The US police officer 'who shot an Australian woman, 40, dead' in her pyjamas while his body camera was switched off

[bcking 3,157]

14 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Selective quoting is a beautiful thing.

 

"With all due respect, the fact is, we had four dead Americans! Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again."

 

With the actual quote it is clear her point was that 4 Americans died. It doesn't matter if they died due to a protest, or because some random people decided to kill Americans. They died either way and their deaths are what is important.

 

When you only quote a single sentence you leave out the subject of the word "it". The subject is pretty clearly the cause of the event, not the loss of American lives. You also leave out her concluding statement.

 

It's sad that this sort of thing has to be explained...

 

EDIT:

Also, for the record, the only person calling marines "trash" here is the person who made that meme. 

 

Also, the meme really poorly utilizes a simile (by "really poorly" I mean incorrectly). What does "left to die like trash" even mean? You don't leave trash out to die. Trash isn't living. A common simile involving trash is when something is "discarded like trash". But not "left to die". Once again it is really sad that people need this explained.

Edited July 17, 2017 by bcking

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, CaliCat said:

And YOU call our Marines, trash. Indeed, disgusting, but they are the very people who make your first amendment right possible.

 

 

 

 

Hey, let's bash our military, if we ain't got nothing better to do.

i'm perplexed here. a woman dies needlessly by cop, lets wonder if she was legal..i question why her papers even matter since she's dead and get hit with a hillary let marines die like trash. 

[CaliCat 3,957]

Just now, smilesammich said:

i'm perplexed here. a woman dies needlessly by cop, lets wonder if she was legal..i question why her papers even matter since she's dead and get hit with a hillary let marines die like trash. 

 

The deficit is real, I am afraid.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, CaliCat said:

 

The deficit is real, I am afraid.

and not even addressing the 'white lives matter' bait.

[CaliCat 3,957]

Just now, smilesammich said:

and not even addressing the 'white lives matter' bait.

 

That will come in due time. First we need to bash the American military, and those who serve.

[IAMX 3,055]

46 minutes ago, Boiler said:

She's quite the piece of work.

 

Feel free to replace work with a much harsher noun.

Edited July 17, 2017 by IAMX

[Ban Hammer 14,297]

29 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

That will come in due time. First we need to bash the American military, and those who serve.

[CaliCat 3,957]

2 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

 

You said it!

 

If all else fails and you have no argument to make, bring in Hillary, bash our military, and whistle by the graveyard. 

Edited July 17, 2017 by CaliCat

[bcking 3,157]

2 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

Considering the original position that he was responding to was itself full of horrible logical fallacies, I'm going to give him a slide on this one.

 

As I already pointed out - The only person to mention that our soldiers are "left to die like trash (Again...what does that even mean? Whoever wrote that meme fails at the English language) is the creator of the meme

Furthermore, the meme itself quotes a single sentence in a quote that has several other sentences that are integral to understanding the sentence quoted. The sentence uses a pronoun (it), but the meme leaves out the sentence which establishes what the pronoun refers to.

 

It is such a horrible constructed "argument" (even the fact that people use memes to relay arguments/statements is itself a sad reflection on our society) that you can't help but treat it with disrespect.

[bcking 3,157]

3 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

You said it!

 

If all else fails and you have no argument to make, bring in Hillary, bash our military, and whistle by the graveyard. 

Don't forget 

 

1. Utilize incomplete quotation fragments

2. Fail to use the English language correctly (e.g. Attempt to construct a simile and fail horribly at it)

 

Their heads are in the clouds....like a donkey

[IAMX 3,055]

14 minutes ago, bcking said:

Considering the original position that he was responding to was itself full of horrible logical fallacies, I'm going to give him a slide on this one.

 

As I already pointed out - The only person to mention that our soldiers are "left to die like trash (Again...what does that even mean? Whoever wrote that meme fails at the English language) is the creator of the meme

Furthermore, the meme itself quotes a single sentence in a quote that has several other sentences that are integral to understanding the sentence quoted. The sentence uses a pronoun (it), but the meme leaves out the sentence which establishes what the pronoun refers to.

 

It is such a horrible constructed "argument" (even the fact that people use memes to relay arguments/statements is itself a sad reflection on our society) that you can't help but treat it with disrespect.

It's plainly obvious that they're eluding to the way Hillary and co treats them is like trash. Being pedantic for nothing. No sense in skipping over the purpose of playing the "I'm offended" card, a poor attempt to silence dissenting opinions with outrage. This card is played out.

Edited July 17, 2017 by IAMX

[smilesammich 10,727]

the hillary card is what is played out. not to mention hillary has nothing to do with the op.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 hour ago, bcking said:

Maybe I'm just too squishy but I think it is generally reasonable to sympathize with someone who was shot and killed until you have information to suggest they don't deserve sympathy. I'd rather do that than the opposite, where my default would be to assume they "deserved it" and offer no sympathy.

 

In addition, I feel the article is quite fair in discussing the camera being off. They don't just say "It was off, therefore this cop is a criminal". They explain that the body cameras are off as a default in Minneapolis, and they need to be actively switched on. They also quote that usage of the body cameras is as low as 4%, highlighting that this officer was not "unique" in the fact that his camera was off. It doesn't seem like standard practice to use the body cameras in that area.

 

Or you could be logical and not draw conclusions or sympathize with either side until the facts are out 

[Boiler 47,526]

1 hour ago, smilesammich said:

i'm perplexed here. a woman dies needlessly by cop, lets wonder if she was legal..i question why her papers even matter since she's dead and get hit with a hillary let marines die like trash. 

Look to the top, you may have forgotten the site you are on.

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Look to the top, you may have forgotten the site you are on.

so, let's not speculate as to if we should sympathize with the dead lady but it's cool to speculate if she was legally present in the us. hillary still has absolutely nothing to do with this.