) within 30 days after moving. 

 

Those are are the legal requirements. 

Hi, sorry why both? I just did online address change and it says specifically that after doing such step, you DO NOT need to send a paper version to USICS. 

Got email confirmation already 

So I need to mail it to them regardless? 

2 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

 (basically 'petition was not filed properly').

 

Maybe that is refered to "switching" petitions from joint to waiver even though technically you can do this? 

10 hours ago, mindthegap said:

Simple enough.

Lasted one hour, asked to confirm I wanted to switch to a waiver, and that i tick the waiver box and then initial it, and then write on a plain piece of paper something about the circumstances of the marriage ending and sign and date it. 

Asked for a copy of the divorce decree which I handed over.

 

She had a list of specific questions - presumably from the officer who had reviewed the petition originally  - which she asked. One of these seemed quite innocent at the time, but was in fact (as I found out at a later date) directly related to the false allegations made, that I was given no opportunity to refute or answer (as I should be, so breached their policy).

The interviewer also straight up lied to me on a couple of occasions. 

 

Some of the documents with the answers to these questions were in the file, some were not. 

I gave some more evidence - she only wanted a fraction of what I had with me, mainly concentrating on proof of travel and financial co-mingling as late as possible in the marriage.

She looked through and took a handful of photos from the multiple albums I had with me. 

 

 

 

I guess I will now have another one of these to look forward to next year, along with my N-400 interview - hopefully done as a combined interview. 

This is truly an Expirience! Sorry to hear you going through this. How do you know about allegations and it's nature if they haven't questioned you specifically about it? So crazy! ! ! From what a read here on VJ  USICS only really take into consideration allegations supported by proofs and evidences, since the simple statements with no proof a lot of spiteful spouses can be spreading around in hope to complicate your situation, but it's not enough to deny your petition without proof.. that is not how it works? Or it wasn't even a spouse?