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Hi!

 

I applied for a sibling visa (my sister is married to an American and she is now also an American) both my parents now live there too due to chain migration

 

my my application went in in early 2018 and I have no idea how long a. Wait that is

 

ironically I met and fell in love with (in the UK) an American born abroad.

hes never lived in the USA. Been there yes, family still there yes, lived there no. 
 

I need to figure a few things out, is it better to wait for the sibling visa - and who knows how long that would take.

 

or should he go the spousal route? We would have been married for two years by this point (as won’t be doing anything this year!) but would my hubby have to already go across and be living and working in the US for us to explore the spousal visa?

 

long term we do want to move to the US, he’d like to say he’s lived there and I want to be near my family. 
 

im assuming he’d need to move first though and then we would be separated but waiting for the sibling visa while that would take (MUCH?) longer we wouldn’t need to be apart?

 

surely someone has faced this before and can shed some light into either option?

 

thank you!!! 

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46 minutes ago, Jessica A said:

Hi!

 

I applied for a sibling visa (my sister is married to an American and she is now also an American) both my parents now live there too due to chain migration

 

my my application went in in early 2018 and I have no idea how long a. Wait that is

 

ironically I met and fell in love with (in the UK) an American born abroad.

hes never lived in the USA. Been there yes, family still there yes, lived there no. 
 

I need to figure a few things out, is it better to wait for the sibling visa - and who knows how long that would take.

Sibling visas (F4) are taking 20+ years so you have a long wait for that.

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-bulletin/2024/visa-bulletin-for-april-2024.html

46 minutes ago, Jessica A said:

 

or should he go the spousal route? We would have been married for two years by this point (as won’t be doing anything this year!) but would my hubby have to already go across and be living and working in the US for us to explore the spousal visa?

The spousal visa would be much faster.  He will have to show evidence of intent to change his domicile to the US at the time of your interview, and may need to find a joint sponsor for a spousal visa.  Has he been filing US taxes?  Once you have the visa (which would come after showing his intent to establish domicile and provided the proper financial sponsorship), he will have to enter the US first or at the same time.

46 minutes ago, Jessica A said:

 

long term we do want to move to the US, he’d like to say he’s lived there and I want to be near my family. 
 

im assuming he’d need to move first though and then we would be separated but waiting for the sibling visa while that would take (MUCH?) longer we wouldn’t need to be apart?

 

surely someone has faced this before and can shed some light into either option?

 

thank you!!! 

Here is the guide for filing for a spousal visa.  You do not have to do anything about the petition your sister filed as you can have more than one I130 in the system at the same time.

 

 

Good Luck!

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Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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Moved from Progress Reports to Process & Procedures.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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Have you and the US Citizen decided both to marry and to live in the USA?  

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34 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Have you and the US Citizen decided both to marry and to live in the USA?  

He is half American as I mentioned 

 

he has never lived there

 

my entire family is there now and I am on a queue for a sibling visa 

 

I was asking if we went the spousal route would he have to move before me or is there a way of going together 

can a spouse  be applied for from here

 

im not really sure I understand your question- my husband and I decided to marry. That’s how one gets married

 

we would like to live in the US because he is half American and would like to live there and my whole family is there

 

 

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1 hour ago, Jessica A said:

He is half American as I mentioned 

 

he has never lived there

 

my entire family is there now and I am on a queue for a sibling visa 

 

I was asking if we went the spousal route would he have to move before me or is there a way of going together 

can a spouse  be applied for from here

 

im not really sure I understand your question- my husband and I decided to marry. That’s how one gets married

 

we would like to live in the US because he is half American and would like to live there and my whole family is there

 

 

Yes, the I130 can be filed online, and he can stay there until you get the visa, but as I said he will need to show his plans relative to setting up domicile in the U.S. as well as find a U.S. based person to file the I864 as a co-sponsor unless he or you or both will continue with your income after coming to the U.S..  He will also have to show as a USC that he is good with the IRS.

 

Good Luck!

Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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1 hour ago, Dashinka said:

Yes, the I130 can be filed online, and he can stay there until you get the visa, but as I said he will need to show his plans relative to setting up domicile in the U.S. as well as find a U.S. based person to file the I864 as a co-sponsor unless he or you or both will continue with your income after coming to the U.S..  He will also have to show as a USC that he is good with the IRS.

 

Good Luck!

I think my sister could co sponsor since she is now American

 

and we are looking into his company transferring him to work in America

 

i don’t know about the taxes though? He’s never lived there so why would he have filed any of these??? 

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8 minutes ago, Jessica A said:

He’s never lived there so why would he have filed any of these??? 

Because all US citizens and Green card holders must report world-wide income regardless of where they reside or work.

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

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______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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11 minutes ago, Jessica A said:

I think my sister could co sponsor since she is now American

 

and we are looking into his company transferring him to work in America

 

i don’t know about the taxes though? He’s never lived there so why would he have filed any of these??? 

Husband will have to file at least the last 3 years of taxes (for immigration).

BUT, 

He should also file streamlined and that will resolve his compliancy issues with the us govenrment- google streamlined tax filings. He should also research FATCA and FBARS. 

He can do that now while you wait for the I-130 to be approved- as this first step will take around a year and he does not have to move back to the US while the I-130 is pending. 

This question comes up alot- especially from the UK. 

Here is a recent thread asking a similar question:

@Crazy Cat

 and other mods... we should probably choose a good post or compile some posts for the oft asked "I live overseas, do I have to move back to the US before I file the I-130 petition?" 

 

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16 minutes ago, Jessica A said:

I think my sister could co sponsor since she is now American

Your spouse would still be the primary sponsor, and he must meet all the qualifications of sponsorship.  Your sister would be the joint sponsor, who must also meet the requirements of sponsorship.

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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6 hours ago, Crazy Cat said:

Your spouse would still be the primary sponsor, and he must meet all the qualifications of sponsorship.  Your sister would be the joint sponsor, who must also meet the requirements of sponsorship.

Only one of them needs to have the required income.  Best would be a company transfer so husband's income will continue from the same source once in the USA.  That way, no need to have a joint sponsor, and the job transfer takes care of any domicile related issues.

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9 hours ago, Jessica A said:

He is half American as I mentioned 

 

he has never lived there

 

my entire family is there now and I am on a queue for a sibling visa 

 

I was asking if we went the spousal route would he have to move before me or is there a way of going together 

can a spouse  be applied for from here

 

im not really sure I understand your question- my husband and I decided to marry. That’s how one gets married

 

we would like to live in the US because he is half American and would like to live there and my whole family is there

 

 

It was a two part question.  Second part was the intention to live in the USA.  You've answered that now.

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1 hour ago, pushbrk said:

Only one of them needs to have the required income.  Best would be a company transfer so husband's income will continue from the same source once in the USA.  That way, no need to have a joint sponsor, and the job transfer takes care of any domicile related issues.

Yes.  I should have said both must meet the requirements such as having filed taxes and domicile .  Thanks for clarifying. 

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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