Proof of trip expenses responsibility.

[Tarik 10]

1 minute ago, bent0110 said:

Exactly. If more documents were required, why would they not indicate which on the form? And every document listed was presented at time of interview. Except for the DS-5535.

I think that's a generic form they use for different reasons and just select the document they need depending on the visa type... In this case they didn't select anything which is very confusing.. You should email the consulate and ask for more information.. They usually reply within 48 hours... 

What kind of financial support letter you included? I'm just writing a letter stating my mother is gonna be staying at my house. 

I doubt your letter was the reason they weren't granted the visa... And the interview separately seems more of an investigation... Maybe they hit nervous and said something opposite of what on the application? 

Either way, they should of were provided with more details about the decision. 

 

[SusieQQQ 11,585]

4 hours ago, bent0110 said:

When is your mother's interview? His parents are Moroccan and live in Morocco. When they arrived, they were told to get new photos. Which was strange because they had new photos they physically brought with them. They also digitally attached photos to their petition. They left, got new photos and returned to Consulate. Once inside, they handed over their paperwork, which included the letter of support. I'm not sure what was reviewed. Then, they were separated and interviewed individually. Then, they were brought back together and interviewed together and asked the same questions. Then they were told to wait for the Chief. Then a clerk came out and handed them this form. That's all I know.

Did the embassy keep their passports or hand them back?

[bent0110 0]

5 minutes ago, geowrian said:

They asked for a DS-5535?

It was listed on the form given, but no box was checked indicating anything was required. We are assuming we must submit the DS-5535.

[SusieQQQ 11,585]

1 minute ago, Tarik said:

I think that's a generic form they use for different reasons and just select the document they need depending on the visa type... In this case they didn't select anything which is very confusing.. You should email the consulate and ask for more information.. They usually reply within 48 hours... 

What kind of financial support letter you included? I'm just writing a letter stating my mother is gonna be staying at my house. 

I doubt your letter was the reason they weren't granted the visa... And the interview separately seems more of an investigation... Maybe they hit nervous and said something opposite of what on the application? 

Either way, they should of were provided with more details about the decision. 

 

Agree on the above, the separate interviews is not usual afaik. 

[bent0110 0]

3 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Did the embassy keep their passports or hand them back?

hand them back.

[SusieQQQ 11,585]

1 minute ago, bent0110 said:

It was listed on the form given, but no box was checked indicating anything was required. We are assuming we must submit the DS-5535.

They would have specifically told them if they wanted it. It is a security questionnaire. 

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3 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Agree on the above, the separate interviews is not usual afaik. 

If you met these two people, they are the least suspicious of any people I have ever know. Simple people from the countryside who only want to visit their grandchildren. Ugh.

[Tarik 10]

Just now, bent0110 said:

If you met these two people, they are the least suspicious of any people I have ever know. Simple people from the countryside who only want to visit their grandchildren. Ugh.

Were you put on their application as the person paying for the trip? And you are their daughter-in-law, correct? 

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7 minutes ago, Tarik said:

I think that's a generic form they use for different reasons and just select the document they need depending on the visa type... In this case they didn't select anything which is very confusing.. You should email the consulate and ask for more information.. They usually reply within 48 hours... 

What kind of financial support letter you included? I'm just writing a letter stating my mother is gonna be staying at my house. 

I doubt your letter was the reason they weren't granted the visa... And the interview separately seems more of an investigation... Maybe they hit nervous and said something opposite of what on the application? 

Either way, they should of were provided with more details about the decision. 

 

It is very confusing. We already emailed the consulate, so hopefully we get a response that will clear up this confusion. A letter written by my husband was included that said they would be staying with him in our home and he would be responsible for them, including financial responsibility. And yes, what they endured seemed more of an interrogation. They separated them from the start, so it couldn't have been a discrepancy in their application. And yes, I agree, they should have been provided with some kind of information about the decision. 

[SusieQQQ 11,585]

The consulate is under no obligation to provide details of a refusal other than a section number. As it was 221g, I would assume that they are in fact still assessing the case and parents might yet get call to submit passports for visa. I wonder if there is some kind of communication misunderstanding between what the parents were told and what they understood/passed on to their child in US. 

[Tarik 10]

9 minutes ago, bent0110 said:

It is very confusing. We already emailed the consulate, so hopefully we get a response that will clear up this confusion. A letter written by my husband was included that said they would be staying with him in our home and he would be responsible for them, including financial responsibility. And yes, what they endured seemed more of an interrogation. They separated them from the start, so it couldn't have been a discrepancy in their application. And yes, I agree, they should have been provided with some kind of information about the decision. 

I think most of these decisions get made before the interview even happens... They approve or deny people based on the info on the ds160... I don't think you or your husband could of done anything to help.. It's really sad. 

My mother will be in the same situation here soon. Hopefully she will have better luck. 

Edited January 6, 2020 by Tarik

[Tarik 10]

1 minute ago, SusieQQQ said:

The consulate is under no obligation to provide details of a refusal other than a section number. As it was 221g, I would assume that they are in fact still assessing the case and parents might yet get call to submit passports for visa. I wonder if there is some kind of communication misunderstanding between what the parents were told and what they understood/passed on to their child in US. 

Is that letter they gave them the same letter they give to everyone they deny? 

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24 minutes ago, Tarik said:

Were you put on their application as the person paying for the trip? And you are their daughter-in-law, correct? 

Yes, I'm the daughter-in-law. But, my husband put himself as the person paying for the trip.

[bent0110 0]

17 minutes ago, Tarik said:

Is that letter they gave them the same letter they give to everyone they deny? 

I'm not sure. I thought if they were refused it would be more clear-cut as to why. 

[geowrian 22,336]

18 minutes ago, Tarik said:

Is that letter they gave them the same letter they give to everyone they deny? 

INA 214(b) is the most common reason - by very far - for refusal of a tourist visa. This coves immigrant intent.

INA 221(g) covers a visa application that does not conform to requirements...essentially they are unable to make a decision on eligibility for the visa yet. This covers things like background checks, review of documents, waiting for documents to be submitted, etc.