Death toll to 9 after bodies found in truck at San Antonio Walmart

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1 minute ago, IAMX said:

I gave you someone else's answer? 

 

If you're not going to answer then don't tell me I am the one avoiding the question. Okay, not wasting more time/energy on this. 

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10 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

If you're not going to answer then don't tell me I am the one avoiding the question. Okay, not wasting more time/energy on this. 

I did give you an answer and I'll be nice enough to add an analogy to that answer.. 

 

If you advertise to criminals you keep your car unlocked and don't have any security system are the odds higher it gets broken into? Or would making it look like you lock that car down possibly make criminals prefer to leave yours alone? 

 

Very similar to psychologically preventing people from attempting to break the law and take this kind of stupid risk. Obama's policies emboldened actions like this. Trumps,  thus far, has gone in the other direction. 

 

Why they come.. because they have a higher expectation they will be able to stay illegally. I don't sympathize with people who deliberately break laws, and moreover I think situations like this sends an appropriate message to foreigners,  who wish to try,  to reconsider. 

Edited July 24, 2017 by IAMX

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1 minute ago, IAMX said:

I did give you an answer and I'll be nice enough to add an analogy to that answer.. 

 

If you advertise to criminals you keep your car unlocked and don't have any security system are the odds higher it gets broken into? Or would making it look like you lock that car down possibly make criminals prefer to leave yours alone? 

 

Very similar to psychologically preventing people from attempting to break the law and take this kind of stupid risk. Obama's policies emboldened actions like this. Trumps,  thus far, has gone in the other direction. 

 

Why they come.. because they have a higher expectation they will be able to stay illegally. I don't sympathize with people who deliberately break laws, and moreover I think situations like this sends an appropriate message to those who wish to try to reconsider. 

So you think that they are just coming here because "the door is open"? You don't think maybe there's an underlying cause as to why they risk their life coming here? Say... I don't know... Fleeing drug cartels who would otherwise force them to work for them? I of course doesn't say all of them are but there's a big chunk of them. They're the ones I sympathize with. The rest who come just because they can, not so much. 

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16 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

So you think that they are just coming here because "the door is open"? You don't think maybe there's an underlying cause as to why they risk their life coming here? Say... I don't know... Fleeing drug cartels who would otherwise force them to work for them? I of course doesn't say all of them are but there's a big chunk of them. They're the ones I sympathize with. The rest who come just because they can, not so much. 

The opinion I gave is more objective. Subjectively I don't care what their personal reasons are.. all are equally valid as long as they respect US laws and customs. If they don't, well..  their personal reasons are still as irrelevant to me. My sympathies lie with legal residents and citizens who suffer because of illegals. 

Edited July 24, 2017 by IAMX

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What is interesting is that the unemployment rate in Mexico is at an 11 year low.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mexicos-unemployment-at-11-year-low-in-june-1500653914

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Very similar situation to Mama Merkel in Germany, actions have consequences and people die.

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5 hours ago, Unidentified said:

I think you should learn why they come here before you complain about them being here. There's a pretty obvious reason why a lot of them are here and I'm pretty sure it is not even close to what you think is the reason. 

Maybe they come here due to the draw from the sanctuary cities?

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7 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Maybe they come here due to the draw from the sanctuary cities?

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Donald Trump failing to stop illegals as promised, granted there are tons of other things that he promised and failed to deliver. I seem to recall a thread or two glorifying the turning of the tide on illegal immigrants even trying. Yet these people suffered and died, the same people say that it's a good thing, but the fact that they even tried isn't Trumps fault, it's Obamas. Sad but predictable, Trump will never be responsible for anything in some minds.

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Just now, ready4ONE said:

Donald Trump failing to stop illegals as promised, granted there are tons of other things that he promised and failed to deliver. I seem to recall a thread or two glorifying the turning of the tide on illegal immigrants even trying. Yet these people suffered and died, the same people say that it's a good thing, but the fact that they even tried isn't Trumps fault, it's Obamas. Sad but predictable, Trump will never be responsible for anything in some minds.

Yep, all Trump's fault.  

 

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1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

Yep, all Trump's fault.  

 

Agreed.

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7 minutes ago, ready4ONE said:

Donald Trump failing to stop illegals as promised, granted there are tons of other things that he promised and failed to deliver. I seem to recall a thread or two glorifying the turning of the tide on illegal immigrants even trying. Yet these people suffered and died, the same people say that it's a good thing, but the fact that they even tried isn't Trumps fault, it's Obamas. Sad but predictable, Trump will never be responsible for anything in some minds.

 

Mentally Trump is a child, so the cultists who follow him will always find a way to justify his actions, and lack thereof as well. The man child is our of his depth, and everyone keeps trying to cover up for him.

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18 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

Mentally Trump is a child, so the cultists who follow him will always find a way to justify his actions, and lack thereof as well. The man child is our of his depth, and everyone keeps trying to cover up for him.

Back to the armchair psychology.  

 

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25 minutes ago, ready4ONE said:

Agreed.

Maybe the lure of sanctuary cities had something to do with it.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Back to the armchair psychology.