What Devin Nunes Knows Team Obama was spying broadly on the incoming administration.

[Dashinka 25,856]

This is an opinion piece, but it does make a lot of sense.  Based on what the former Deputy Secretary of Defense said in her spot on television, it does seem that the Obama Administration was doing a little spying and leaking.

 

 

 

California Rep. Adam Schiff may not offer much by way of substance, but give him marks for political flimflam. The ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee was so successful at ginning up fake outrage over his Republican counterpart that he successfully buried this week’s only real (and bombshell) news.

Mr. Schiff and fellow Democrats spent this week accusing Chairman Devin Nunes of carrying water for President Trump, undermining the committee’s Russia investigation, and hiding information. The press dutifully regurgitated the outrage, as well as Mr. Schiff’s calls for Mr. Nunes to recuse himself from the investigation into possible Russian electoral meddling.

All this engineered drama served to deep-six the important information Americans urgently deserve to know. Mr. Nunes has said he has seen proof that the Obama White House surveilled the incoming administration—on subjects that had nothing to do with Russia—and that it further unmasked (identified by name) transition officials. This is goes far beyond a mere scandal. It’s a potential crime.

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We’ve known since early February that a call by former national security adviser Mike Flynn to the Russian ambassador was monitored by U.S. intelligence. There’s nothing improper in tapping foreign officials. But it was improper that Mr. Flynn’s name was revealed and leaked to the press, along with the substance of his conversation. The media nonetheless excused all this by claiming one piece of Mr. Flynn’s conversation (sanctions) was relevant to the continuing investigation into Trump-Russia ties.

 

Around the same time, Mr. Nunes’s own intelligence sources informed him that documents showed further collection of information about, and unmasking of, Trump transition officials. These documents aren’t easily obtainable, since they aren’t the “finished” intelligence products that Congress gets to see. Nonetheless, for weeks Mr. Nunes has been demanding intelligence agencies turn over said documents—with no luck, so far.

Mr. Nunes earlier this week got his own source to show him a treasure trove of documents at a secure facility. Here are the relevant details:

First, there were dozens of documents with information about Trump officials. Second, the information these documents contained was not related to Russia. Third, while many reports did “mask” identities (referring, for instance, to “U.S. Person 1 or 2”) they were written in ways that made clear which Trump officials were being discussed. Fourth, in at least one instance, a Trump official other than Mr. Flynn was outright unmasked. Finally, these documents were circulated at the highest levels of government.

 

To sum up, Team Obama was spying broadly on the incoming administration.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-devin-nunes-knows-1490914396

[CaliCat 3,957]

So, Flynn was fired for no reason. Trump acted impulsively, and had no motive to fire him. Another win! 

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Incidental intelligence gathering seems to have picked up on Team Trumps' Russian ties. It's the best obfuscation available for what appears to be the most corrupt and inept, to say nothing of heartless, Administration (Donald Trumps) this Nation has ever seen.

[IAMX 3,055]

I honestly think there's more than one issue at hand.

 

- For one, there's no Trump-Russia connections. Doing business with Russia, or having someone in your cabinet that at one point in their life did business with Russia, or flew to Russia at some time in their life, or met with a rich guy in Russia, or met with someone in the Russian government, doesn't mean whatsoever that Trump has Russia connections. This is retarded.

 

- Nextly, I think it's clear that these intelligence agencies need to be reeled in a bit. They seem to operate as their own entity that's practically outside the scope of executive authority, except they are subservient to the executive, by law. If I was Trump I'd drastically cut and dice up the NSA and CIA. Given what we've seen about how they act though that could spell another JFK. And people thought Ron Paul wanting to audit the Fed was rebellious.. this makes the Fed issue seem petty.

 

Way too many secrets in the federal government, way too little oversight of these intelligence agencies. They need to be knocked down a few notches.

[Dashinka 25,856]

3 hours ago, CaliCat said:

So, Flynn was fired for no reason. Trump acted impulsively, and had no motive to fire him. Another win! 

I think it was very clear why Flynn was fired.  He made the Vice Boss look bad.  I know this is hard for someone on the Left to understand, but Flynn was an "At Will" employee.

[CaliCat 3,957]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

I think it was very clear why Flynn was fired.  He made the Vice Boss look bad.  I know this is hard for someone on the Left to understand, but Flynn was an "At Will" employee.

 

Shows some inconsistencies. Kellyanne De Vil also makes the boss look bad and she's still around. Same goes for Spicer. I think we will know what Flynn knows once he starts blowing his whistle. 

[Dashinka 25,856]

1 hour ago, ready4ONE said:

Incidental intelligence gathering seems to have picked up on Team Trumps' Russian ties. It's the best obfuscation available for what appears to be the most corrupt and inept, to say nothing of heartless, Administration (Donald Trumps) this Nation has ever seen.

So you are talking about the Obama Administration?  Hmm, weaponizing the IRS, having his EPA destroy a complete industry, and now spying on his opponents.  Go back and listen to what Farkas said. 

Edited March 31, 2017 by Bill & Katya

[Dashinka 25,856]

3 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

Shows some inconsistencies. Kellyanne De Vil also makes the boss look bad and she's still around. Same goes for Spicer. I think we will know what Flynn knows once he starts blowing his whistle. 

Yes, the Left is all giddy about this.  I think Flynn will do an Ollie North, or Lois Lerner which is why he is probably asking for immunity to avoid the Left trying to get him for supposed lying (in their minds).

Edited March 31, 2017 by Bill & Katya

[IAMX 3,055]

Just now, CaliCat said:

 

Shows some inconsistencies. Kellyanne De Vil also makes the boss look bad and she's still around. Same goes for Spicer. I think we will know what Flynn knows once he starts blowing his whistle. 

- Helps Trump get elected

- Gets rewarded with WH position

- "makes boss look bad"

 

[CaliCat 3,957]

1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

Yes, the Left is all giddy about this.  I think Flynn will do an Ollie North, or Lois Lerner which is why he is probably asking for immunity to avoid the Left trying to get him for supposed lying (in their minds).

 

We'll see when he starts talking. Let's hope nothing bad happens to him until then. 

[IAMX 3,055]

3 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Yes, the Left is all giddy about this.  I think Flynn will do an Ollie North, or Lois Lerner which is why he is probably asking for immunity to avoid the Left trying to get him for supposed lying (in their minds).

Well, the left are in full grasp-at-straws mode, so they are praying with a mouthful of dirt that this Flynn thing amounts to anything.

 

I won't spoil the surprise for them.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

I think it was very clear why Flynn was fired.  He made the Vice Boss look bad.  I know this is hard for someone on the Left to understand, but Flynn was an "At Will" employee.

He lied

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

This is about the third thread in four days running the counter narrative that Obama was spying on Trump. 

[smilesammich 10,727]

33 minutes ago, ccneat said:

He lied

yeah he did. lock him up!

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

yeah he did. lock him up!