Trump says 100-day marker is ‘ridiculous.’ But he’s scrambling to show progress by then on taxes, health care.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

4 minutes ago, IAMX said:

How's it working for you? 

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

1 hour ago, CaliCat said:

 

That's what everyone is seeing. He lied, he was unprepared, and he had no intention of doing anything other than promote his own financial interests. 

You pretty much described every politician trying to get elected in any democratic country across the world. Donald Trump was never a politician so shame on Hilary Clinton for getting caught out before she had won. 

 

Trump v Clinton, Trump wins every time. Shame on either party for not having better options to put to the public. 

[IAMX 3,055]

Just now, Mr&Mrs G. said:

You pretty much described every politician trying to get elected in any democratic country across the world. Donald Trump was never a politician so shame on Hilary Clinton for getting caught out before she had won. 

 

Trump v Clinton, Trump wins every time. Shame on either party for not having better options to put to the public. 

What disappoints me is after voters tried to purge the GOP establishment Ryan and McConnell still wind up the leaders.

 

These people work as well to undermine Trump. Their policies are so much like Obama's which is why GOP voters had an issue with them to begin with and chose Trump out of the handful of establishment cronies. 

[CaliCat 3,957]

9 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

You pretty much described every politician trying to get elected in any democratic country across the world. Donald Trump was never a politician so shame on Hilary Clinton for getting caught out before she had won. 

 

Trump v Clinton, Trump wins every time. Shame on either party for not having better options to put to the public. 

 

It explains the wave of buyer's remorse we're seeing from those who voted for Trump, believing he'd be any different. What a con!

[ready4ONE 5,400]

1 hour ago, IAMX said:

Is this phenomenon the engine that drives good Trumpets' to continue believing 'most' people would support Donald Trump if they would just realize the joy and inner peace found when alternative facts replace the actual fact that Donald Trump is arguably the worst ever to get the job of President, his only real accomplishment during his first 100 days in office?

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

52 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

It explains the wave of buyer's remorse we're seeing from those who voted for Trump, believing he'd be any different. What a con!

The other thread says 98% are happy and wouldn't change their vote. Seems more like a trickle than a wave of buyers remorse.

 

[IAMX 3,055]

32 minutes ago, ready4ONE said:

Is this phenomenon the engine that drives good Trumpets' to continue believing 'most' people would support Donald Trump if they would just realize the joy and inner peace found when alternative facts replace the actual fact that Donald Trump is arguably the worst ever to get the job of President, his only real accomplishment during his first 100 days in office?

 love the mental gymnastics.

[IAMX 3,055]

14 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

The other thread says 98% are happy and wouldn't change their vote. Seems more like a trickle than a wave of buyers remorse.

 

The left are dying to have something go their way, hence the overt acts of desperation in making it seem like there's this consensus of people that agree with them, when in fact it's just remnants of lefties still upset about the election. And this is a political wing that tries to market themselves of "logic", "reason", and "science'. About as much an oxymoron as it gets.

[CaliCat 3,957]

1 hour ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

The other thread says 98% are happy and wouldn't change their vote. Seems more like a trickle than a wave of buyers remorse.

 

 

 

Only 2% will admit to it, and barely 100 days into the administration. 

[CaliCat 3,957]

2 hours ago, ready4ONE said:

Is this phenomenon the engine that drives good Trumpets' to continue believing 'most' people would support Donald Trump if they would just realize the joy and inner peace found when alternative facts replace the actual fact that Donald Trump is arguably the worst ever to get the job of President, his only real accomplishment during his first 100 days in office?

 

In an alternate facts reality, this false-consensus effect means the so-called president fulfilled every promise he made for his first 100 days.

[Inikamoze 86]

It's too early to start with worst ever president talk (he's giving it a good run though).

We can all look back at these forums in a few years time and either one side of the aisle will be proven correct or the other. Of course there is a third outcome which is a combination of wins and losses which will continue the arguement on.

 

Time will tell, I personally think there will be enough evidence to prove convincingly one way or the other that will leave little doubt to his effectiveness as that's what truly counts overall. How he changes our lives, socially,economically etc.

 

To me there is no doubt that he is the worst personality  / least qualified of the modern era. You don't have to like what he says,acts,lies and all the other negatives attached to him. We will all need to take note of the achievements as he will have his own biography distorting the truth of all the winning he has experienced since day one.

 

Out for debate is his true leadership qualities nit the Ines people perceive him to have as he works more on threats currently and causing anxiety amongst his close followers by moving / sacking individuals so that they confirm to his way of thinking (more autocratic ). He's sacked people in less than 3 months of them being in a job he put them into (nit the greatest of recruiters eh). Jury is still out on him!

 

Then there is his fabled negotiation skilks, abjectly missing so far.

 

this can all turn around should the lies, misinformation and tangible results are given to the public. If he truly is a servant of the country and not to just his support base then nobody can have complaints on the results if it benefits us all.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

2 hours ago, IAMX said:

 love the mental gymnastics.

Thus you support believing in the alternative facts that say Donald Trump is doing a fine job and is really a very nice guy with a big heart?

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

17 hours ago, Inikamoze said:

It's too early to start with worst ever president talk (he's giving it a good run though).

We can all look back at these forums in a few years time and either one side of the aisle will be proven correct or the other. Of course there is a third outcome which is a combination of wins and losses which will continue the arguement on.

 

Time will tell, I personally think there will be enough evidence to prove convincingly one way or the other that will leave little doubt to his effectiveness as that's what truly counts overall. How he changes our lives, socially,economically etc.

 

To me there is no doubt that he is the worst personality  / least qualified of the modern era. You don't have to like what he says,acts,lies and all the other negatives attached to him. We will all need to take note of the achievements as he will have his own biography distorting the truth of all the winning he has experienced since day one.

 

Out for debate is his true leadership qualities nit the Ines people perceive him to have as he works more on threats currently and causing anxiety amongst his close followers by moving / sacking individuals so that they confirm to his way of thinking (more autocratic ). He's sacked people in less than 3 months of them being in a job he put them into (nit the greatest of recruiters eh). Jury is still out on him!

 

Then there is his fabled negotiation skilks, abjectly missing so far.

 

this can all turn around should the lies, misinformation and tangible results are given to the public. If he truly is a servant of the country and not to just his support base then nobody can have complaints on the results if it benefits us all.

This is a well thought out, balanced  and fair argument that brings deeper understanding to all that choose to listen to it.  Too bad you wasted your breath by posting it in CEHEST.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Article by R.R.
Trump's failure to accomplish little or any of his agenda during his first 100 days is striking. But I think it also important to focus on the vast harm he has done in this comparatively short time -- especially his degradation of the presidency.

From early in the Republic, we have looked at the office of the presidency as a focal point for the nation's values. Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and his Teddy's fifth cousin, Franklin, are studied by school children as both exemplars of what it means to be president and of the moral authority of the presidency. It is not merely what they accomplished, but how they did it; not just their policies but their dedication to democratic institutions.

True, many of our presidents have fallen short of those ideals. But the disappointment engendered by their failures is indicative to the high standard we come to expect from our presidents and the value we place on the office of they hold.

But not until Trump has the moral authority of that office disappeared.

I'm old enough to recall when John F. Kennedy invited the world's great artists, writers, and philosophers to dine at the White House. The nation felt ennobled. Donald Trump invites Sarah Palin and Ted Nugent, who once called President Obama a "mongrel," and we feel sullied.

But it has not been just Trump's vulgarity.

There have also been Trump's lies -- blatant, continuous, and unsubstantiated even after the lack of evidence has been pointed out repeatedly. They are not just ordinary lies but lies that deepen Americans' suspicion of one another and undermine our confidence in our system of government -- such as his repeated contention that "three to five million" people voted illegally in the last election, or that Obama spied on Trump during the campaign.

Prior presidents have embellished the truth or, occasionally, lied about a particular important thing, such as the existence of weapons of mass destruction. But before Trump we have never before had a president who chronically lies, whose lies have become an integral part of his presidency even in his first 100 days.

There has also been Trump's vast family business, from which he continues to benefit even though the decisions he makes in office affect those earnings, and foreign governments cater to him to curry favor. He shrugs off such conflicts -- even refusing to release his tax returns, even inviting his daughter and son-in-law, each with their own businesses and conflicts of interest, to join him at the highest reaches of the White House.

Some presidents have profited from their presidencies after they leave office through large speaking fees. But never before Trump have we had a president for whom conflicts of financial interest during his presidency are flagrant yet ignored.

The first 100 days has also been marked by Trump's divisiveness -- turning Americans against each other, legitimizing hatefulness toward Mexican-Americans and Muslim-Americans and African-Americans, fueling violence between his supporters and his opponents.

We have had divisive elections before. But after them, other presidents have sought to bring us together. Even after the horrors of the Civil War, Lincoln famously asked us to welcome one another back without malice. Trump encourages warring camps -- calling his opponents "enemies," and staging rallies only for his bedrock supporters.

There has also been Trump's necessary cruelty -- toward refugees, undocumented immigrants, and the poor among us. He has issued a budget that would deeply harm the least advantaged Americans, and supported repeal of the Affordable Care Act that would also hurt those most in need. He has refused asylum to refugees at a time when the world faces the largest refugee crisis since World War II, and unleashed immigration enforcers on 11 million people residing in America, many of whom have been productive members of their communities for years. He has even deported people who have been here since childhood and know know no other nation.

Other presidents have on occasion been cruel. But Trump has evinced a cruelty that defies reason, one that is utterly unnecessary.

There has been Trump's affect on the rest of the world -- legitimizing crude nationalism and hateful xenophobia, as evinced by France's Marine Le Pen, encouraging dictators and authoritarians, such as Turkey's Erdogan, while confusing our allies and friends.

Finally, there is Donald Trump himself -- who in the first 100 days as president has shown himself to be narcissistic, xenophobic, paranoid, vindictive, and thin-skinned; who takes credit for the work of others and blames others for his own failings; who lashes out at the press and journalists when they criticize him, and who demonizes judges who disagree with him.

We have before had presidents such as Richard Nixon whose personality defects harmed their presidencies and tainted the office of the president. But Donald Trump is in a different league altogether. He exhibits the opposite of every civic virtue ever encouraged in our school rooms, town halls, and churches.

The first 100 days is an artificial landmark for presidents. But it offers an opportunity to pause and assess their accomplishments.

Too often, though, we think in the narrow gauge of policies and legislation. With Trump, it's important to think more broadly. Among the biggest legacies of his first 100 days is his degrading of the moral authority of the office of the president, and, thereby, of America.

[IAMX 3,055]

18 hours ago, ready4ONE said:

Thus you support believing in the alternative facts that say Donald Trump is doing a fine job and is really a very nice guy with a big heart?

That's the only alternative is it? Must suck to live in that world.