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Hi all,

I recently got the approval for my i-751 and I will be eligible to apply for Citizenship on 10/29/2019

I have a question regarding the time spent out side the US.

 

I started the online application and I will submit it as soon as I am eligible. 

 

I became a LPR on 1/27/17 and never traveled outside the US since I became a LPR, in fact I arrived on a K1 visa on 6/30/16 and never left the US since then.

 

BUT -Before i became a LPR -  I have been in the US on a Tourist visa for a month and departed on 1/12/15

Then I returned back to the US on 6/15/15 on a J-1 Visa (Work and Travel - 2 year rule did not apply for AOS) and departed on 10/30/15.


So I was outside the US between 1/12/15 and 6/15/15 and then 10/30/15-6/30/16 when I came on a K1 visa. so total of 396 days outside, but was not a LPR back then.

 

I added these dates since they asked for the last 5 years. 

 

Silly question, but this won't be an issue, correct?

 

I know one of the requirements is: Be physically present in the United States for at least 18 months out of the 3 years immediately preceding the date of filing the application. 

 

Thank you!

 

Edited by alexpop13

I-751/ROC application

·         10/09/2018 - Received reminder notice dated October 3 from USCIS to apply for ROC

·         10/29/2018 - I-751 Sent via FedEx

·         10/30/2018 - I-751 was delivered and signed for

·         11/05/2018 - Text notification received at 6:16 AM & Check was cashed

·         12/11/2018 - Received NOA 1(extension letter) dated December 6 in the mail

·         06/21/2019 - Received biometrics appointment notice dated June 14 in the mail

·         07/01/2019 - Biometrics Appointment

·         07/01/2019 - Status Changed to Fingerprint Review Was Completed

·         07/02/2019 - Status Changed again to Fingerprint Review Was Completed

·         09/26/2019 - Status Changed to New Card Is Being Produced

·         09/27/2019 - Status Changed to Case Was Approved

·         10/01/2019 - Approval Notice dated September 26 received in the mail

·         10/01/2019 - Status Changed to Card Was Mailed to Me

·         10/02/2019 - Status Changed to Card Was Picked Up By United States Postal Service

·         10/04/2019 -  Green Card received in the mail

·         10/04/2019 - Status Changed to Card Was Delivered To Me By The Post Office

 

N-400/Naturalization application

·         10/29/2019 - Naturalization window opens

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Should not be an issue. The Citizenship clock if you want to look at it that way started in 1/27/17 for you. Pretty much everything before that wouldn't matter in counting for citizenship as like you said the time doesn't begin until you become an LPR.

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I agree, since you were not a resident at the time of your earlier visits and departures, I would not worry about them.  They (USCIS) are really interested in the time since you became an LPR, so in your case, your international travel history from the US would only be three years.

 

Good Luck!

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They ask for 5 years because of those who apply for the 5 year rule.

I personally would not put any dates on there from before I arrived on the K-1 visa. 


K-1 + K-2:                                                                                                                                AOS from K-1 + K-2:

02/02/16....I-129F mailed to Lewisville, TX                                                                       08/25/16....AOS package mailed to Chicago, IL

02/03/16....Delivered at Lewisville, TX                                                                               08/26/16....Delivered at Chicago, IL

02/08/16....NOA1 Text & E-mail. Case sent to CSC                                                         09/01/16....NOA1 Text & E-mail

02/12/16....NOA1 Hard copy received                                                                               09/09/16....NOA1 Hard copy received

03/24/16....NOA2 (45 days)                                                                                                 09/15/16....Bio-letter received for K-1/K-2 for Sep. 26th

03/29/16....NOA2 Hard copy received                                                                               09/19/16....Bio appointment done (Walk-in)

03/31/16....Medical                                                                                                              11/01/16.....EAD/AP approved

05/26/16....Interview                                                                                                            11/16/16.....EAD/AP card received

06/10/16....Visa in hand                                                                                                       03/08/17.....AOS Approved - No interview

06/21/16....POE Atlanta                                                                                                       03/15/17.....Green cards in hand

07/30/16....Wedding                                                                                                    

                                                                                                                                       

 

ROC from K-1 + K-2:

12/08/18....ROC window opens

12/13/18....I-751 mailed to Lewisville, TX

12/14/18....Delivered at Lewisville, TX

12/20/18....Text with case number. TX service center

12/24/18....NOA1/Extension letter received

 

 

 

 

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Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, Georgia16 said:

They ask for 5 years because of those who apply for the 5 year rule.

I personally would not put any dates on there from before I arrived on the K-1 visa. 

This is a good suggestion. Sometimes more isn't always good, but have the dates if they ask at the interview.

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Thank you all! Should I do the same thing for Address and Employment? Just 3 years? Say since I arrived on the  K1 visa.

 

 


I-751/ROC application

·         10/09/2018 - Received reminder notice dated October 3 from USCIS to apply for ROC

·         10/29/2018 - I-751 Sent via FedEx

·         10/30/2018 - I-751 was delivered and signed for

·         11/05/2018 - Text notification received at 6:16 AM & Check was cashed

·         12/11/2018 - Received NOA 1(extension letter) dated December 6 in the mail

·         06/21/2019 - Received biometrics appointment notice dated June 14 in the mail

·         07/01/2019 - Biometrics Appointment

·         07/01/2019 - Status Changed to Fingerprint Review Was Completed

·         07/02/2019 - Status Changed again to Fingerprint Review Was Completed

·         09/26/2019 - Status Changed to New Card Is Being Produced

·         09/27/2019 - Status Changed to Case Was Approved

·         10/01/2019 - Approval Notice dated September 26 received in the mail

·         10/01/2019 - Status Changed to Card Was Mailed to Me

·         10/02/2019 - Status Changed to Card Was Picked Up By United States Postal Service

·         10/04/2019 -  Green Card received in the mail

·         10/04/2019 - Status Changed to Card Was Delivered To Me By The Post Office

 

N-400/Naturalization application

·         10/29/2019 - Naturalization window opens

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1 hour ago, Georgia16 said:

They ask for 5 years because of those who apply for the 5 year rule.

I personally would not put any dates on there from before I arrived on the K-1 visa. 

@Georgia16

The only thing with this the question is Have you taken a trip outside of the United States in the last 5 years?

If I go since I came on the K1 visa I have never traveled outside the US I would put no, however if I strictly answer the question I did travel outside the US in the past 5 years then I have to put yes and put the dates.

 


I-751/ROC application

·         10/09/2018 - Received reminder notice dated October 3 from USCIS to apply for ROC

·         10/29/2018 - I-751 Sent via FedEx

·         10/30/2018 - I-751 was delivered and signed for

·         11/05/2018 - Text notification received at 6:16 AM & Check was cashed

·         12/11/2018 - Received NOA 1(extension letter) dated December 6 in the mail

·         06/21/2019 - Received biometrics appointment notice dated June 14 in the mail

·         07/01/2019 - Biometrics Appointment

·         07/01/2019 - Status Changed to Fingerprint Review Was Completed

·         07/02/2019 - Status Changed again to Fingerprint Review Was Completed

·         09/26/2019 - Status Changed to New Card Is Being Produced

·         09/27/2019 - Status Changed to Case Was Approved

·         10/01/2019 - Approval Notice dated September 26 received in the mail

·         10/01/2019 - Status Changed to Card Was Mailed to Me

·         10/02/2019 - Status Changed to Card Was Picked Up By United States Postal Service

·         10/04/2019 -  Green Card received in the mail

·         10/04/2019 - Status Changed to Card Was Delivered To Me By The Post Office

 

N-400/Naturalization application

·         10/29/2019 - Naturalization window opens

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1 minute ago, alexpop13 said:

@Georgia16

The only thing with this the question is Have you taken a trip outside of the United States in the last 5 years?

If I go since I came on the K1 visa I have never traveled outside the US I would put no, however if I strictly answer the question I did travel outside the US in the past 5 years then I have to put yes and put the dates.

 

But the question is formed as you lived in the US. Because Yes you travelled outside the US as you didn't even live here. Do you see how that sounds? I will only do from I came here til when I file the petition because I'm filing with the 3 year rule. 


K-1 + K-2:                                                                                                                                AOS from K-1 + K-2:

02/02/16....I-129F mailed to Lewisville, TX                                                                       08/25/16....AOS package mailed to Chicago, IL

02/03/16....Delivered at Lewisville, TX                                                                               08/26/16....Delivered at Chicago, IL

02/08/16....NOA1 Text & E-mail. Case sent to CSC                                                         09/01/16....NOA1 Text & E-mail

02/12/16....NOA1 Hard copy received                                                                               09/09/16....NOA1 Hard copy received

03/24/16....NOA2 (45 days)                                                                                                 09/15/16....Bio-letter received for K-1/K-2 for Sep. 26th

03/29/16....NOA2 Hard copy received                                                                               09/19/16....Bio appointment done (Walk-in)

03/31/16....Medical                                                                                                              11/01/16.....EAD/AP approved

05/26/16....Interview                                                                                                            11/16/16.....EAD/AP card received

06/10/16....Visa in hand                                                                                                       03/08/17.....AOS Approved - No interview

06/21/16....POE Atlanta                                                                                                       03/15/17.....Green cards in hand

07/30/16....Wedding                                                                                                    

                                                                                                                                       

 

ROC from K-1 + K-2:

12/08/18....ROC window opens

12/13/18....I-751 mailed to Lewisville, TX

12/14/18....Delivered at Lewisville, TX

12/20/18....Text with case number. TX service center

12/24/18....NOA1/Extension letter received

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Georgia16 said:

But the question is formed as you lived in the US. Because Yes you traveled outside the US as you didn't even live here. Do you see how that sounds? I will only do from I came here til when I file the petition because I'm filing with the 3 year rule. 

I see your point. Then I am gonna go ahead and use 3 years for Address, Employment and answer  NO to Have you taken a trip outside of the United States in the last 5 years?  Since I only moved to and lived here, in the US as of 6/30/16

Thank you for your input. 


I-751/ROC application

·         10/09/2018 - Received reminder notice dated October 3 from USCIS to apply for ROC

·         10/29/2018 - I-751 Sent via FedEx

·         10/30/2018 - I-751 was delivered and signed for

·         11/05/2018 - Text notification received at 6:16 AM & Check was cashed

·         12/11/2018 - Received NOA 1(extension letter) dated December 6 in the mail

·         06/21/2019 - Received biometrics appointment notice dated June 14 in the mail

·         07/01/2019 - Biometrics Appointment

·         07/01/2019 - Status Changed to Fingerprint Review Was Completed

·         07/02/2019 - Status Changed again to Fingerprint Review Was Completed

·         09/26/2019 - Status Changed to New Card Is Being Produced

·         09/27/2019 - Status Changed to Case Was Approved

·         10/01/2019 - Approval Notice dated September 26 received in the mail

·         10/01/2019 - Status Changed to Card Was Mailed to Me

·         10/02/2019 - Status Changed to Card Was Picked Up By United States Postal Service

·         10/04/2019 -  Green Card received in the mail

·         10/04/2019 - Status Changed to Card Was Delivered To Me By The Post Office

 

N-400/Naturalization application

·         10/29/2019 - Naturalization window opens

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22 hours ago, Georgia16 said:

They ask for 5 years because of those who apply for the 5 year rule.

I personally would not put any dates on there from before I arrived on the K-1 visa. 

More specifically, I wouldn't add anything before you became an LPR (yes, I understand you haven't left at all, but more in general)

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