15 million Americans are drinking contaminated water, a new report finds

[Dashinka 24,609]

We recently got rid of all the pots and pans that had non-stick coatings.  The new ones can be a pain to clean, but the teflon is not there anymore.

 

June 10, 2017

The water you're drinking could be contaminated.

According to a new joint report by the Environmental Working Group (EWG) and Northeastern University, drinking water for 15 million Americans in 27 states is contaminated with toxic chemicals.

The chemicals in question -- known as PFCs, or perfluorochemicals -- are used to make nonstick cookware, according to Time.

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As Time reports, PFCs have been linked to cancer, thyroid disease and weakened immune systems. Teflon, for example, is a PFOA chemical.

And according to the report, event tiny concentrations are enough to be considered a public health crisis. 

"It's remarkable that the richest country on Earth can't guarantee its citizens that their drinking water is completely safe and has no long-term health implications," Bill Walker, managing editor of EWG, said in a statement.

 

http://circa.com/lifestyle/food/15-million-americans-are-drinking-contaminated-water-a-new-report-finds

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

48 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

We recently got rid of all the pots and pans that had non-stick coatings.  The new ones can be a pain to clean, but the teflon is not there anymore.

 

June 10, 2017

The water you're drinking could be contaminated.

According to a new joint report by the Environmental Working Group (EWG) and Northeastern University, drinking water for 15 million Americans in 27 states is contaminated with toxic chemicals.

The chemicals in question -- known as PFCs, or perfluorochemicals -- are used to make nonstick cookware, according to Time.

1 of 4

As Time reports, PFCs have been linked to cancer, thyroid disease and weakened immune systems. Teflon, for example, is a PFOA chemical.

And according to the report, event tiny concentrations are enough to be considered a public health crisis. 

"It's remarkable that the richest country on Earth can't guarantee its citizens that their drinking water is completely safe and has no long-term health implications," Bill Walker, managing editor of EWG, said in a statement.

 

http://circa.com/lifestyle/food/15-million-americans-are-drinking-contaminated-water-a-new-report-finds

This is one of the reasons why cases of cancer are exploding.

[IAMX 3,055]

The dangerous water quality around the country is rather concerning.

 

Of course, as it stands now, the concern I have with cancer relates to the population and the extreme increase in obesity and all the cancers that go along with that umbrella of diseases.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

41 minutes ago, IAMX said:

The dangerous water quality around the country is rather concerning.

 

Of course, as it stands now, the concern I have with cancer relates to the population and the extreme increase in obesity and all the cancers that go along with that umbrella of diseases.

That is totally true, a large population worldwide are not taking care of themselves at all, and are eating themselves into a early grave. My mother even noticed this around her area in NC, she flat out said "Almost everybody is somewhat obese today which is sad". 

[IAMX 3,055]

8 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

That is totally true, a large population worldwide are not taking care of themselves at all, and are eating themselves into a early grave. My mother even noticed this around her area in NC, she flat out said "Almost everybody is somewhat obese today which is sad". 

I suspect at some point within the next few decades the average American lifespan will decrease as the last healthy boomer generations die off.

 

Having the best doctors and care in the world is meaningless if people are both living unhealthy lives and avoid preventative care.

Edited June 11, 2017 by IAMX

[OriZ 3,157]

1 hour ago, IAMX said:

The dangerous water quality around the country is rather concerning.

 

Of course, as it stands now, the concern I have with cancer relates to the population and the extreme increase in obesity and all the cancers that go along with that umbrella of diseases.

 

10 minutes ago, IAMX said:

I suspect at some point within the next few decades the average American lifespan will decrease as the last healthy boomer generations die off.

 

Having the best doctors and care in the world is meaningless if people are both living unhealthy lives and avoid preventative care.

I think there are several reasons in play as to why we hear of more and more cancer cases. Sure, some of them, especially in younger people have to do with some of the things we've already discussed as well as the OP. However, we shouldn't forget that still, many cases of cancer are in elderly people, usually ages where people weren't even alive anymore. Naturally we live longer = more diseases, including cancer. Regarding the second quote, judging at least by the experience of my wife and some others I know, I wouldn't even say that the US has the best doctors and care. I have heard so many horror stories of clueless doctors and hell, we still have to deal with them. It took them years to not figure out stuff the doctors in Israel figured out with her in an instant. Also I disagree that people "avoid" preventative care. While some are uneducated, many just can't afford it. Unfortunately insurance in the US does not believe in preventative and that's a big part of the problem. 

[IAMX 3,055]

14 minutes ago, OriZ said:

 

I think there are several reasons in play as to why we hear of more and more cancer cases. Sure, some of them, especially in younger people have to do with some of the things we've already discussed as well as the OP. However, we shouldn't forget that still, many cases of cancer are in elderly people, usually ages where people weren't even alive anymore. Naturally we live longer = more diseases, including cancer. Regarding the second quote, judging at least by the experience of my wife and some others I know, I wouldn't even say that the US has the best doctors and care. I have heard so many horror stories of clueless doctors and hell, we still have to deal with them. It took them years to not figure out stuff the doctors in Israel figured out with her in an instant. Also I disagree that people "avoid" preventative care. While some are uneducated, many just can't afford it. Unfortunately insurance in the US does not believe in preventative and that's a big part of the problem. 

Regarding this point, that's exactly what I mean.. people think with their wallets regarding their health (not blaming them for this, it's 100% necessary in the US crummy healthcare system), so naturally they're going to miss things.

 

Numerous organs show no obvious signs of diseases (that especially lead to cancer) until it's progressed to a point that has dramatically altered lifespan. Liver disease is a good example -- vast majority of people who have preventative care done learn of liver disease from blood tests (liver panel).. by the time they would experience side-effects, such as pale stools, swelling in the legs/hands, jaundice, pain from nerves from the liver swelling up (since the liver has no nerve fibers), etc., that would prompt them to see someone about it, the majority are already looking at fibrosis and/or cirrhosis diagnoses, just a hop skip and a jump from hepatocarcinomas. This is one example of the downfalls of not having preventative care done.

 

Water is another example.. firstly, dangerous chemicals aren't sufficiently filtered out. And secondly, people don't drink enough of it.

Edited June 11, 2017 by IAMX

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

12 minutes ago, IAMX said:

Regarding this point, that's exactly what I mean.. people think with their wallets regarding their health (not blaming them for this, it's 100% necessary in the US crummy healthcare system), so naturally they're going to miss things.

 

Numerous organs show no obvious signs of diseases (that especially lead to cancer) until it's progressed to a point that has dramatically altered lifespan. Liver disease is a good example -- vast majority of people learn of liver disease from blood tests (liver panel).. by the time they would experience side-effects, such as pale stools, swelling in the legs/hands, jaundice, pain from nerves from the liver swelling up (since the liver has no nerve fibers), etc., the majority are already looking at fibrosis and/or cirrhosis diagnoses, just a hop skip and a jump from hepatocarcinomas. This is one example of the downfalls of not having preventative care done.

19 minutes ago, OriZ said:

 

I think there are several reasons in play as to why we hear of more and more cancer cases. Sure, some of them, especially in younger people have to do with some of the things we've already discussed as well as the OP. However, we shouldn't forget that still, many cases of cancer are in elderly people, usually ages where people weren't even alive anymore. Naturally we live longer = more diseases, including cancer. Regarding the second quote, judging at least by the experience of my wife and some others I know, I wouldn't even say that the US has the best doctors and care. I have heard so many horror stories of clueless doctors and hell, we still have to deal with them. It took them years to not figure out stuff the doctors in Israel figured out with her in an instant. Also I disagree that people "avoid" preventative care. While some are uneducated, many just can't afford it. Unfortunately insurance in the US does not believe in preventative and that's a big part of the problem. 

Water is another example.. firstly, dangerous chemicals aren't sufficiently filtered out. And secondly, people don't drink enough of it. 

 

I completely agree with both of y'all on this. I think preventive care is a key component of being healthy. It literally takes next to no effort to schedule exams for preventive care for a dental exam, blood work, or a physical. I thank God that I have the VA and I do my blood work and my physical through them, and I follow up with the blood work myself just in case there is something in there. Also with the dentist I ensure that all my family gets a cleaning and a check up every 6 months from a great dentist, and one that is willing to let me bring my 2-3 year old for a check up so she can get used to it. 

 

I think that with Obamacare preventive care is a key aspect of it. Alot of parts of it I don't like but that part is one I really like. The majority of preventive care is covered by the insurance. 

 

Water is another aspect of it as well, one that I push hard. The amount of water that I drink everyday averages between 3-5 liters a day, and yes I count. As stated earlier drinking enough water for it to flush out the body is a key aspect of staying healthy. 

Edited June 11, 2017 by cyberfx1024

[OriZ 3,157]

14 minutes ago, IAMX said:

Regarding this point, that's exactly what I mean.. people think with their wallets regarding their health (not blaming them for this, it's 100% necessary in the US crummy healthcare system), so naturally they're going to miss things.

 

Numerous organs show no obvious signs of diseases (that especially lead to cancer) until it's progressed to a point that has dramatically altered lifespan. Liver disease is a good example -- vast majority of people learn of liver disease from blood tests (liver panel).. by the time they would experience side-effects, such as pale stools, swelling in the legs/hands, jaundice, pain from nerves from the liver swelling up (since the liver has no nerve fibers), etc., the majority are already looking at fibrosis and/or cirrhosis diagnoses, just a hop skip and a jump from hepatocarcinomas. This is one example of the downfalls of not having preventative care done.

I agree. I would say by the time you experience jaundice you've probably had cirrhosis for quite a while and if your bilirubin is sky high(>5) don't expect to live much longer. It's sad really because simple ALT/AST/ALP/Bilirubin/Albumin/Total Protein labs could reveal alot. As I mentioned before, we do a complete blood count, plus all the panels(metabolic, lipid etc) and whatever other tests we can get away with(d3 etc) every 6 months or so. 

Edited June 11, 2017 by OriZ

[OriZ 3,157]

3 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

 

I completely agree with both of y'all on this. I think preventive care is a key component of being healthy. It literally takes next to no effort to schedule exams for preventive care for a dental exam, blood work, or a physical. I thank God that I have the VA and I do my blood work and my physical through them, and I follow up with the blood work myself just in case there is something in there. Also with the dentist I ensure that all my family gets a cleaning and a check up every 6 months from a great dentist, and one that is willing to let me bring my 2-3 year old for a check up so she can get used to it. 

 

Yes I always sign up to the online portals and if lab results are not there within 2 days I start emailing my doctor. I like looking at them myself and reading them myself as I understand most of them. In Israel they were always released instantly that same day by the lab whereas here I have to wait for doc to review and release which I hate.

[IAMX 3,055]

Just now, cyberfx1024 said:

 

I completely agree with both of y'all on this. I think preventive care is a key component of being healthy. It literally takes next to no effort to schedule exams for preventive care for a dental exam, blood work, or a physical. I thank God that I have the VA and I do my blood work and my physical through them, and I follow up with the blood work myself just in case there is something in there. Also with the dentist I ensure that all my family gets a cleaning and a check up every 6 months from a great dentist, and one that is willing to let me bring my 2-3 year old for a check up so she can get used to it. 

 

I think that insurance with Obamacare that preventive care is a key aspect of it. Alot of parts of it I don't like but that part is one I really like. The majority of preventive care is covered by the insurance. 

 

Water is another aspect of it as well, one that I push hard. The amount of water that I drink everyday averages between 3-5 liters a day, and yes I count. 

That's got me beat, I drink 2-4L of water. 

 

There were a couple "benefits" of Obamacare (pre-existing conditions, preventative care as you mentioned [something I didn't even know], etc.) that could have been passed without the mandate. The mandate is what drove the costs up and hurt those on government benefits. 

 

As for the contaminated water, what's the excuse? It's jurisdictional in some cases (re: Flint), but looking at this link @OriZI believe cited (or it might have been someone else from another forum) that had sediment ppm's that includes hydrocarbons and such that bypass filtration, it seems to me to be a national issue that would logically merit an attack plan to clean up the nation's water supply.

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2 minutes ago, IAMX said:

That's got me beat, I drink 2-4L of water. 

 

There were a couple "benefits" of Obamacare (pre-existing conditions, preventative care as you mentioned [something I didn't even know], etc.) that could have been passed without the mandate. The mandate is what drove the costs up and hurt those on government benefits. 

 

As for the contaminated water, what's the excuse? It's jurisdictional in some cases (re: Flint), but looking at this link @OriZI believe cited (or it might have been someone else from another forum) that had sediment ppm's that includes hydrocarbons and such that bypass filtration, it seems to me to be a national issue that would logically merit an attack plan to clean up the nation's water supply.

I believe you are referring to the TDS on the zerowater website.

[IAMX 3,055]

5 minutes ago, OriZ said:

I agree. I would say by the time you experience jaundice you've probably had cirrhosis for quite a while and if your bilirubin is sky high(>5) don't expect to live much longer. It's sad really because simple ALT/AST/ALP/Bilirubin/Albumin/Total Protein labs could reveal alot. As I mentioned before, we do a complete blood count, plus all the panels(metabolic, lipid etc) and whatever other tests we can get away with(d3 etc) every 6 months or so. 

That's awesome. I noticed when I gained 15 pounds not only was my liver pissed off (with nearly concerning numbers, elevated) but my HBA1c (3 month blood glucose, very accurate portrayal of eating habits for prior 3 months) was up to 5.3, which isn't far from pre-diabetes (5.7), so I had a standing order done every 3 months for the last year and it's now down to 4.9 which is fantastic. Preventative care like this is priceless and can help you identify a problem early on and fix it. An uncle of mine from Michigan didn't have preventative care done and found himself going to the hospital in the midst of a heart attack.. if he had been getting preventative care done every so and such months (he's retired now so no excuse for people this age) as he was supposed to, this easily could have been prevented.

 

And I haven't even gotten into my (late) youngest sister's 20 year winning battle with leukemia. 

5 minutes ago, OriZ said:

I believe you are referring to the TDS on the zerowater website.

Yep, so that was you. 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

26 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Yes I always sign up to the online portals and if lab results are not there within 2 days I start emailing my doctor. I like looking at them myself and reading them myself as I understand most of them. In Israel they were always released instantly that same day by the lab whereas here I have to wait for doc to review and release which I hate.

That's what I like about the VA as well the results are always there with in 48 hours. So I go over them myself if I see a discrepancy or something I want to learn. 

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4 hours ago, OriZ said:

In Israel they were always released instantly that same day by the lab

This is why I get my labs done in Mexico.