Deaths confirmed after Manchester Arena blast reports

[Dashinka 25,856]

15 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Who would have guessed?, need to go and lay down.

No doubt.  Interesting that they targeted a concert where the vast majority of the audience would be teen and pre-teen girls.

[CaliCat 3,957]

43 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

No doubt.  Interesting that they targeted a concert where the vast majority of the audience would be teen and pre-teen girls.

 

It was the perfect soft target. The arena is connected to the train station, and it makes it harder for the police to set a security perimeter. It's disgusting.

[Transborderwife 4,666]

2 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

It was the perfect soft target. The arena is connected to the train station, and it makes it harder for the police to set a security perimeter. It's disgusting.

Reminds me of Toronto.  union startion is connected to so many things.  If anyone wanted to attack I wouldn't be surprised if it was there.

[CaliCat 3,957]

14 minutes ago, Transborderwife said:

Reminds me of Toronto.  union startion is connected to so many things.  If anyone wanted to attack I wouldn't be surprised if it was there.

 

It's surprising that it happened at all, although some are claiming that the presence of the police is what prevented the bomber from gaining access to the arena. Downtown Manchester has always been under heavy policing, because of the IRA, and the soft targets around the station. 

[bcking 3,157]

1 hour ago, CaliCat said:

 

It was the perfect soft target. The arena is connected to the train station, and it makes it harder for the police to set a security perimeter. It's disgusting.

I'm sure the Manchester Arena hosts other performers that would have had a more mature, but equally large, crowd. I do wonder if the decision to do it at an Ariana Grande Concert, where the average age is going to likely be below 18 (or close to it), was intentional. 

[Boiler 47,478]

Well under 18 according to the UK Media. Youngest dead is 8. Well so far.

 

[yuna628 9,873]

The murderer is a British born citizen.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/

[Boiler 47,478]

Born in Manchester in 1994, the second youngest of four children his parents were Libyan refugees who came to the UK to escape the Gaddafi regime.

His parents were both born in Libya but appear to have emigrated to London before moving to the Fallowfield area of south Manchester where they have lived for at least ten years.

 

Now there is a surprise...

[CaliCat 3,957]

13 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

The murderer is a British born citizen.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/

 

 

So, not a foreign individual. Doesn't fit the preferred narrative. 

[bcking 3,157]

2 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

 

So, not a foreign individual. Doesn't fit the preferred narrative. 

Child of refugees though

[Boiler 47,478]

But none appear to have suspected that Abedi – a slightly withdrawn, devout young man, always respectful to his elders – would become a mass murderer.

“Salman? I’m astonished by this,” one member of Manchester’s Libyan community told the Guardian. “He was such a quiet boy, always very respectful towards me. His brother Ismael is outgoing, but Salman was very quiet. He is such an unlikely person to have done this.”

The brothers worshipped at Didsbury mosque, where their father, who is known as Abu Ismael within the community, is a well-known figure. “He used to do the five and call the adhan. He has an absolutely beautiful voice. And his boys learned the Qur’an by heart.

 

Sounds pretty foreign....

[bcking 3,157]

Just now, Boiler said:

But none appear to have suspected that Abedi – a slightly withdrawn, devout young man, always respectful to his elders – would become a mass murderer.

“Salman? I’m astonished by this,” one member of Manchester’s Libyan community told the Guardian. “He was such a quiet boy, always very respectful towards me. His brother Ismael is outgoing, but Salman was very quiet. He is such an unlikely person to have done this.”

The brothers worshipped at Didsbury mosque, where their father, who is known as Abu Ismael within the community, is a well-known figure. “He used to do the five and call the adhan. He has an absolutely beautiful voice. And his boys learned the Qur’an by heart.

 

Sounds pretty foreign....

In what way? Islam is the second largest religion in the UK. Yes it is still relatively small (Something like 5 percent) but I don't think it's fair to say they are all "pretty foreign".

 

He was born and raised in the UK. He was not a foreigner. Though maybe in Wales anything that isn't white or a sheep is foreign...

[CaliCat 3,957]

4 minutes ago, bcking said:

In what way? Islam is the second largest religion in the UK. Yes it is still relatively small (Something like 5 percent) but I don't think it's fair to say they are all "pretty foreign".

 

He was born and raised in the UK. He was not a foreigner. Though maybe in Wales anything that isn't white or a sheep is foreign...

 

In a very ignorant way. Foreigners bashing foreigners seem to be a recurring theme in this site. Can't imagine why.

Edited May 23, 2017 by CaliCat

[CaliCat 3,957]

6 minutes ago, bcking said:

Child of refugees though

 

Oh, yes.. There is always the straw-grasping approach. LOL

[bcking 3,157]

Just now, CaliCat said:

 

Oh, yes.. There is always the straw-grasping approach. LOL

I'm sure you realize I don't think that is important...just pointing it out because I'm sure it will come up.