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Hey VJers,

 

My wife and I are going to be living in housing provided by my employer. As such, we will not have a lease, but we should be able to get utilities put in our name for the time we live there. We are required to have a PO Box as mail can't be delivered to that address.

 

Will this be okay for evidence of a bona fide marriage for the I-751?

 

Things we will have: utilities in both of our names (probably), joint investment and bank account (will put her on my accounts), joint credit card (need to set this up once in the States), joint tax returns and most likely children (with birth certificates obviously) by the time of filing. Would all this outweigh the lack of a joint lease for about 2 years?


8/16/18 -- Married

10/23/18 -- I-130 filed (DCF in Beijing)

12/03/18 -- I-130 approved

12/23/18 -- Packet 3 Sent to GZ

12/28/18 -- Packet 4 received

02/14/19 -- Interview in GZ -- approved!

Total: 113 days from filing to approval

Next step: naturalization!

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5 minutes ago, Dongbei said:

Hey VJers,

 

My wife and I are going to be living in housing provided by my employer. As such, we will not have a lease, but we should be able to get utilities put in our name for the time we live there. We are required to have a PO Box as mail can't be delivered to that address.

 

Will this be okay for evidence of a bona fide marriage for the I-751?

 

Things we will have: utilities in both of our names (probably), joint investment and bank account (will put her on my accounts), joint credit card (need to set this up once in the States), joint tax returns and most likely children (with birth certificates obviously) by the time of filing. Would all this outweigh the lack of a joint lease for about 2 years?

A lease document is just one possible out of many .. for lots of reasons. You can’t send what  you don’t have . Other items such as beneficiary of each other’s will, driver’s licence showing same address , health insurance , vehicle registration and insurance in joint names.. phone plans shared, ... the lack of a lease will be insignificant if you have solid strong documentation from other sources 

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Agree with @Lil bear.  A joint lease is just one piece of a larger picture.  Don't worry about it.  Concentrate on what you CAN provide...good luck.


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  • Texas Service Center after transfer from Nebraska
  • Consulate :Taipei, Taiwan
  • Marriage: 7/30/2015
  • I-130 NOA1 : 4/27/2016
  • I-130 Approved :9/8/2016
  • Case received at NVC: 10/11/2016                               
  • Case # and IIN#: 10/24/2016
  • AOS Fee Invoiced:10/24/2016  
  • AOS Fee Paid:10/25/2016
  • IV Fee Invoiced:10/24/2016  
  • IV Fee Paid:10/25/2016
  • DS-260 Completed: 10/28/16
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  • Supervisor review: 12/21/16 
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  • Interview Date: 5/8/17 
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  • Visa and Passport in hand/Flight to USA Booked!!!: 5/12/17  
  • POE Dallas DFW on June 22, 2017
  • SS Card received : 7/3/2017
  • 2-year Green Card received in mail: 7/15/17
  • I751 mailed to Dallas PO Box: 3/28/2019
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Explain in a letter to USCIS at time of filing, save employer document or contract stating that they are providing you housing, provide other evidences of bonafide marriage.


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OP,

Like others have mentioned....don't worry about not having your name on a lease and focus on what evidence you can provide to prove a bona fide marriage. :) 


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HUSBAND FILED I-130: 29-MAY-2015

VISAS IN HAND; GREEN CARD FEES PAID: 21-JUN-2016

PORT OF ENTRY - FT. LAUDERDALE INTL AIRPORT: 06-AUG-2016
GREEN CARDS RECEIVED: 23-SEP-2016
 
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We also don't have a joint lease.  The Montreal consulate is very strict on domicile, so I had to the US before my spouse to establish resume, so his name is not on the lease.  We didn't want to change it because where we live, we have rent control, and don't want to sign a new lease that could cause our rent to increase.

 

We have the same address on our driver's licenses, as well as multiple utility bills.  We also had our affidavit writers mention staying with us in our shared apartment.  Hopefully that's enough to prove we're living together.


I-130

May 14, 2016: Sent I-130 Package to Chicago Lockbox

May 18, 2016: Chicago Lockbox received package.

May 20, 2016: NOA1 Notice Date with priority date of May 18. Sent to Nebraska Service Center

May 23, 2016: NOA1 E-mail

Oct 21, 2016: NOA2 Notice by App

Nov 2, 2016: USCIS sent to NVC

 

NVC

Nov 8, 2016: NVC Received

Nov 16, 2016: Case Number Assigned

Nov 18, 2016: DS-261 submitted and AOS fee paid

Nov 23, 2016: IV Fee Invoiced and paid

Nov 30, 2016: IV and AOS Packages Sent (EP)

Dec 4, 2016: DS-260 Submitted

Dec 5, 2016: NVC Scan Date

Dec 6, 2016: NVC 3 N/A and Case Complete on Phone [1 day later!]

Dec 13, 2016: NVC CC e-mail

Dec 15, 2016: Found out interview date by phone

Jan 23, 2017: Interview...Approved!

 

Jan 30, 2017: POE Toronto Pearson Airport

 

Removing Conditions

Nov 2, 2018: Sent I-751 to Arizona Lockbox

Nov 7, 2018: Apparent receipt date (SMS notification on 11/9)

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