President Trump Fires FBI Director James Comey

[CaliCat 3,957]

1 minute ago, Jacque67 said:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/332730-kremlin-releases-photo-of-trump-meeting-with-top-russian

 

who needs the American press when the Kremlin can provide all necessary info?

The American press is all fake news.

 

It's not for nothing they call it "Pravda." It's the source of all things true. LOL.

[Jacque67 7,328]

3 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

So can our so-called president.

As long as he has tic-tacs!!!

[CaliCat 3,957]

I believe this article can help the most challenged to understand why the firing of the FBI director is such a big deal, even if so-called president Trump does it.

 

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/comey-firing-worse-than-watergate-white-house-ethics-expert-w481537

 

Comey Firing 'Worse Than Watergate,' Says Former White House Ethics Lawyer

 

An ethics lawyer who served in George W. Bush's White House is calling on Congress to investigate President Trump's abrupt dismissal on Tuesday of FBI Director James Comey. Richard Painter tells Rolling Stone the surprise move is a clear-cut abuse of power.

"We cannot tolerate this – for the president to be firing people who are investigating him and his campaign and its collusion with the Russians," Painter says. "It's a lot worse than Watergate. Watergate was a third-rate burglary. It was purely domestic in nature. This situation involves Russian espionage, and we've got to find out who is collaborating."

Trump removed Comey on Tuesday afternoon, acting, the president said in a statement, on the advice of both Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

Painter is not encouraged by Trump's insistence that the decision was based on Sessions' recommendation. "The attorney general was also part of the contacts made by the Trump campaign with Russia. The attorney general lied about that to the Senate at his confirmation hearing," he says.

It's unusual for an FBI director to be summarily fired the way Comey was. (He reportedly learned of his dismissal from a TV screen flashing news of it while addressing bureau employees in Los Angeles.) FBI directors typically serve a 10-year term, and Comey was only confirmed to his position in 2013.

Painter does not believe Trump had grounds for the firing. "The president has the right to do it – legally he can do it – but it's an abuse of power. It's what President Nixon did when he fired Archibald Cox, the Watergate special prosecutor, and Nixon had to go through three attorneys general to do it – he had to fire two attorneys general for refusing to fire Cox," he says.

"This time around the attorney general is [involved] in it himself, and he went along with this and he may have encouraged it, so we have a clear abuse of power."

Painter says that the next step, as it was during Watergate, is for Congress to act – and, possibly, to impeach. "That's what Congress is there for," he says. "I think this has reached the point where the House Judiciary Committee ought to start the process of looking at this presidency and whether there has been a sufficient abuse to justify removing the president."

"I think they need to have a hearing. That's what the House Judiciary Committee did with Nixon, and I think we've reached more than enough incriminating evidence [of] abuse of power that the House Judiciary Committee ought to start the process," he says.

Whether House Republicans will do so is another question. Most, like House Oversight Chair Jason Chaffetz, have shown little appetite for investigating the president. On Tuesday, Chaffetz's Democratic counterpart on the committee, Elijah Cummings, called for immediate hearings to begin and blasted his Republican colleagues, saying in a statement, "There is now a crisis of confidence at the Justice Department, and President Trump is not being held accountable because House Republicans refuse to work with us to do do job."

But at least one GOP member has spoken up: Rep. Justin Amash said on Twitter that his staff was reviewing legislation to establish an independent commission on Russia.

"We'll see what happens," Painter says. "I don't think the voters are going to tolerate it. I think that Republicans in Congress need to think about whether they want to go down with the ship, with Trump, participating in a White House cover-up here, or whether they want to restrain abuse of power by the president." 

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[Jacque67 7,328]

 

 

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[The Nature Boy 7,659]

28 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

apparently we should be focusing on obama, hilary, benghazi..but trump/russia is a dead horse. 

With you new found understanding and the wider tolerances on the MOR club. a pledge card may be in your future 

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

Looks like Trump just did what Obama should have done months ago, everyone wanted Comey gone so why all the fuss? 

 

If there's a conspiracy it will come out eventually, better to have Comey gone and someone more comptetant in the job unless you want a rigged conclusion just like Clinton. 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Just now, Mr&Mrs G. said:

Looks like Trump just did what Obama should have done months ago, everyone wanted Comey gone so why all the fuss? 

 

If there's a conspiracy it will come out eventually, better to have Comey gone and someone more comptetant in the job unless you want a rigged conclusion just like Clinton. 

Because anything Trump does makes the MDL vibrate 

[CaliCat 3,957]

Just now, Nature Boy Flair said:

Because anything Trump does makes the MDL vibrate 

 

But the problem is the MDRs can find an excuse for the firing. 

 

Dont you find it strange and unethical,  that the so-called president fired the man in charge of investigating him?

 

A better way to understand is to imagine Obama had fired him soon after he released Hillary's emails. 

[CaliCat 3,957]

3 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

Looks like Trump just did what Obama should have done months ago, everyone wanted Comey gone so why all the fuss? 

 

If there's a conspiracy it will come out eventually, better to have Comey gone and someone more comptetant in the job unless you want a rigged conclusion just like Clinton. 

 

The difference it that he did it now, while he is under investigation. 

 

An ethics lawyer who served in George W. Bush's White House is calling on Congress to investigate President Trump's abrupt dismissal on Tuesday of FBI Director James Comey. Richard Painter tells Rolling Stone the surprise move is a clear-cut abuse of power.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Just now, CaliCat said:

 

But the problem is the MDRs can find an excuse for the firing. 

 

Dont you find it strange and unethical,  that the so-called president fired the man in charge of investigating him?

 

A better way to understand is to imagine Obama had fired him soon after he released Hillary's emails. 

But was not the MDL screaming for his a very short time ago 

[CaliCat 3,957]

4 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

But was not the MDL screaming for his a very short time ago 

 

Would it have been a breach of ethics then as it is now?

 

imagine Obama had fired him soon after he released Hillary's emails. 

 

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[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

Just now, CaliCat said:

 

The difference it that he did it now, while he is under investigation. 

 

An ethics lawyer who served in George W. Bush's White House is calling on Congress to investigate President Trump's abrupt dismissal on Tuesday of FBI Director James Comey. Richard Painter tells Rolling Stone the surprise move is a clear-cut abuse of power.

But did you not care that Obama let Comey slide over the Clinton email investigation? The woman was guilty as sin but she got a pass, a blind man would have found the evidence quicker than Comey.  It would have been easier and a more worthy sacking if Obama had fired him. 

 

If Trump was in the wrong he will get impeached but it doesn't take away from the fact that Comey should have been gone long ago..

[smilesammich 10,727]

12 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

With you new found understanding and the wider tolerances on the MOR club. a pledge card may be in your future 

new found? 

[jg121783 3,921]

5 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

The difference it that he did it now, while he is under investigation. 

 

An ethics lawyer who served in George W. Bush's White House is calling on Congress to investigate President Trump's abrupt dismissal on Tuesday of FBI Director James Comey. Richard Painter tells Rolling Stone the surprise move is a clear-cut abuse of power.

I read the underlined part and didn't read any further because the George W Bush White House had no ethics which means this lawyer wasn't doing his job. I would hardly call him an authority on White House ethics. I bet he was one of the lawyers telling W that torture is lawful and ethical.

[CaliCat 3,957]

2 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

But did you not care that Obama let Comey slide over the Clinton email investigation? The woman was guilty as sin but she got a pass, a blind man would have found the evidence quicker than Comey.  It would have been easier and a more worthy sacking if Obama had fired him. 

 

If Trump was in the wrong he will get impeached but it doesn't take away from the fact that Comey should have been gone long ago..

 

Then Trump should have fired him when he took office. 

 

Don't you think the timing makes it look very bad on Trump? He just fired the man in charge of investigating him.  How would that have gone down in your country? I presume there is a set of ethics in your government as well.