Turned down for tourist visa

[Semih_El 0]

Today was Semih's interview and he was denied for the B2 Visa. It was very short one she denied him on being and intending immigrant. So of course I had to research what this meant and the thing that I don't understand is how can she say he is an intending immigrant when he was only requesting 2 weeks in the US for engagement purposes only. When I looked up what intending immigrant meant it stated that it is a person who is planing to stay in the US permently and that we would need an affidavid of support. In which we purposely didn't submit b/c we didn't want to give the wrong impression. Yes, eventually he is planning to stay here but we were applying for a tourist visa for 2 weeks, since I can't get to Turkey to make our engagement official. She also stated that it is against US law to give him the visa b/c he has intent to stay. He then tried to explain that "he just misses me" and she proceeded to tell him that she has a finance in Bolgaria and that he should just accept it and wait until his K1 visa is approved. I personally think her statement was unescessary.

We knew it was a slim chance for approval, but is it really against the law to approve this B2 visa? We were honest and did everything by the book and just feel like she "knocked the wind out of our sail"

Also we were told that his passport should've been stamped denied is this true?

Semih wants to apply again, b/c we heard that sometimes it depends on the person interviewing. What do you think?

[Ta Ta 1]

I would not want to waste another application fee and time for a second try. It is practically zero chance to get a B2 from most countries

especially when a fiance is involved.

The burden of proof is on the applicant and the proof you give them won't be accepted.

[Minister 0]

I wouldn't waste the money. I also had this situation with my fiancee. We didn't want her to immigrate at that time. We honestly just wanted to spend a little more time together. But the consulate people are just doing their job.

Don't worry about your K1 interview. I have spoken to two lawyers about it and both agree that it will have no bearing on the K1.

Good luck!

[RosemarieL 0]

Is there any chance you could meet up in a neighbouring country such as Canada?

[MM_MS 0]

When I asked about this, I was told that Canada (like the U.S.) won't issue a tourist visa to a Turkish citizen 99.9% of the time. Maybe I was misinformed?

Thanks,

MM

Is there any chance you could meet up in a neighbouring country such as Canada?

[MM_MS 0]

I'm really sorry Semih didn't get the visa! You must be really disappointed. The U.S. views the visa as a privilege. It's an invitation extended by the U.S., not by a citizen.

All the best -

MM

Today was Semih's interview and he was denied for the B2 Visa. It was very short one she denied him on being and intending immigrant. So of course I had to research what this meant and the thing that I don't understand is how can she say he is an intending immigrant when he was only requesting 2 weeks in the US for engagement purposes only. When I looked up what intending immigrant meant it stated that it is a person who is planing to stay in the US permently and that we would need an affidavid of support. In which we purposely didn't submit b/c we didn't want to give the wrong impression. Yes, eventually he is planning to stay here but we were applying for a tourist visa for 2 weeks, since I can't get to Turkey to make our engagement official. She also stated that it is against US law to give him the visa b/c he has intent to stay. He then tried to explain that "he just misses me" and she proceeded to tell him that she has a finance in Bolgaria and that he should just accept it and wait until his K1 visa is approved. I personally think her statement was unescessary.

We knew it was a slim chance for approval, but is it really against the law to approve this B2 visa? We were honest and did everything by the book and just feel like she "knocked the wind out of our sail"

Also we were told that his passport should've been stamped denied is this true?

Semih wants to apply again, b/c we heard that sometimes it depends on the person interviewing. What do you think?

[pushbrk 13,454]

Today was Semih's interview and he was denied for the B2 Visa. It was very short one she denied him on being and intending immigrant. So of course I had to research what this meant and the thing that I don't understand is how can she say he is an intending immigrant when he was only requesting 2 weeks in the US for engagement purposes only. When I looked up what intending immigrant meant it stated that it is a person who is planing to stay in the US permently and that we would need an affidavid of support. In which we purposely didn't submit b/c we didn't want to give the wrong impression. Yes, eventually he is planning to stay here but we were applying for a tourist visa for 2 weeks, since I can't get to Turkey to make our engagement official. She also stated that it is against US law to give him the visa b/c he has intent to stay. He then tried to explain that "he just misses me" and she proceeded to tell him that she has a finance in Bolgaria and that he should just accept it and wait until his K1 visa is approved. I personally think her statement was unescessary.

We knew it was a slim chance for approval, but is it really against the law to approve this B2 visa? We were honest and did everything by the book and just feel like she "knocked the wind out of our sail"

Also we were told that his passport should've been stamped denied is this true?

Semih wants to apply again, b/c we heard that sometimes it depends on the person interviewing. What do you think?

Applying again would be folly. From most countries, there's really no way for an intending immigrant to visit the US during the process. Even though the intent is later, Semih intends to immigrate.

I would simply resign yourself to the notion, you'll be traveling to visit him. A third country is still an option but you'll still be traveling. Join the club and stock up on your favorite snack food.

[~*Maria*~ 1]

Don't waste your money. I too tried to get a tourist visa for an extended holiday to visit the U.S. to help my hubby fill out the paperwork for the K-3 because he couldn't figure it out for himself and spend time with him in the process. I got denied too. In the end i filled out the paperwork myself, then mailed it off to him all he had to do was sign it and mail to USCIS.

My tourist visa denial had no bearing on my K-3 interview.

[*julez* 124]

I have only heard of one person who was approved for a B2. This was through London and they were going the CR1/IR1 route.

[miamiwife 0]

My husband also tried to get a B2 visa from Turkey last week and was denied. I know how you feel! I cried for days and feel so helpless! We even provided evidence for attending my brother's wedding, taking a class, letters of support and invitation, a letter from his employer vouching his return. Nothing. Denied. This is so frustrating. I mean--these are the people we are married to and who else has more right to be in a country to visit?

[pushbrk 13,454]

My husband also tried to get a B2 visa from Turkey last week and was denied. I know how you feel! I cried for days and feel so helpless! We even provided evidence for attending my brother's wedding, taking a class, letters of support and invitation, a letter from his employer vouching his return. Nothing. Denied. This is so frustrating. I mean--these are the people we are married to and who else has more right to be in a country to visit?

I can sympathize with you but in case your question was more than rhetorical, the answer is our foreign spouses are afforded no "rights" by the US government. A visa is a privilege. The US Citizen has the right to petition for their spouse to "apply" for the immigration or status adjustment. There is no right to a visa, green card or citizenship. They are all granted privileges.

[payxibka 10,048]

I have only heard of one person who was approved for a B2. This was through London and they were going the CR1/IR1 route.

John & Sonya received a tourist visa from Kiev. They were also CR(IR)1

[athena_ny 1]

My husband also tried to get a B2 visa from Turkey last week and was denied. I know how you feel! I cried for days and feel so helpless! We even provided evidence for attending my brother's wedding, taking a class, letters of support and invitation, a letter from his employer vouching his return. Nothing. Denied. This is so frustrating. I mean--these are the people we are married to and who else has more right to be in a country to visit?

Well, that's kind of why they're denied - they have more reason to be here and ... stay.

[Caladan 19]

Today was Semih's interview and he was denied for the B2 Visa. It was very short one she denied him on being and intending immigrant. So of course I had to research what this meant and the thing that I don't understand is how can she say he is an intending immigrant when he was only requesting 2 weeks in the US for engagement purposes only. When I looked up what intending immigrant meant it stated that it is a person who is planing to stay in the US permently and that we would need an affidavid of support. In which we purposely didn't submit b/c we didn't want to give the wrong impression. Yes, eventually he is planning to stay here but we were applying for a tourist visa for 2 weeks, since I can't get to Turkey to make our engagement official. She also stated that it is against US law to give him the visa b/c he has intent to stay. He then tried to explain that "he just misses me" and she proceeded to tell him that she has a finance in Bolgaria and that he should just accept it and wait until his K1 visa is approved. I personally think her statement was unescessary.

We knew it was a slim chance for approval, but is it really against the law to approve this B2 visa? We were honest and did everything by the book and just feel like she "knocked the wind out of our sail"

Also we were told that his passport should've been stamped denied is this true?

Semih wants to apply again, b/c we heard that sometimes it depends on the person interviewing. What do you think?

Applying again would be folly. From most countries, there's really no way for an intending immigrant to visit the US during the process. Even though the intent is later, Semih intends to immigrate.

I would simply resign yourself to the notion, you'll be traveling to visit him. A third country is still an option but you'll still be traveling. Join the club and stock up on your favorite snack food.

Technically, it's not the immigrant intent at a LATER date that is the problem. Many couples manage to have the beneficiary visit while the K-1 is pending. Intent is tied to the visit, not the person's general life plans. C. visited while his petition was enroute to Vancouver. He had a GENERAL intent to immigrate once he had the K-1, but his intent on the visit was to visit and then leave. It's the latter they care about.

The problem is that having an American fiance creates the presumption that the person intends to use the tourist visa to immigrate.

The consulate has to judge whether it is likely that if they grant the person the tourist visa, they will abide by the terms of it, or whether they're essentially giving someone a green card (since the person could adjust status to marry from a tourist visa.) It's not often easy to get a tourist visa from some of these places to begin with, and having a fiance in the US raises the suspicion that the person might not return to their home country.

[payxibka 10,048]

The problem is that having an American fiance creates the presumption that the person intends to use the tourist visa to immigrate.

Actually, everyone is presumed to have an intent to immigrate which needs to be overcome... Having an American fiance(e) makes that presumption even stronger and a just little more difficult to overcome.

Edited September 20, 2007 by fwaguy