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They were concerned about my 2 prior divorces (last 9 years ago after 14 years of marriage) and the fact that she has a 4yo daughter. The counsler wants all the facts surrounding my divorces. They also concerned about why that marriage did not result in any children. Totally intursive and ridiculous.  

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1 hour ago, Commish10 said:

They were concerned about my 2 prior divorces (last 9 years ago after 14 years of marriage) and the fact that she has a 4yo daughter. The counsler wants all the facts surrounding my divorces. They also concerned about why that marriage did not result in any children. Totally intursive and ridiculous.  

Plus coming from a country where infidelity runs rampant (there is a reason for all of those hourly motels), where an enormous % of the population lives with other partners besides the ones they are married too, and where another enormous % of the population is nothing but deadbeat fathers.  Ask the CFO counselor how many times a court has successfully implemented a child support order and the person actually paid anything.  Ask how many times a deadbeat father has been put in prison.  The answer of course is all zero.  Id also ask if having no kids is better than having 8 kids, many with a basketball team of fathers.  

 

Unfortunately, you are going to just have to play the game, give them something to appease their make believe powers, get the certificate and on your way out of the country, have them answer the questions above.  Ive posted some experiences that other friends have experienced as well.  Its a crapshoot if you get a good counselor or not.  Its the end product of a woefully terrible educational system.  One of my friends was asked if he lives in the Philippines, how does he have access to his money in the US.  Pretty much tells you the type of people doing these CFO seminars.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Commish10 said:

They were concerned about my 2 prior divorces (last 9 years ago after 14 years of marriage) and the fact that she has a 4yo daughter. The counsler wants all the facts surrounding my divorces. They also concerned about why that marriage did not result in any children. Totally intursive and ridiculous.  

You can not catch a break. Hang in there. This too will pass.

Not a newbie but lost my old info years ago) I have been through this process before --all the way through naturalization-- This site has always been a great help to me. 

 

 

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Not long ago the CFO was so insignificant that you did it in line, now they are back to playing games, wrong on every level.  This CFO stamp and $1.00 Will get you a cup of coffee at the airport, which by the way they haven't been looking at the stamp lately.

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8 minutes ago, PWB said:

Not long ago the CFO was so insignificant that you did it in line, now they are back to playing games, wrong on every level.  This CFO stamp and $1.00 Will get you a cup of coffee at the airport, which by the way they haven't been looking at the stamp lately.

I can't take a chance she will get help up by immigration at the aiport in Manila. She is already at her wits end about traveling alone. 

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16 hours ago, Commish10 said:

They were concerned about my 2 prior divorces (last 9 years ago after 14 years of marriage) and the fact that she has a 4yo daughter. The counsler wants all the facts surrounding my divorces. They also concerned about why that marriage did not result in any children. Totally intursive and ridiculous.  

Oh yeah.. CFO is very intrusive and there's no barrier on what they think and what they ask to catch someone off guard.

 

They did the same thing to me in 2019. The councilor was asking about my now-husband's divorce and how cheating and separation are always two-way street and there's always more to the story. I give her the disapproving look and told her that cheating is not circumstantial, it is behavioral. People cheat because they do and not because someone is not being a good husband/wife. 

 

I would suggest telling your wife to get her fierce look on, be head strong and be on her game. CFOs are always concerned about Filipinas being meek and too submissive and how that behavior ends up in them being abused overseas by a foreign spouse or being taken advantage of by a different culture because of being passive--they even tell horror stories like these in the seminar. Just let her strong, decisive and smart self come out and address the concerns about the divorce and the kid situation. If CFO sense that she can handle herself in a foreign land, then they would approve the certificate.

New Petition:

Apr 5,  2023: Naturalization

Apr 6, 2023: I-130 for my mother

Apr 6, 2023: NOA1

Apr 9, 2024: Approved

Apr 13, 2024: Sent to NVC

Apr 18, 2024: Received email fr NVC and paid the AOS/IV fee

Apr 23, 2024: CEAC website shows "Paid"

Apr 25, 2024: Uploaded Civil and Financial documents

May 1, 2024: Documents accepted except for marriage certificate (unreadable) and death certificate (wrong file)

May 3, 2024: Ordered marriage certificate and death certificate from PSA online

May 9, 2024: Received email from PSA that marriage cert is blurred/eligible--will need 15 more days for reverification

May 22, 2024: Marriage Cert received from PSA (death cert was delivered 2 weeks earlier)

May 23, 2024: Uploaded new files to the CEAC website

May 29, 2024: Documentary Qualified

 

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I’m just learning all the quirks the Philippines has. Is it possible to simply bypass the CFO by going on a “vacation” with your spouse/fiancé to Thailand and then leaving for USA from there? I realize some Filipinas have had trouble simply leaving the PH by themselves even if it’s only to meet their fiancé in a third country….

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8 minutes ago, bmfj said:

I’m just learning all the quirks the Philippines has. Is it possible to simply bypass the CFO by going on a “vacation” with your spouse/fiancé to Thailand and then leaving for USA from there? I realize some Filipinas have had trouble simply leaving the PH by themselves even if it’s only to meet their fiancé in a third country….

They will see the K1 Visa in the passport when going through passport control in the Philippines. Then they will look for the CFO stamp.

Not a newbie but lost my old info years ago) I have been through this process before --all the way through naturalization-- This site has always been a great help to me. 

 

 

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On 10/28/2021 at 11:05 AM, Carpe Vinum said:

They will see the K1 Visa in the passport when going through passport control in the Philippines. Then they will look for the CFO stamp.

This is correct however they don't really do stamps now. You get a printable certificate with a QR code on it.

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