Trump Seeks Inquiry Into Unproved Allegations That Obama Tapped His Phones

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

32 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Sure, let's give Holocaust deniers the same amount of air time. How possibly could that be a bad idea?

Does the idea of people making up Thier own minds scare you.

[OriZ 3,165]

Just now, Nature Boy Flair said:

Does the idea of people making up Thier own minds scare you.

I don't understand how people can claim they listen to both sides when time and time again they prove the opposite. I firmly believe in truly listening to both sides. That means I see things from the perspective of both Israel and the Palestinians, but form my own opinion. This means I have the ability to see both sides of the coin with single payer, but ultimately come to my own conclusions. That means I consistently read liberal and conservative sources, equally. As some here may know, one of my favorite weekly market commentaries are written by John Hussman whose mentor is Jimmy Carter. In the end you can't agree with both sides but broadening your horizons is not a bad thing. I have Mein Kampf in my house, sitting right next to "The Essential Zohar"(awesome book, btw). 

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[The Nature Boy 7,659]

3 minutes ago, OriZ said:

I don't understand how people can claim they listen to both sides when time and time again they prove the opposite. I firmly believe in truly listening to both sides. That means I see things from the perspective of both Israel and the Palestinians, but form my own opinion. This means I have the ability to see both sides of the coin with single payer, but ultimately come to my own conclusions. That means I consistently read liberal and conservative sources, equally. As some here may know, one of my favorite weekly market commentaries are written by John Hussman whose mentor is Jimmy Carter. In the end you can't agree with both sides but broadening your horizons is not a bad thing. I have Mein Kampf in my house, sitting right next to "The Essential Zohar"(awesome book, btw). 

Agree 109% I watch Real Time. I find Bill entertaining, thought provoking.  Wrong a good bit but other times nail it 

[Póg mo 1,749]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Does the idea of people making up Thier own minds scare you.

No, I have no problem with people making their own minds up. My problem is with people who have an agenda, using fake facts to push a view point, knowing full well, that they have no case.  

[Póg mo 1,749]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Does the idea of people making up Thier own minds scare you.

Does thinking for yourself, scare you?

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

2 hours ago, OriZ said:

I don't understand how people can claim they listen to both sides when time and time again they prove the opposite. I firmly believe in truly listening to both sides. That means I see things from the perspective of both Israel and the Palestinians, but form my own opinion. This means I have the ability to see both sides of the coin with single payer, but ultimately come to my own conclusions. That means I consistently read liberal and conservative sources, equally. As some here may know, one of my favorite weekly market commentaries are written by John Hussman whose mentor is Jimmy Carter. In the end you can't agree with both sides but broadening your horizons is not a bad thing. I have Mein Kampf in my house, sitting right next to "The Essential Zohar"(awesome book, btw). 

You say "both sides" like it is some sort of balance scale:  on one hand 6 million Jews were exterminated in Europe on the other hand Trump has read Mein Kampf so maybe I should give it a go.     This is a fallacy.

[OriZ 3,165]

55 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

No, I have no problem with people making their own minds up. My problem is with people who have an agenda, using fake facts to push a view point, knowing full well, that they have no case.  

So wouldn't you love the opportunity for you or whomever you side with to prove their case wrong? That is, if you have a valid argument. Again, nothing to fear.

[OriZ 3,165]

3 minutes ago, ccneat said:

You say "both sides" like it is some sort of balance scale:  on one hand 6 million Jews were exterminated in Europe on the other hand Trump has read Mein Kampf so maybe I should give it a go.     This is a fallacy.

Huh? What does Trump have to do with this? I read it because I wanted to. Geeze.

 

Because I'm not afraid of getting into other people's minds and thoughts, you'd be surprised how much you learn, whether you agree with them or not.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

Just now, OriZ said:

Huh? What does Trump have to do with this? I read it because I wanted to. Geeze.

 

Because I'm not afraid of getting into other people's minds and thoughts, you'd be surprised how much you learn, whether you agree with them or not.

So what did you learn from Mein Kampf?

[OriZ 3,165]

1 minute ago, ccneat said:

So what did you learn from Mein Kampf?

That is a silly question. I suggest you read it if you want to try and understand other people's thought process even those who aren't on "your side". There's nothing to fear, it's actually quite refreshing. BTW I've had the book for almost a decade now, why you guys have to bring Trump into everything I'm not sure. I also suggest you read the essential zohar, the two go better together than you might think when trying to make sense of this world.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

Just now, OriZ said:

That is a silly question. I suggest you read it if you want to try and understand other people's thought process even those who aren't on "your side". There's nothing to fear, it's actually quite refreshing. BTW I've had the book for almost a decade now, why you guys have to bring Trump into everything I'm not sure. I also suggest you read the essential zohar, the two go better together than you might think when trying to make sense of this world.

it may be silly..but you did not answer it?

[OriZ 3,165]

2 minutes ago, ccneat said:

it may be silly..but you did not answer it?

Because I don't have three weeks to write you an essay and you're obviously not really interested or you would have read it yourself. You also didn't answer why you keep bringing Trump into everything so I guess we're even.

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[Amica Nostra 4,803]

Just now, OriZ said:

Because I don't have three weeks to write you an essay and you're obviously not really interested or you would have read it yourself.

I have no interest in reading Mein Kampf 

[OriZ 3,165]

Just now, ccneat said:

I have no interest in reading Mein Kampf 

I had no idea.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

9 minutes ago, OriZ said:

I had no idea.

 

The Trump connection to Mein Kampf has been documented and is in his divorce court records.  I find it strange that modern folk seek out Hitler as some sort of wisdom that needs to be put on a level scale with other philosophies.

 

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/explaining-hitler-author-breaks-silence-trump-uses-mein-kampf-playbook-to-normalize-tyranny/